Only Doing Deadlifts, Bench Press and Rows

[quote]TheLifterdude wrote:
Okay so yesterday for breakfast I ate:

Breakfast:
1 large bowl of plain cooked oats with 1 table spoon of honey
2 eggs and 3 shortcut rashes of bacon with almost all fat removed (dont normally have bacon very often)

Snack 1:
Small bowl of Greek Yogurt
handful of almonds
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Your calories look to be ~2500-2800 or so…not enough for most people.

I find it better to actually weigh everything out. A “large bowl” of this or a “handful” of that isn’t saying anything really. Better to know if it’s 50g of this or 100g of that so you know the exact caloric value; this way you know you’re getting enough.

[quote]TheLifterdude wrote:
Okay so yesterday for breakfast I ate…[/quote]
Dude, if that was even 100 grams of protein, I’d be surprised.

Protein is what builds muscle. Nothing else will. Shoot for at least one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, everyday. The easiest way to get there is to make some kind of animal the focus of every plate you eat, while not shying away from carbs or healthy fats.

Make that whey protein, not soy. Processed forms of soy, like in powdered protein, has a bunch of negative effects on guys’ hormones.

Rows are still a basic lift, so if you can find/make a spot for them in your program, that’d be a good call.

Ok thankyou guys I think I know now I have to eat ALOT more food especially meats and eggs etc for protein.

Because I love eating eggs and always are scared I eat to many how many would you recommend I eat each day?

I will also make a trip down to the shop today and pick up some whey protien instead.

[quote]TheLifterdude wrote:
rashes of bacon with almost all fat removed
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reduced fat milk
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reduced fat milk with 1 and 1/2 dessert spoons of soy protien powder added (30 grams of pure protien)
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lean mince
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Why are you avoiding fat?

[quote]TheLifterdude wrote:
Because I love eating eggs and always are scared I eat to many how many would you recommend I eat each day?[/quote]

AnytimeJake has been eating a dozen eggs a day for many many years.

Hungry4More used to eat a dozen eggs raw every day, after his workout. He may still do that.

When I was poorer, I lived pretty much exclusively off rice and eggs, and I’d go through at least 5 dozen eggs a week. Right now I’m eating 6 eggs a day, and working my way back up to at least a dozen a day.

Why are you scared to eat too many?

[quote]TheLifterdude wrote:
Ok thankyou guys I think I know now I have to eat ALOT more food especially meats and eggs etc for protein.

Because I love eating eggs and always are scared I eat to many how many would you recommend I eat each day?
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I eat 6 everyday.

My cholesterol is higher than the doctor thinks is good, but having learned about how the AMA came to the conclusion of appropriate cholesterol level, I really could care less about their recommendations on that now.

Whatever, I’ve been eatting a dozen eggs, and 3 litter’s of milk a day for years, and I’m 40 with good blood workup twice a year. The big queation is why are you worrying about all this shit, why spend all your time worrying about the 10% when yopu haven’t got the 90% in order. Eat as much as you can, Sleep as much as you can, Lift as much as you can, on a solid program, and in 6mths you’ll be bigger and stronger. Someday when your a pro BBer, and your getting ready for a show, then worry about all the details, in the mean time get bigger, by eating and lifting bigger, simple

Okay thanks alot guys I really appreciate all the info and I guess from now on I am just going to try to eat as much wholesome/protien rich food as I can!

The only reason I was worried about the amount of eggs I eat was I have heard from people that 2 a day is heaps otherwise it raises your cholestrol but I now know thats all bullshit so I will start having as many as I can eat for brekky

Lorez, while I am trying to gain as much strength and muscle mass as possible I want to try and stay as lean as possible by not consuming unnecessary bad fats mainly saturated fat however I am making sure I eat plenty of good fat though!

If you aren’t going to squat I would recommend lunges.
Day 1:Deadlift/ OHP
Day 2: lunges/ bench

Pretty similar to some program I saw somewhere but I can’t put my finger on it… :wink:

[quote]TheLifterdude wrote:
I am trying to gain as much strength and muscle mass as possible I want to try and stay as lean as possible by not consuming unnecessary bad fats mainly saturated fat however I am making sure I eat plenty of good fat though! [/quote]
First, wanting to “get huge while staying lean”, especially at your age, is probably the most common cause of unnecessarily slow progress. You totally don’t have to get fat, but trying to keep razor-sharp six pack abs while also trying to build serious muscle is basically like trying to take a vacation in Italy and Brazil at the same time. You’ll have a much better time if you give one of them 100% of your attention, and then spend time with the other some other time.

You’re at the one stage in your life where your natural body chemistry is literally ready, willing, and able to pack on a crapload of lean muscle. Encourage that hormonal scenario with smart training and good eating, and you’ll be golden.

Secondly, saturated fat is almost as misunderstood as cholesterol. There have been tons of articles about it. Some of them are kinda technical and sciencey, but the bottom line is that there are plenty of positive health benefits to “smart” sources of saturated fat (like coconut oil or beef instead of candy bars or ice cream).

Bottom-line is that a young underweight guy like yourself who’s lifting and trying to build muscle has absolutely no reason to avoid high-quality sources of saturated fats. If there’s a pre-existing medical condition, that’s a (slightly) different story.

Well said

Thanks again for the quick replies and yes I am definatley not worried about getting a six pack at this stage but I just wanted to try and stay reasonably lean but I understand I cant have both so Im making gaining weight my priority.

And thats actually really interesting because I always had the mindset that saturated fat should be avoided if possible but good fats were beneficial but now I know otherwise and I guess they are alot better then processed sugars etc.

And Andrew, thanks for your suggestions about lunges and that was my mindset a couple of months ago but since then I have realized how valuable they are in ones training routine.