I’m 46, 6’6", 250lbs, 18% bf and have been training for 5 years. What would a good safe oral first cycle look like. Please include suggestions for a PCT.
Scared of needles? After you poke yourself a couple of times, you’ll start to look forward to the injections. You should jump in with both feet.
A good first cycle would be something like:
500mg/wk test enth (wk 1 to 8)
40mg/day dbol (wk 1 to 4-6)
That’s only one shot per week, and very simple.
First of all, an oral cycle would not be suggested for someone your age. If fact, I don’t even suggest oral only cycles. Now when I mention your age it is because you are in the range to be treated for Hormone replacement therapy. Also, the older you get the nicer you want to be to your liver. Although you could benefit a little from orals, my reccomendation for you is to take Testosterone injections twice a week. You would benefit from this much more. Not only that, but you could quite easily get the Testosterone LEGALLY. And there should be no fear of injection because you can use insulin needles.
How would I go about getting the testosterone ‘easily’ and ‘legally’? Through one of those internet diagnosis scenerios?
I should have no fear of an insulin needle injection because they are of short length and small diameter? I’m assuming I would follow the injection protocal for ‘normal’ guage needles? You are saying that all testosterone types can be injected through an insulin needle?
I guess I need to research the aromotization and shut down effects of the testosterone and the appropriate during and PCT.
at age 46 it could be pretty easy to obtain testosterone. try going to your doc and getting blood work done. tell him you feel like you have no energy and strength, losing muscle gaining fat. if your t-levels are low, or your doc is open minded, it shouldnt be a problem.
they are suggesting that you get a script from your doc for hrt. remember many steroids are indeed a “medication”. read the “your doctor your dealer” arcticle written by cy wilson here at t-mag.
My doctor isn’t open minded.
find a doctor who is. ask around. look in the phone book.
"find a doctor who is. ask around. look in the phone book. "
What, are they listed under “open minded doctors”?
Or do they post that they graduated from the Hollywood School of upstairs medicine like Dr. Nick. 
You might look for a listing such as “such and such anti-aging clinic”
These guys are talking to you like your an old man… I am 42 and I would not be a candidate for hrt unless I did find a doc who was open minded. The way I look alone would tip my hand…
I wouldn’t be overconcerned about your liver either at your age unless there are contributary factors. If’n I was in your shoes. I’d look at my diet. Training. See if I could cut out some of the fat on my own. And start to research more about different types of cycles etc. Oral only cycles are not recommended as tren freak suggests. BUT my first cycle was using winny 50mgs a day for 7 weeks, Dbol 50mgs ed for 5 weeks and 4 gr of fina crushed, added to solvent, filtered then added to androsol and sprayed on everyday 7/10 sprays until gone. So I’d do a little more learning, maybe get to know some guys on the boards etc. as you go along you’ll start to figure out how you want to go about it… just my .02
I agree with going for the Testosterone injections but if you can’t get why not just try Mag10?
The chances are that the quantity you get from any HRT regimine will be enough to shut down what production you do have and to raise your energy levels a bit but not enough to have any significant impact on muscle gain. Have you tried Mag10 yet? It is usually strong enough to satisfy all but the most serious of lifters. If you use it, however, your age would suggest you definitely need a recovery agent such as Tribex and possible M. Good luck.
Can someone explain to me the notion of using insulin needles for the injection of testosterone as Tren-Freak has indicated? It’s easier? Safer? Easier to learn? What kind of cycle and PCT would you suggest?
Also at the risk of sounding like a complete idot I don’t know the abbreviation ‘HRT’ regiment.
Thanks…
OK …I found out that the insulin needles are 29 guage 1/2 cc volume and are for subcutaneous (under the skin) administration. Can I inject the testosterone cypionate in this way?
In a two times per week injection scenerio how much per injection? For how long? And with what PCT follow up?
hrt is an acronym for hormone replacement therapy. and the reason tren suggested slin pins is for comfort. this is only an option to you if your body fat is low enough to allow deep muscle injections from a 1/2" pin. more then likely you wont be using these. even for site injections. as an example. i run 12% BF +/-, depending on the time of year. i use 22g 1 1/2" pins for glutes. 25g 1" pins for quads. 25g 5/8" on all other sites.
Thanks
I agree with Tren-Freak! You’re too old(don’t take it personally) for orals - that is if you value your health. If I were you, I would do a shot of sustanon 250 every other week. This should do the trick for you. Also, you would start low and then adjust your dosage according to how you reacted to the testosterone. Always take an anti-estrogen along with the testosterone. Nolvadex at 10mgs per day should do the trick. This last step is imperative if you are to do this safely. I really don’t have any additional information from you as far as what you would like to achieve but I am assuming that you would like to lose a little body fat and get more muscular. Hope this helps, and good luck.