Paco, Paco, Paco

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Did you really call him ‘Warren Branch’? And you wonder…

Bautista looks worse than Kovacs and King Kamali (ifbb kamali, not npc) combined.

Stop trolling. [/quote]

Oh dear GOD, I made one fucking mistake in the man’s name after talking about him for about 7 years. Yes, I clearly don’t know shit about him.

Dude, no one needs you working as the police around here. You can stop pretending now.[/quote]

I posted one line off topic (in 3 posts) to the point of the thread and THATS the one you harp on. If youre so secure with your knowledge why do you even acknowledge it?

You wonder why your threads get derailed and turn into polluted messes. Youre so unbelievably defensive about everything and force confrontation.

It happens with virtually every post you make but someone everyone else is at fault.

Im not working as the police. Im calling your crazy ass out when you get bored and start e-fights.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:

[quote]MEYMZ wrote:

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:
Really needs to bring up his lats and chest.

Lacks back width.

great limbs, poor frame[/quote]

his failure in lat width is mainly from structural problems, his clavicles aren’t that wide. It’s more difficult to notice when someone is that muscular, but he’ll never have a V-taper like other pros. Sum his waist to that.

I don’t really like to talk about pros like that and I don’t think we even should, we’re lucky if ONE person in this thread get to where Francisco is.[/quote]

LOL

MEYMZ quoted my post, responded to it and then said we should not talk about pro’s like that as if I was being overly critical of his physique.

Professor X quoted both our posts and was in agreement with MEYMZ.

I thought they were talking about my post maybe they were not.

Since three different people are confused I am assuming I went full retard so mods delete any/all my posts.
[/quote]

Not a problem. Moving on.

Once again, why do we act like Paco is an outcast in bodybuilding (I mean, you have to admit he does get shit on more than just about anyone else who is well known aside from King Kamali)?

Yeah, Branch is slightly more esthetic, but not enough for Paco to get constant shit and for Branch to get constant praise.

I mean, Rhul is about the least esthetic person on stage ever and he still has a solid fan base.[/quote]

It’s a good question, and IMO I think you are vastly minimizing the aesthetic differences between BW and PB. .[/quote]

Of course he is. He cant do anything else at this point, though. If he even conceded an inch of a statement that’s already been made the forum would collapse on itself.

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the guy gets very muscular density&size on a “normal” frame,
remind me (in some ways)a mix of Rich Gaspari,Andreas Challing and Ben Grimm on somatonorm/insulin ,

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8716/richgaspari2.jpg

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/882/n3377170374817576075158.jpg

yes, surely he doesn’t get the shape&line of Wheeler or Benfatto but -at the end of the day- everyone works with the frame given by God,and yes, he gets my respect because have worked hard,pushing him beyond the limits,spent many bucks for big qty of drugs.
and i wish him good success on stage but he is not the kind of body I like (etero way) :slight_smile:

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Did you really call him ‘Warren Branch’? And you wonder…

Bautista looks worse than Kovacs and King Kamali (ifbb kamali, not npc) combined.

Stop trolling. [/quote]

Oh dear GOD, I made one fucking mistake in the man’s name after talking about him for about 7 years. Yes, I clearly don’t know shit about him.

Dude, no one needs you working as the police around here. You can stop pretending now.[/quote]

I posted one line off topic (in 3 posts) to the point of the thread and THATS the one you harp on. If youre so secure with your knowledge why do you even acknowledge it?

You wonder why your threads get derailed and turn into polluted messes. Youre so unbelievably defensive about everything and force confrontation.

It happens with virtually every post you make but someone everyone else is at fault.

Im not working as the police. Im calling your crazy ass out when you get bored and start e-fights. [/quote]

I don’t need you calling me out and right now, the only one trolling anything is YOU. Stay on topic or GTFO. Your opinion is losing an epic amount of respect by the day.

back to the topic.

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Paco’s physique is impressive in the same way that if you take a gigantic shit it is impressive. I respect the hard work that went into it, but it’s not nice to look at.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:

[quote]MEYMZ wrote:

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:
Really needs to bring up his lats and chest.

Lacks back width.

great limbs, poor frame[/quote]

his failure in lat width is mainly from structural problems, his clavicles aren’t that wide. It’s more difficult to notice when someone is that muscular, but he’ll never have a V-taper like other pros. Sum his waist to that.

I don’t really like to talk about pros like that and I don’t think we even should, we’re lucky if ONE person in this thread get to where Francisco is.[/quote]

LOL

MEYMZ quoted my post, responded to it and then said we should not talk about pro’s like that as if I was being overly critical of his physique.

Professor X quoted both our posts and was in agreement with MEYMZ.

I thought they were talking about my post maybe they were not.

Since three different people are confused I am assuming I went full retard so mods delete any/all my posts.
[/quote]

Not a problem. Moving on.

Once again, why do we act like Paco is an outcast in bodybuilding (I mean, you have to admit he does get shit on more than just about anyone else who is well known aside from King Kamali)?

Yeah, Branch is slightly more esthetic, but not enough for Paco to get constant shit and for Branch to get constant praise.

I mean, Rhul is about the least esthetic person on stage ever and he still has a solid fan base.[/quote]

It’s a good question, and IMO I think you are vastly minimizing the aesthetic differences between BW and PB. IMO, BW is not aesthetic compared to Phil Heath and Vic Martinez. Also, IMO, PB is not aesthetic compared to anyone on the planet.

He probably wouldn’t have supp endorsements if he didn’t have a fan base, so I’m sure he has some fans, just not on this site, lol.[/quote]

I’m not minimizing the differences because I acknowledge that Branch does look better…just not by enough to get the praise he gets. Branch is no Heath, no Flex, and no Cormier.

I can understand your view of him…and I may even agree, but how is he any different than a uy like Rhul?

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Holy fucking shit.

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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Paco’s physique is impressive in the same way that if you take a gigantic shit it is impressive. I respect the hard work that went into it, but it’s not nice to look at.[/quote]

I’ve taken some pretty impressive shits before that I would be glad to show off.

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Holy fucking shit.[/quote]

It’s incredible. Most people will never see someone who looks like that up close. It is insane how some of these guys look in person. An arm like that makes me look like I just started lifting.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Holy fucking shit.[/quote]

It’s incredible. Most people will never see someone who looks like that up close. It is insane how some of these guys look in person. An arm like that makes me look like I just started lifting.[/quote]

yep, i have somewhere an old pic of me at 17ys old (190lb) shacking the hands with Venturato,Mr Universe,I was shocked,never see forearms so big LOL

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His conditioning is always incredible, and he should’ve got more credit for it at the last Olympia.

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This guy reminds me a lot of Greg Kovacs.

Sure, he is not aesthetic, but people taking shit about him is just wrong.

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Holy fucking shit.[/quote]

Fucking Rediculous!

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Why does Markus Ruhl have such a fan base?

This is why:

Guy has personality, makes you laugh.

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I saw this guy outside of a gym on a Sunday, and I just couldn’t believe it. I felt like a child. From that day on I just think how stupid the 150lb guys who think they’re doing things right because they are “doing it without creatine or that shit” are. I don’t even imagine how it’d be being next to someone like Paco, I would piss myself.

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The fact that someone ‘who follows bodybuilding’ is even putting Bautista and Warren in the same sentance is so far beyond comprehension that the premise of this thread cant be anything else BUT a trolling effort.

Paco Bautista does NOTHING when in comes to placement in shows. Are you saying that the shows are fixed or something? Or that the judges just dont know as much as you do? Seriously, what the hell is going on in this thread.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
The fact that someone ‘who follows bodybuilding’ is even putting Bautista and Warren in the same sentance is so far beyond comprehension that the premise of this thread cant be anything else BUT a trolling effort.

Paco Bautista does NOTHING when in comes to placement in shows. Are you saying that the shows are fixed or something? Or that the judges just dont know as much as you do? Seriously, what the hell is going on in this thread. [/quote]

I’m saying your opinion here does not matter to me and if you keep up with the personal insults instead of moving on if this thread offends you so much, your posts will start getting deleted.

YOU are the troll here. Understand it. Deal with it.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:

[quote]MEYMZ wrote:

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:
Really needs to bring up his lats and chest.

Lacks back width.

great limbs, poor frame[/quote]

his failure in lat width is mainly from structural problems, his clavicles aren’t that wide. It’s more difficult to notice when someone is that muscular, but he’ll never have a V-taper like other pros. Sum his waist to that.

I don’t really like to talk about pros like that and I don’t think we even should, we’re lucky if ONE person in this thread get to where Francisco is.[/quote]

LOL

MEYMZ quoted my post, responded to it and then said we should not talk about pro’s like that as if I was being overly critical of his physique.

Professor X quoted both our posts and was in agreement with MEYMZ.

I thought they were talking about my post maybe they were not.

Since three different people are confused I am assuming I went full retard so mods delete any/all my posts.
[/quote]

Not a problem. Moving on.

Once again, why do we act like Paco is an outcast in bodybuilding (I mean, you have to admit he does get shit on more than just about anyone else who is well known aside from King Kamali)?

Yeah, Branch is slightly more esthetic, but not enough for Paco to get constant shit and for Branch to get constant praise.

I mean, Rhul is about the least esthetic person on stage ever and he still has a solid fan base.[/quote]

It’s a good question, and IMO I think you are vastly minimizing the aesthetic differences between BW and PB. IMO, BW is not aesthetic compared to Phil Heath and Vic Martinez. Also, IMO, PB is not aesthetic compared to anyone on the planet.

He probably wouldn’t have supp endorsements if he didn’t have a fan base, so I’m sure he has some fans, just not on this site, lol.[/quote]

I’m not minimizing the differences because I acknowledge that Branch does look better…just not by enough to get the praise he gets. Branch is no Heath, no Flex, and no Cormier.

I can understand your view of him…and I may even agree, but how is he any different than a uy like Rhul?[/quote]

Well, last I checked Ruhl isn’t winning any shows, either. He’s got more of a fan base because he’s generally a likeable guy and does a pretty good job marketing himself. TBH, I wouldn’t want to look like Ruhl, either.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
Why does Markus Ruhl have such a fan base?

This is why:

Guy has personality, makes you laugh.[/quote]

he is a great, very funny and his most muscular pose outcast ronnie,jay etc.
widest shoulders ever?

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Well, last I checked Ruhl isn’t winning any shows, either. He’s got more of a fan base because he’s generally a likeable guy and does a pretty good job marketing himself. TBH, I wouldn’t want to look like Ruhl, either.[/quote]

I agree…but there is a HUGE difference in the way Rhul is accepted. If Rhul walks out on stage, the whole crowd starts chanting “RHUL!” over and over along with much applause.

I have heard Paco get BOOED at while on stage…which to me is pretty damn disrespectful no matter how you look.