9 times of 10, it seems the guys under 200lbs who offer advice are simply reciting something they read and have absolutely no experience in actually doing it and backing it up.
The dude who made that post was not out of place at all, he obviously realised most of the advice in the bodybuilding section is crap and didn’t want to bother weeding out the good from the bad.
This thread got extra-creepy a few posts up.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
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Off topic, but I just think it seems kinda lazy for someone with a grip that could turn rocks into dust to use straps for hanging leg raises.
From today’s article, Five Deadly Strength Errors
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Mistake #1: Listening to weak people.
No, we’re not judging character. But most of the guys who are teaching other guys how to get strong are weak as kittens, and that just ain’t right. Sure, they may know what proper form is, how to manipulate a diet, or how to be fit, but it’s not the same as knowing how to create a proper program with the purpose of developing maximal strength.
There’s simply too much that must be learned if you want to get someone strong, and I don’t think you can learn it all without doing a lot of trial and error on yourself. If a coach won’t share at least some of their personal records with you, it should be a warning sign. Now, I’m not saying every coach must be Ed Coan but they should at least be good at the stuff they’re trying to coach you on.
One of my favorite quotes sums up my feelings nicely:
“Don’t spend much time listening to someone talk about something they have never done.”[/quote]
It just makes sense to me. If your goal is big and strong, then seek out the big and strong.
haha
DING DING DING
There is some truth to this idea, but there is also a bit of elitism also. Butch harmon would get his ass handed to him on the nationwide tour and probably the LPGA, yet the best in the world want HIM to teach them how to play golf.
I’m a 200 Lb guy who looks like he can play some sports, but it doesn’t look like I work out all the time. Know why? Because I don’t! It doesn’t mean I never have, or that I have no idea what I’m doing. And I would put 100 bucks on me writing someone a better program than your average big guy at the gym. Weather it be someone looking to gain mass, get cut, get strong, improve thier performance in a sport. I could pretty much write a good program for all of those scenarios including a newbie program. I could get them started on their diet, as well as some other areas of thier life which they could make improvements which will help them achieve thier goals faster.
I don’t bench 300lbs because I don’t want to. I don’t deadlift over 400 because I don’t want to. I don’t eat 6 meals per day at 6000 calories because I don’t want to. I do workout, but it’s for my own goals of flexibility, some strength, and to stay healthy. It’s good for you to be active but not everyone needs to have a goal of putting up competetive powerlifting numbers or looking like a bodybuilder. I specifically do not want to do either of those things myself, but I sure as hell through my expereinces on this board, playing with weights and movements over the last 10 years in the gym, taking anatomy and physiology classes in college, could help someone else achieve those goals.
So what I say would be a better thing to be worried about, instead of what the person looks like, is if the person sounds like they know what they are talking about. I mean I know it can be confusing, but if you really desire to learn, then you will find out who knows thier shit and who doesn’t. And thier are plenty of big guys who will give you less than optimal advice.
I remember when I was first starting out I was trying to gain some overall size. I was approx 170 Lbs at the time and I wanted to be up at 200. I was doing big compound movements, squats, deads, barbell curls, chins dips, rows, etc… Well this guy who was a good amount bigger than me, he was also probably 45 or so, told me I was doing my movements all wrong. He said you have to ISOLATE each muscle and do it real slow and when you get to the top of every rep, squeeze the muscle extra hard, then lower it as slow as you can so it burns. Now, SOME of these things he said do have a time and a place. But if I were to just blindly follow his advice because he was “bigger” than I was, I probably would have taken longer to reach my goals. Or maybe never have reached them. I would have needed considerably more rest in between sets and excercises and my DOMS would have likley been much worse causing me to have many more days between doing the same bodypart again. Again, he didn’t tell me any of this so I would have burnt out or gotten hurt.
Anyways, I can respect wanting to get info from someone who knows what the hell they are talking about, but seeing as information is stored in the brain, and not in the bicep, it really doesn’t matter what someone looks like, it just matters if thier info is good or not.
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[quote]chimera182 wrote:
polo77j wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
Have you ever heard of the saying those who can, do and those who don’t teach?
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I really hate this BS how can you teach if you cannot DO? But hey I mean I’m just a teacher (Calc and Pre-Calc)