People who take proviron generally take 50mg ED so 350mg weekly to answer your question. Its kinda a more is better product but its also usually not too cheap. 25mg can be effective. 50mg is a sweet spot. Although 75mg and even 100mg ED is slightly more effective than 50mg. 50mg definitely is the sweet spot between cost and effectiveness.
If you need 1mg a week of adex with a TRT dose you clearly need to continue with it. Although I suppose with the hcg in there its good you have it since hcg can lead to gyno for many. 1mg a week is more than some guys would take for a cycle higher than yours. Hard for me to say you’ll need to increase your adex if/when you move to 600mg of test. But I’d definitely keep taking at least the 1mg a week you are now, very well might need 2mg. You’ll know better than me
To jack the effectiveness of the Test…and to maintain a “harder” physique. I’m not looking to gain 20lbs and 15 of it being water and fat. Rather 10 solid pounds and keep the body fat down.
Everything I have read suggests that Proviron compliments Test very well. I know several guys that have stacked the 2 and done well.
[quote]senior citizen wrote:
To jack the effectiveness of the Test…and to maintain a “harder” physique. I’m not looking to gain 20lbs and 15 of it being water and fat. Rather 10 solid pounds and keep the body fat down.
Everything I have read suggests that Proviron compliments Test very well. I know several guys that have stacked the 2 and done well.[/quote]
It is a complimentary product and one I’ve used before and liked. However, to be clear and maybe correct some falsehoods you asserted intentionally or not. You will not gains 15lbs of water and fat by taking test. There will be water gain but any fat gain is down purely to your diet and 0% to injecting test. A better pairing for you would be mast and test. You’d get all the benefits of proviron and more. But if all you got is proviron go ahead and use it. Given your age and circumstances with dose level and what-not its very unlikely you’ll balloon up with a 20lb water weight gain in. Leanness of your gains has a lot to do with diet and secondarily on dose levels as well as ancillary usage. Given your quantity of proviron and adex I’d expect quote unquote leaner gains
When I commented about less than “quality” gains I meant IF I stacked the Test with something like Dianabol, Anadrol etc…I have been on Test Cyp for about 9 months as part of my TRT protocol and it has kept me very lean and strong. Of course I do eat very clean and do plenty of cardio.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Keep your arimidex dose on point and you dont have to worry about excessive water.
I only asked about proviron because I think it is a waste of money, that’s all. Theres no problem using it. [/quote]
Yeah it is expensive for what it does. When I realized I could get the same and better effects from masteron at a fraction of the cost I was done with proviron. But if someone already has it might as well use it there is no downside.
So you guys agree Masteron is better huh?
Why? Is less cost the big issue?
Please elaborate…much appreciated!
I mean if I can get Mast and it’s better than I will do that over the Proviron, Can always get rid of he Pro
Masteron actually has anabolic properties. Proviron, at conventional bodybuilding doses, doesnt. Strength gains are great with masteron. Most people use it in the 250-400mg/wk range. I have yet to use it however. This info is based on conversations with experienced others.
Masteron is a nice drug. The only downside that I have experienced is a tendancy to generate an oily, bitter sweat, on the stuff. Oh, and muscle cramps at doses above 300mg/wk.
[quote]senior citizen wrote:
So you guys agree Masteron is better huh?
Why? Is less cost the big issue?
Please elaborate…much appreciated!
I mean if I can get Mast and it’s better than I will do that over the Proviron, Can always get rid of he Pro :)[/quote]
As my esteemed friends above have already pointed out masteron is really a fantastic product. It certainly aids in strength in the gym, it definitely helps with leaness and vascularity when your diet is right, it is a libido booster and erection enhancer [probably a combo of the product itself as well as its mild anti-estrogenic properties]. I’ve never encountered the sweat that BBB has, nor have I encountered the hairloss issues that seem to be the #1 complaint with mast. For me of the compounds I use regularly mast is probably the least problematic for me to use. Of course mileage varies from user to user.
As far as dosing goes I do tend to favor a slightly higher dose between 400-600mg a week. But the cramping problem BBB spoke of I only encountered when using too much dbol, and so arguably the problem could have been exclusively the dbol.
Bottom Line: For the goals you seem to have mast would be a great choice for you. Its not a must have requirement and since you’re doing your first real test cycle you could just go with that and run the proviron. But if you can get mast there is no question its “better” than proviron
Ok shit fuck is all I have to say…Proviron never came through. My guy is a dickhead! Not looking good for the Mast either
How about this then, 600mg/wk of the Hexavir 300 injected 4x/wk? I like using insulin pins in the outer quad (too easy and every bit a effective as deep IM in the glutes) Might even try the deltoid this go around.
I would do 1/2cc (300mg/cc) Mon, Wed, Fri and Sun for a total of 600mg/wk. Is this a decent cycle for 10 weeks? What can I expect in terms of gains?
*I’ve never been a big cycle guy (did 2 when I was younger for hockey). On TRT for almost a year now and feeling great! It really is the shit for guys over 40.
No PCT required as I will just go back to my TRT when done and will continue Arimidex 1mg/wk and HCG 250iu 3x/wk.
Thoughts?
PS if anyone wants to donate Proviron or Mast to this most worthwhile cause please fell free :o) LOL!
