Well. then, how about one hundred people versus the Chicago Bears?
[quote]E-man wrote:
That picture of the 1,600 pound bear said that it not only ate a hiker the week before and found human remains in its stomach but the hiker also unloaded 4 rounds from a .38 into it before it ate him and the bullets appeared to not have done any harm but minor inflictions. It suggested using no less than a large caliber magnum like a .300 and even that might be too small for a bear that size. So for you that think rocks and kicking will work think again.
For any of you that have ever been in a fight you know the additional adreneline rush that accompanies it. This bear would be so freakin pissed and in such an attack mode that I doubt 300 men could down it. And you are also forgetting the psychological effect you’d get after seeing the first raid of 25 guys get slashed in half with their organs spilling out over the ground.[/quote]
Art Ridzik: Captain Danko, congratulations. You are now the proud owner of the most powerful handgun in the world.
Ivan Danko: Soviet Patparine, nine-point-two milimeter, is world’s most powerful handgun.
Art Ridzik: Oh, come on, everybody knows the .44 Magnum is the big boy on the block. Why do you think Dirty Harry uses it?
Ivan Danko: Who is Dirty Harry?
In Russia early 90’s they showed ‘BJ and the Bear’. Not having seen it, I thought it was about felatio on large omnivores.
[quote]JG wrote:
As for people being afraid, have you ever seen people in a riot setting with a large crowd? They do not seem very cowardly… A large group of rowdy men would give you courage and a lot of adrenaline.
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That will change real quick once people start getting mangled. Rioters also aren’t facing down 1000 lbs. of muscle, teeth, and claws. Let someone with an Ak-47 start firing into that crowd of rioters and see how brave they stay.
The cooperation and cool-headedness this situation would require to survive is very rare in untrained people.
[quote]ExNole wrote:
But apparently not killed in one blow, which was predicted by a lot of people.
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Really? He sure as Hell wasn’t gonna be doing anything, and he likely would have bled to death if not for the other people there.
[quote]Kratos wrote:
ExNole wrote:
But apparently not killed in one blow, which was predicted by a lot of people.
Really? He sure as Hell wasn’t gonna be doing anything, and he likely would have bled to death if not for the other people there. [/quote]
There are ninety-nine other people there, each with clothes. A man will not bleed to death. His team could just, rip their clothes and use it to stop bleeding, like in those action movies.
This is kinda dumb cause everyone keeps changin the environment and circumstances, i’d say get like 100 convincts from death row and tell them if they fight the bear and win they can go free. Then buy the biggest fuken bear you can and ship them all to like south korea where this shit is legal :p. The convincts would probably literally rape the bear, or if youre in a forest environment get some sticks and start trying to make a fucken fire, last time i cheked bear+fire=dinner.
If this were to happen it would need rules to improve motivation and fairness for both parties.
It would have to be held in large pit like areana with no items available for use as weapons.
Smooth walls clean floor.
Water has to be available mabe in corner pits but not deep enough to assist in drowning the Bear.
Then the 100 Men ( best to use death row convicts) need a reason to fight hard.
Basically anyone left alive will be fixed up and allowed to leave with a full pardon
(well thats what we tell them but need to keep them for a match up with the Bears brother in a pay per view revenge match if the men win)
They win only when Bear is dead but there is a time limit that if Bear is not killed in 12 hours then all are gassed.
Time limit is important as unlimited means both parties would tire of fighting and probably start to co habitat together living for weeks on the fallen victims and someone will film it and call it LOST…
The Bear needs to be a dominate male with battle scars and then properly trained to hate humans for at least 3 months (Basically the time it takes to watch Big Brother) and then starved prior to match.
Maybe a polar Bear they are more meat eaters than the woodlands cousins.
The Men need also to be trained for 3 months with any variety of T Nation programs aimed towards speed, agility and also a lot of hand conditioning to make then tougher to be used as weapons for gouging.
Around 30 have to focus on weight gain to add more mass by sheer weight volume to help hold onto the Bear.
Others have to be coached in more technical skills of leaping from others shoulders, wrestling moves and bite training.
My predictions would be the Men would win with around 80 still alive, yes some totally incapacitated, but the human body for all our weakness in attack we have a pretty robust body that does survive pretty horrfic injuries often.
The first 15 - 30mins the Bear would go nuts but I think even a crazy bear would tire quickly after this and by the 4th - 5th hour with the swarming distractions it would start to cower and find a place to hide and then try and strike out at one or two people at a time… but 100 is huge numbers and if the men kept reserve squad of 25 and tried to rotate the attacking stream this could be achieved.
Actually inflicting harm on the Bear I suggest that once tired and they mannaged to get Bear on the ground kicking would probably be the only effective way apart from dropping on the bear from height but would be scary at bottom of pyramid knowing if the the Bear got loose would attack you first.
Yes after Men start to fall use of there bones would be the only way they could actually kill the Bear with ease that and sheer exhustion and stress would nearly kill the Bear as well as well placed biting.
The Bear is built to hit fast and hard then move away and rest, consistant attacking is not what they are built for and will tire quickly especially when you get 20 people hanging off it yes with one or two stuck in his mouth.
And yes I also have too much time on my hands.
[quote]grew7 wrote:
Kratos wrote:
ExNole wrote:
But apparently not killed in one blow, which was predicted by a lot of people.
Really? He sure as Hell wasn’t gonna be doing anything, and he likely would have bled to death if not for the other people there.
There are ninety-nine other people there, each with clothes. A man will not bleed to death. His team could just, rip their clothes and use it to stop bleeding, like in those action movies.[/quote]
Yeah, it’s really easy to stop the bleeding when flesh is rent down to the bone, especially with clothes. Really easy.
Also is it that the humans HAVE to fight and kill the bear or do they just have to pretty much outlast it a.k.a starvation.
BTW wow can’t believe this topic got so many responses, some of wich are quite dumb but watever.
I think you would have to set aside 3 men in the begining to set up a triage unit.
That way the fighters would be less scared to be injured because they would have medical attention close by.
[quote]jbodzin wrote:
I think you would have to set aside 3 men in the begining to set up a triage unit.
That way the fighters would be less scared to be injured because they would have medical attention close by. [/quote]
LOL, as if that would matter. The 100 men would be a pile of blood and bones in a matter of minutes.
can the bear have a frickin laser beam attached to its head?
[quote]jasonigor wrote:
E-man wrote:
That picture of the 1,600 pound bear said that it not only ate a hiker the week before and found human remains in its stomach but the hiker also unloaded 4 rounds from a .38 into it before it ate him and the bullets appeared to not have done any harm but minor inflictions. It suggested using no less than a large caliber magnum like a .300 and even that might be too small for a bear that size. So for you that think rocks and kicking will work think again.
For any of you that have ever been in a fight you know the additional adreneline rush that accompanies it. This bear would be so freakin pissed and in such an attack mode that I doubt 300 men could down it. And you are also forgetting the psychological effect you’d get after seeing the first raid of 25 guys get slashed in half with their organs spilling out over the ground.
Art Ridzik: Captain Danko, congratulations. You are now the proud owner of the most powerful handgun in the world.
Ivan Danko: Soviet Patparine, nine-point-two milimeter, is world’s most powerful handgun.
Art Ridzik: Oh, come on, everybody knows the .44 Magnum is the big boy on the block. Why do you think Dirty Harry uses it?
Ivan Danko: Who is Dirty Harry?
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I think he said it was a 12.9MM which would make it a little bigger then a .50cal. handgun. I could be mistaken but I remember saying holy shit that would be a big gun!
[quote]m0dd3r wrote:
can the bear have a frickin laser beam attached to its head?[/quote]
Is it too much to ask for FRIKKIN bears with FRIKKIN lasers on their heads?!
[quote]grew7 wrote:
That’s 1,500lbs of bear versus 15,000lbs of human at the very least. You can’t honestly believe that the humans couldn’t do something to this bear. What if we took some extra from the crowd to actually grab the bear and pick it up? Fifteen of them. Each one can lift 100lbs. Now the bear is in the air and has no control.[/quote]
You have got to be kidding.
You must be from the city.
[quote]grew7 wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
grew, your scenario would be comparable in scale to you taking on a medium sized pitt bull one on one. Give it a try and let us know how grabbing it’s paws and eye gauging it works out for you.
My scenario calls for three groups, two each grabbing a paw and then one going for the face. If you gave me two more people and had each one of them grab and hold down a paw, it would definitely work.
I guess it could be done with one person, though. Those things don’t let go, so a guy could get it bite one of his arms, and then once it had a firm grip, he could gouge out its eyes. Once the eyes are gone, he could start beating it to death with his free hand and his knees.
He might lose a hand, but he’d win. Plus, he’d be wearing clothes, so the bite wouldn’t be that bad. And if anyone thinks of using, “he wouldn’t be in any condition to fight, mentally! He’d be too scared!” as an arguement, think again. He’d freak out and do whatever he had to for survival. The dog won’t, because the dog probably isn’t fighting for its life, it’s just been pissed off a lot. How else do you get a dog to attack a human?[/quote]
Oh, I’m so totally amazed by how stupid people can be.
TWO people grab a bear’s paw?!?!?! Are you fucking serious?
[quote]Davis951 wrote:
If this were to happen it would need rules to improve motivation and fairness for both parties.
It would have to be held in large pit like areana with no items available for use as weapons.
Smooth walls clean floor.
Water has to be available mabe in corner pits but not deep enough to assist in drowning the Bear.
Then the 100 Men ( best to use death row convicts) need a reason to fight hard.
Basically anyone left alive will be fixed up and allowed to leave with a full pardon
(well thats what we tell them but need to keep them for a match up with the Bears brother in a pay per view revenge match if the men win)
They win only when Bear is dead but there is a time limit that if Bear is not killed in 12 hours then all are gassed.
Time limit is important as unlimited means both parties would tire of fighting and probably start to co habitat together living for weeks on the fallen victims and someone will film it and call it LOST…
The Bear needs to be a dominate male with battle scars and then properly trained to hate humans for at least 3 months (Basically the time it takes to watch Big Brother) and then starved prior to match.
Maybe a polar Bear they are more meat eaters than the woodlands cousins.
The Men need also to be trained for 3 months with any variety of T Nation programs aimed towards speed, agility and also a lot of hand conditioning to make then tougher to be used as weapons for gouging.
Around 30 have to focus on weight gain to add more mass by sheer weight volume to help hold onto the Bear.
Others have to be coached in more technical skills of leaping from others shoulders, wrestling moves and bite training.
My predictions would be the Men would win with around 80 still alive, yes some totally incapacitated, but the human body for all our weakness in attack we have a pretty robust body that does survive pretty horrfic injuries often.
The first 15 - 30mins the Bear would go nuts but I think even a crazy bear would tire quickly after this and by the 4th - 5th hour with the swarming distractions it would start to cower and find a place to hide and then try and strike out at one or two people at a time… but 100 is huge numbers and if the men kept reserve squad of 25 and tried to rotate the attacking stream this could be achieved.
Actually inflicting harm on the Bear I suggest that once tired and they mannaged to get Bear on the ground kicking would probably be the only effective way apart from dropping on the bear from height but would be scary at bottom of pyramid knowing if the the Bear got loose would attack you first.
Yes after Men start to fall use of there bones would be the only way they could actually kill the Bear with ease that and sheer exhustion and stress would nearly kill the Bear as well as well placed biting.
The Bear is built to hit fast and hard then move away and rest, consistant attacking is not what they are built for and will tire quickly especially when you get 20 people hanging off it yes with one or two stuck in his mouth.
And yes I also have too much time on my hands.
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I am amazed…just…amazed…