Thinking of Burst Cycling Soon

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Hello my fellow testosterone loving people, first time poster here although I’ve lurked for quite some time I thought it’d be about time to start posting here and getting a little more involved due to my frequency of site visits. I’ve become extremely serious about physical fitness as part of my life, I now live, breathe and shit fitness in every fiber of my being 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Mainly because I used to be very obese.

My worst plummet of health was at it’s peak when I was 370lbs and 5’10 when I was a youngster.

Needless to say I made some adjustments. I always wanted to be jacked and shredded so I got to work, 4 years later I made it to 200lbs at 6’3’'. Health checks from the doc say that I’m in perfect health as if I wasn’t fat before. So I thought I’d start kicking it up a notch and compete.

So here I am now, done one cycle a little while ago and now I’m ready for my next AAS approach. My last cycle was Test E @500mg/week for 15 weeks and Dbol @50mg/week for 5 weeks, I gained 60lbs and now I’m sitting at 260.4lbs.

My major lifts went from
Bench: 200lbs max/135lbs for working sets of 12
Squat:315 max/135lbs for working sets of 12
Deadlift:315 Max/225lbs for working sets of 10

to
Bench: 350 max x2/225 for working sets of 12
Squat: 405 max x2/225 for working sets of 15
Deadlift: 515 max x2/315 for working sets of 15

PCT was
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Now that all of this long shit is out of the way it’s time to shorten the rest of it all up.

What I’m doing next will be short burst cycles of 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. I’ve been pulling my hair out with trying to find out what I’m doing next, I’ve been leaning towards the following:

Test prop @50mg/ed
Tren Ace @75mg/ed
Mast prop @50mg or @100mg/ed
Winny oral @50mg/ed

Similar PCT except addition of HCG in the mix. Not sure if I want to run HGH at 5iu for 25 days for its benefits during cycle or use it as so off cycle during pct to maintain mass and control fat to prime for my next cycle.

Stats:
22 Years old
260lbs
appx 17-20%bf
6’4’’

I understand that I’m considerably young but I plan to compete very soon. It’s just a personal goal that eats me away by the day.

Thank you very much for your time. Any opinions and thoughts are welcome.

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HCG is suppressive to your HPTA and needs to be ran while on cycle or it will make recovering much harder and even impossible for some.

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I do understand a lot of people say to run it during, especially because tren shuts you down extremely hard and all. But I’ve always felt that perhaps it would have been a little more appropriate to run HCG post cycle due to you supposed to not have any test production on cycle. I’ve thought personally that running HCG at a much higher dose in that time frame would get the ol nuts up and going faster.

Telling your body to produce test when telling it to stop producing test at the same time perhaps isn’t the proper approach. What I’ll do because of that is just try one method and then the other to find out what works best for me.

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If you were not going to listen or already knew what you were going to do no matter what was said even by some who at a considerably lower body weight than you is out totaling you by a good bit and is the same age mind you with quite a bit of knowledge of the subjects at hand suggested then why did you even ask the question?

Eat Lift Sleep and Buds please step in here.

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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to sound like someone that doesn’t listen, I will take all ideas into consideration. I don’t want to come off as some type of hard headed type to you. Asking a question and getting 100 different types of ideas and answers is far better than having not known many different opinions. It’s all 100% useful information.

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i really wouldnt base your potential ability to make testosterone for the rest of your life on your own limited opinion , which is the opposite of the vast majority. i wouldnt risk it but hey its your choice

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So what would the both of you in your own separate methods do?

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what exactly is the question in this thread?

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You gained 60lbs of muscle on your first cycle?

I want to be leaf.

How long ago was your last cycle? How has your heart adjusted to having an additional 60lbs back on? How is your cholesterol?

Have you had bloodwork done?

I’m still going to stick to my guns and say tren and nolva is a bad idea, regardless of the ester. Do you have caber or some form of prolactin control?

Why do you feel you should jump straight from test and dbol alone to test, tren, mast, winstrol and then HGH?

I’m a firm believer in giving yourself a trial period with each compound to see how you react, and honestly I wouldn’t bother with mast until you are <12% bf as most people only really see a change in vascularity and use it as a water control/AI. And that’s expensive.

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I am just finishing a 10 week cycle running hcg throughout and didn’t get shutdown at all. The old balls are as big as ever. Now doesn’t that seem like a better option and seemless transition opposed to letting them shrivel up and not make any test then trying to jumpstart them when you are putting other pct compounds into your body that are going to interfere with the process?

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[quote]Kirkbrah wrote:
So what would the both of you in your own separate methods do?[/quote]

pretty much the only way its recommended by the majority of people, 750-1000 mgs a week split up.

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[quote]Claron wrote:
You gained 60lbs of muscle on your first cycle?

I want to be leaf.

How long ago was your last cycle? How has your heart adjusted to having an additional 60lbs back on? How is your cholesterol?

Have you had bloodwork done?

I’m still going to stick to my guns and say tren and nolva is a bad idea, regardless of the ester. Do you have caber or some form of prolactin control?

Why do you feel you should jump straight from test and dbol alone to test, tren, mast, winstrol and then HGH?

I’m a firm believer in giving yourself a trial period with each compound to see how you react, and honestly I wouldn’t bother with mast until you are <12% bf as most people only really see a change in vascularity and use it as a water control/AI. And that’s expensive.[/quote]

My last cycle was 13 weeks ago. Judging by how I feel about my heart I would say that it’s still doing just as good. I’m always running 4 miles every day atop my weight training and I try to keep my heart as strong as possible, I’m well adjusted to cardiovascular exercise from even when I was much heavier and so on. My cholesterol is good, I would have to thank my diet and all for that. I’m due for bloodwork soon, during cycle everything was fine, bp was a little higher than usual of course but I wasn’t at risk for anything. I react very well to test and dbol so I would assume the rest should be good to go, although I have different feelings about tren and I will be watching and testing it, the masteron was pretty much for water control and AI purposes, perhaps just a little more performance edge as well. I can’t get caber or anything so I’ll have to just monitor myself and take my time. I’m wanting to take such an amount of gear mainly for the extra edge, I do understand more is not better, but I’m taking those certain types for their specific traits.

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[quote]leadhead wrote:
I am just finishing a 10 week cycle running hcg throughout and didn’t get shutdown at all. The old balls are as big as ever. Now doesn’t that seem like a better option and seemless transition opposed to letting them shrivel up and not make any test then trying to jumpstart them when you are putting other pct compounds into your body that are going to interfere with the process?[/quote]

Well I suppose I could, it’s not really much of a hassle to do it.

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Also, for comparison purposes in this picture I’m undefined and smaller. This was when I was trying to get uber lean but during a music festival I wasn’t looking so hot per say. I went to extremes to cut and lost definition and size. Natty crash cutting is the worst idea ever.

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You should knock up your GF before you do this cycle. Last chance to have kids.

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[quote]BigJc wrote:
You should knock up your GF before you do this cycle. Last chance to have kids.[/quote]

That’s nonsense and you know it.

I did a similar run (tren 3 @ 500, test e @ 350, mast @ 400 weekly) and I havent had any fertility issues (personal shit I’d rather not talk about but Im sure you can guess because I’m still not a father).

This happened once while I was on and once when I was off. Poor girl.

That being said, we all react differently and I wouldn’t say it’s NOT possible to end up shooting blanks, but from this? I doubt it.

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[quote]BigJc wrote:
You should knock up your GF before you do this cycle. Last chance to have kids.[/quote]

Lol, that’s not a concern whatsoever my man.

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This was a pic of me pre-crashcutting. 15lbs heavier.

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I am being a little silly. But why no HCG? Seems silly to risk it, and just from a mental perspective its gotta psych you out for your balls to disappear

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[quote]BigJc wrote:
I am being a little silly. But why no HCG? Seems silly to risk it, and just from a mental perspective its gotta psych you out for your balls to disappear[/quote]

Are you speaking of no HCG with my last cycle? If that’s the case, I didn’t think I’d need it for just those two compounds. Turns out I recover very rapidly too, so it was a pretty lucky turnout for me. My balls were back to size in one week of PCT.