The physique you get from olympic lifting depends on several factors:
The amount of exercises you do. The less exercises, the shittier the physique. Muscles most active in the olympic lifts: 1. Quadriceps. 2 erector spinae. 3 Traps and at a distant 4th the glutes. Muscles neglected with olympic lifts: hamstrings, biceps, chest and abdominals. In fact in the book “supertraining” it is stated that elite weightlifters have on average quadriceps that are 4 times stronger than their hamstrings.
Diet
Genetics
drugs
Look at the well balanced physiques of the Chinese and Russians and then compare them with the physiques of the bulgarians from the 80’s. The Bulgarians had nothing but the muscles required to excel in the snatch and C&J, i.e huge quads and backs but flat hamstrings mediocre glutes and little upper body mass.
Some people seem to think that you need to look like a pro bodybuilder to have muscle mass that is of any worth. No. Very little muscle mass goes a long way IF it’s fat and water free (“pure” muscle). Some “skinny” guys who lift big weights don’t break any physical laws.
[quote]Wrah wrote:
Some people seem to think that you need to look like a pro bodybuilder to have muscle mass that is of any worth. No. Very little muscle mass goes a long way IF it’s fat and water free (“pure” muscle). Some “skinny” guys who lift big weights don’t break any physical laws.[/quote]
[quote]Wrah wrote:
Some people seem to think that you need to look like a pro bodybuilder to have muscle mass that is of any worth. No. Very little muscle mass goes a long way IF it’s fat and water free (“pure” muscle). Some “skinny” guys who lift big weights don’t break any physical laws.[/quote]
[quote]Carlito Gambino wrote:
Even then, a guy like Stoitsov really doesn’t have an exceptionally good build [/quote]
Can you post pictures of natural bodybuilders weighing 170 pounds or less whom you consider to blow Stoitsov out of the water? You can try repetrope or musclememory to look for pictures. [/quote]
I’m not one to look at bodybuilding shows because the contests themselves don’t interest me, but take your pick here:
Pretty much all those guys look at least as good, some of them weigh even less and keep in mind none of them are on gear (unlike Stoitsov). I think you’re getting me wrong here, of course he has a good look to him and I’m not saying he has a shit physique or anything to that degree.
It’s just that a regular guy that wants to train for aesthetics shouldn’t think in terms of “WOW STOITSOV LOOKS GOOD AND HE OLY LIFTS SO IF I TRAIN OLY LIFTS AS WELL I’LL END UP LOOKING LIKE HIM”. That train of thought in itself is wrong anyway because by that logic if I did Arnold’s 6x a week routine I’d end up looking like him which ain’t true either (and believe me I’ve tried).[/quote]
“None of them are one gear” --I’ll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert. Secondly the bodybuilders pull all kinds of horseshit involving bengay and plastic wrap, diuretics, red wine, oil, tanning, blah blah blah. And lets ask FEMALES who look good instead of males. Oh last but not least, who do you want on your football, soccer, bball, track team?
[quote]ninearms wrote:
Fawning over Stoitsov is so 2007. These days all the cool kids fawn over Janos Baranyai (the 2011, post elbow dislocation 85kg version).
Hey Ninearms,
Thanks for posting the video, being an old fart and not up on all the cool kid stuff i never heard of Baranyai.
Very nice clip.
It has an excellent shot of his hook-grip just as he sets to pull.LOL
Yong’s not ripped but he definitely has tone and definition even in chest/bis. Granted, his legs are the size of Kansas but that seems to come with the sport.
[quote]kalani2226 wrote:
so what kind of accesory do you guys think Baranyai does? just lots more pull ups/ bench / and dumb bell shoulder work than most other lifters?
lots more of the above lifts in a body building rep range?[/quote]
Pull ups, dips, bench press, military press - the usual suspects for exercises for those specific areas. This coupled with the f0ck load of leg work he will be doing will product a solid all around physique.
Don’t expect an upperbody like his if you don’t through in a few of the above exercises.
He has probably mixed it up over the past few years, doing high, medium and low rep ranges. Just cycle them in and out. It’s not magic. Just consistent hard work over the years coupled with the leg work.
[quote]kalani2226 wrote:
so what kind of accesory do you guys think Baranyai does? just lots more pull ups/ bench / and dumb bell shoulder work than most other lifters?
lots more of the above lifts in a body building rep range?[/quote]
Pull ups, dips, bench press, military press - the usual suspects for exercises for those specific areas. This coupled with the f0ck load of leg work he will be doing will product a solid all around physique.
Don’t expect an upperbody like his if you don’t through in a few of the above exercises.
He has probably mixed it up over the past few years, doing high, medium and low rep ranges. Just cycle them in and out. It’s not magic. Just consistent hard work over the years coupled with the leg work.
