Old guy trying to learn new tricks… so please take it easy on me
About me:
43 yo male looking for moderate increases in strength/stamina at gym + help losing love handles. I work out 6 days a week. I am currently ending my 1st week with no issues so far.
Medical:
-Tested a year ago for low t but doc said I was normal, not smart enough at time to ask for numbers
-Healthy with no issues and NKA
-Sexually active (daily) with no issues
My Plan:
Testonon 250(oil based) 12 wk cycle
- week 1-3 X once a week
- week 4-8 X every 5 days
- week 9-12 X once a week
Clomid 25mg 4wk cycle (to jump start T levels after cycle)
- week 11-14 X 1 pill once daily
Concerns:
- ED and other sexual side effects
- best way to inject? subcutaneously or muscular? Saw youtube and read about advantages of subcutaneous due to extended release and not needing anything for PCT
- is 4 weeks good enough for PCT with Clomid, what about Nolva?
Read the message boards for weeks and have tried to do my research, but it is a lot to take in. I would really appreciate advice from those who have “been there, done that”.
Thanks,
Oldguy43
Im npt very familiar with testonon…what type of testosterone is that? Being the age that you are maybe you could look into a blast/cruise type thing if you think you are at the age where you should be on TRT…Ill be honest with you though I am not very knowledgable about TRT stuff.
No use of AI was mentioned…have you added that in as well? Also, a lot of people recommend Nolvadex instead of clomid, but I have used clomid in the past and personally like it better than nolvadex. The type of PCT that I have been seeing recommended a lot recently is a Nolvadex/Aromasin PCT. I am currently doing a testosterone enthanate cycle at 750mg a week. Pinning 3x’s per week. I would maybe pin at least twice a week (Mon/Thurs), depending on what type of testosterone you are using.
Like I said though, If you feel that you are at the age where you want to be on TRT, maybe you can look into doing a blast/cruise type thing, and just stay on, occasionally getting blood work done, etc. There are veterans on this board that know a lot more about blast cruise stuff though. I am just sharing what I have read/learned. Good luck with it though!
Cougarpride thanks…
Testonon 250 is basically a different version sustonon 250
haven’t heard of blast/cruise but I will look into it
Definitely not looking to make this permanent.
And trying to keep first cycle simple… (advice from a friend of mine)
Oh, okay! Gotcha gotcha. Yeah like I said man, I dont know enough about that kind of stuff to give you advice on it. Just sharing what I know and have learned through reading haha. Hopefully someone else on here with be able to help you out with it
Pick a dose and stick with it, 500Mg a wk is a good start. IM would be easier in my opinion, you can’t inject too much subq without getting lumps. You WILL still need pct either way, it makes no difference, you’re still shut down. Clomid is fine but may have more minor side effects than nolva would like irritability and moodiness, but there are other factors that could cause that as well so just see how it goes. 4 Weeks is standard pct time. Do some more reading.
I’m 42 with almost the same story. 500 mg every third day worked for me.
Yep a gram a week will work too lol
Oldman43,
There is a TRT forum here if you want to do some research. I also am not familiar with testonon so I can’t speak about dosage. CougarPride’s advice on a blast and cruise is a good one at your age; 47 y.o. myself.
Personally, I prefer IM injections in the glutes with 200 mg Test Cyp. 1x/wk. for a cruise. 200 mg 2x/wk. for my last summer blast. Now 400 mg is far from a big blast but I wanted to start there.
Blood work will help. It is best to have something before you had started so you have a baseline but no big deal. 200 mg puts my T at 600 ng/ dl, 7 days post injection; 1,100 ng/dl on 300 mg/wk.
I don’t take HCG; you may find a difference of opinion here but I have no need for it, TRT has no PCT.
For pinning, draw with a 20 G, switch the needle to 1 1/2 25 G to inject. The draw is quicker and you get a sharp one to inject. For the most part, you won’t feel a thing.