This would be my first cycle is there any oral options to run without using test as a base I didn’t want to jump right in injecting and wanted to see how my body reacted to the use of steroids any help would be appreciated!
Test only bud. Injection.
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The only bad option you have would be to run a compound that can aromatize like dbol. You don’t need a Test base in theory unless you don’t want to feel like shit under suppression and with no exogenous Test to account for that.
Running an oral cycle of Dbol will not be worth it since you’ll lose all the water weight coming off, I suggest you inject Test, in the long run there is no way around the needle if you’re serious about this.
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I figured from all the research I’ve done that test would be the way to go. Not afraid of needles just alittle worried about doing it for the first time had a friend end up in the hospital from injecting but he really had no clue what he was doing
It’s pretty simple. There are plenty of vids demonstrating proper injection technique. First time I injected was in my shoulder.
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How old are you?
I’m 23
Went to the hospital from injecting what? Synthol?
First of all no steroids if u are not training for 4-5 years continuously, secondly ur age matters a lot, thirdly no oral as they are too liver toxic and last if u wanna jump in without listening to all the good…go for test only on ur first cycle so that u know how ur body responds to it.
I won’t say for diet as u are talking abt steroid m sure u know diet should be 100%.
The only thing I fear is loosing all the gains from that cycle when it ends. Peolle say no matter how and wat u do in PCT u’ll loose…then I wonder how many guys i see everyday with gr8 physique.
Which is why I am also a fan of going the blast and cruise route.
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What is that brother? Is it safe for beginners?
It means you’re always on. Cruise is typically a TRT dose. Blasting would be a normal higher dosage cycle. You never come off.
It’s actually the best way to keep your gains long term, but its a commitment to staying on forever.
At age 23 blast and cruise is not for you. Unless you’re planning on competing.
I’m curious , all of the advice for todays man looking to enter the world of AAS is strongly geared toward “test only, test base is a must , test only”.
Now I completely understand that the knowledge and science behind the use of AAS has come leaps and bounds since the 1970s, but I have to ask.
Arnold had an incredible physique, yes yes I understand he had the killer genes to augment the use of AAS but nevertheless, Arnold along with tons of other 1970s golden age bodybuilders had amazing physiques, and from the research that I have done they didn’t use a test base.
Arnold stack was what? Dbol, Primo Deca?
Why wouldn’t that work today?
There’s a difference between “this will work” and “this will work, but with fewer risks”. You can absolutely, positively, 100% make enormous physique-changing gains off of a dbol/primo/deca stack. No debate about that. The question is can you make the same progress with fewer downside risks?
The problem with the Golden Age of Bodybuilding is that we have next to zero information about what those guys went through as far as side effects. Arnold never hosted an AMA on reddit. Frank Zane barely ever posted on a Instagram back then. Mike Mentzer’s Twitter feed in 1978 was total trash. Dude posted almost nothing but Pepe memes. Totally unhelpful. 4/10 would not recommend following.
Today we have more data. We have more users who share experiences and we can look at both the wisdom of crowds and the micro data from individuals. And all that data tell us that testosterone is, for most guys, an essential base for a cycle when you wish to minimize side effects.
So yes, you can certainly get away with running a cycle that is by today’s standards unconventional but that 40 years ago would have been the norm. But in the span of those 40 years we’ve learned a lot and choosing to not incorporate that knowledge into our current environment is something that one does at their own hazard.
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Running test is the safest option because it’s not harsh on the liver like orals. Injecting is easy af. Look up intra muscular injection protocols and follow them and you’re g2g. Have someone help if you’re scared of pinning. Good luck boss!
We also have no idea what they were ACTUALLY taking. They all absolutely have an incentive to downplay how much they took and what they took.
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Yep. And never forget, the old timers are now, well, old. The “get off my lawn” syndrome that affects ~99% of old guys can easily translate to them spinning stories about how, back in their day, all you needed was a good diet and 10mg of dianabol, unlike these youngins today with their trenbolone and tattoos and Instagram.
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