Oly Thrower Bench's 622lbs Raw

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]KBCThird wrote:
Koing wrote:
Pinto wrote:
MikeShank wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/news/2004-07-26-usada-drug-tests_x.htm

Maybe he will get a little more respect after this. Maybe I am being dumb here, but what else can you expect this guy to go through to prove he is clean?

this dude is big, really big, over 6 foot 5 and over 300lbs.

God- poor guy’s trying to land some trout and some douchebag comes from out of nowhere to have him piss in a cup.

Why the fuck do people even care about being in the Olympics anymore. Unless you get a headshot on a Wheaties box, it hardly seems worth it. I’m surprised all sports don’t have a parallel non-tested federation like there is in body building and powerlifting.

Because that would be a JOKE.

ENOUGH people in this forum are VERY quick to bust out the ‘steriods’ and question how clean this athlete is. It makes me sick. This is probably now my biggest single pet peeve. When someone does a bit lift etc they are automatically bashed with this steriods stick.

When my bro smashs 2x bw Snatch people will start ragging on him. But I know better. He is 12, trains his heart out 3x a week and I’ve been here with him and with my coach.

Can we not give this guy the benefit of the doubt? You do realise they is drugs testing?!

How many of you guys have been drugs tested? I’ve had 3 this year and counting. Drugs cheats are getting busted = good. Testing is getting better and the cheats are getting busted.

This forum makes it sound like every professional athlete/ good athlete is roiding. It is such a sh!t attitude.

Koing

it’s been said many times before “Drug-tested does not mean drug-free”

On a side note, it’s ridiculous that people feel they have to qualify this lift with an addendum “And he’s drug free too!!!11!!ELEVEN” A 622 raw bench is beyond impressive, period. I dont care if you loaded me up with 4 grams of test a week, that’s not going to turn me into a 600 bencher overnight.

I’ve known plenty of guys who’ve used gear, many of them competitive athletes - some in drug-tested sports, some not. And in all of the cases that come to mind steroids AUGMENTED their hard work, it did not REPLACE it. Unfortunately, yeah, taking drugs in a drug-tested event is cheating, and for the most part, not too cool.

But thats just a symptom of the problem that this society thinks it should be able to tell you waht to put into your body, and of this irrational fear of the “all or nothing” mentality that many, if not MOST high-level athletes have.[/quote]

Well the guys aren’t getting tested enough or high level enough to be registered to be tested randomly. They don’t test everybody and they only test the better people as there is no point getting tested if your numbers aren’t good. I wasn’t tested any other year apart from this year.

And your definately right. ANY guy that thinks they can put anywhere the numbers this thrower is putting up with an unlimited amount of roids etc is a JOKER.

Koing

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Guys Cantwell is an animal, more so than any NFL player, just a different kind of animal.

He is now 160kg and a lot older and stronger than this clip of him while still in college.

He could easily blow out WSM champion Phill Pfister, and could annhillate the world records in highland games, but he has gone for Shot, where two tiny little normal guys came first and second in the world championships!!

Shot is loaded, hell one of the shot putters who failed to medal turned up the next day in the discus and medalled!

PS the two tiny normal guys, Reese Hoffa and Adam Nelson are true champions and great guys, but they are unbelievably normal looking in person not big, not small either. amazing they beat Cantwell the beast!

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well since you bumped it, cantwell only lost because he faulted his throws. He actually throws farther then both of those guys, and will probably win the Olympics which is all that matters anyways. Those guys are still animals I think Hoffa benches around 500ish and is very powerful. I hope cantwell just wins the gold medal and goes into WSM would be fun to watch him compete, he is bit too old to start training for football and higher chance of injury in that.

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[quote]leoesharkey wrote:
Guys Cantwell is an animal, more so than any NFL player, just a different kind of animal.

He is now 160kg and a lot older and stronger than this clip of him while still in college.

He could easily blow out WSM champion Phill Pfister, and could annhillate the world records in highland games, but he has gone for Shot, where two tiny little normal guys came first and second in the world championships!!

Shot is loaded, hell one of the shot putters who failed to medal turned up the next day in the discus and medalled!

PS the two tiny normal guys, Reese Hoffa and Adam Nelson are true champions and great guys, but they are unbelievably normal looking in person not big, not small either. amazing they beat Cantwell the beast![/quote]

That’s the first time I’ve heard Hoffa and Nelson being referred to as “tiny” or “normal looking”.

Reese Hoffa
6’0 285 lbs

Adam Nelson
6’0 255 lbs

Granted they’re not monsters but they are huge by any average person’s standard. I can understand what you meant though. You were probably comparing them to other strength athletes.

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Christian wasn’t still in school when this video was shot…it was last September. It was in Mizzou’s weightroom on a normal (relatively) training day for him.

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Do people not read the Original Post? I wouldn’t say anything about steriods if the OP did not say he “probably doesn’t use steriods being that he gets tested and all”. As if this guarentees that he doesn’t use roids.

I agree with whoever said there should be a non tested federation for sports, because track and field and cycling have just proven time and time again that the champs use.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I just don’t get why o-lifters dont develop some sort of suit or other apparatus that will help lift the weight.[/quote]

Word. Then we’ll see the 1000lb clean and jerk, and it’ll be just like powerlifting!

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[quote]shizen wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
shizen wrote:
This guy is huge explosive and strong, I don’t get why these kind of guys don’t go into the nfl and rake in the millions.

Ya know, I thought about that myself a few times. These O lifters could probably pop the shit out of any linemen they were put up against. So why not get in and make some money?

Then again, if they had to start training for football, they wouldnt be able to focus so much on the O lifting. Then again, would they lose the ability to recruit so many fibers all at once if they didnt continually train it?

I dunno.

There’s a lot more to football than just being strong and explosive. You gotta have talent, experience, and football skill to play in the NFL.

You’re underestimating the Linemen in the NFL if you don’t think that they’d break this guy in half if stepped on a football field.

Thats true but to say they would break in half a guy that is probably stronger/faster and bigger then them is an exaggeration. I do agree he doesn’t have enough experience to be effective though. It’s a lot harder to train size and explosiveness then it is to train fundamental linemen skills.

He has the perfect size and strength/speed that he COULD have been a great NFL lineman, though he decided to go into an Olympic career instead.
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These statements make me wonder how many of you have actually ever played football. Some people act like the only things necessary to be a good football player are explosiveness and strength. While these things are important…they wont take you far on their own.

A 450 power clean at 300 lbs? Impressive, but by no means inhuman. I know a 230 lb linebacker at FSU who power cleaned 330 immediately after graduating high school…had he spent the next 4 years focused on lifting, I dont think 450 lbs would be very far out of the question, especially if he gained a good deal more weight.

I know a 260 lb Offensive Lineman at Georgia Tech who bench pressed 185 lb 44 times as a high school junior (weighing around 240 at the time). I know a guy who box squatted over 500 lbs and power cleaned 350 (I witnessed both of these lifts personally) who was relegated to scout team at my university.

I have seen the strongest and fastest guy on a team ride the bench because, while he was the strongest and the fastest, he still sucked at football.

Being strong is important in football, but just being strong makes you as good a football player as just being short makes you a good jockey.

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AWESOME VID!!!

This guy is INSANELY strong! And Benching is NOT his sport.

(rant warning)

Now, why the F* do people bring up Steroids??? As if anybody who takes steroids can bench 600lbs. And yes these guys DO get tested YEAR ROUND!

Another thing, why do people question his choice in sport??? HE LOVES the sport he does! PLUS getting Gold at the Olympics is an extremely prestigious award. Its not all about $$ fellas. Sure he gets a decent amount of $, enough to pay his bills, buy a few things, and keep training in the sport he loves.

Additionally, he knows he is an Insanely Strong M.Fer and he doesn’t look like one.

Oh and another thing… for all of those who say:
“Yeah well, I see a lot of people Bench 600lbs and even 700lbs everyday”
I ask: “CAN U DO IT???”
If you can’t walk it, you can’t talk it.

(end rant)

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[quote]ledfist wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I just don’t get why o-lifters dont develop some sort of suit or other apparatus that will help lift the weight.

Word. Then we’ll see the 1000lb clean and jerk, and it’ll be just like powerlifting! [/quote]

Because the Olympic Lifting is different.

And even if a suit was made, it would be banned! Hell, you are not even allowed to wear all the wraps you see suited powerlifters wear.

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[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
shizen wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
shizen wrote:
This guy is huge explosive and strong, I don’t get why these kind of guys don’t go into the nfl and rake in the millions.

Ya know, I thought about that myself a few times. These O lifters could probably pop the shit out of any linemen they were put up against. So why not get in and make some money?

Then again, if they had to start training for football, they wouldnt be able to focus so much on the O lifting. Then again, would they lose the ability to recruit so many fibers all at once if they didnt continually train it?

I dunno.

There’s a lot more to football than just being strong and explosive. You gotta have talent, experience, and football skill to play in the NFL.

You’re underestimating the Linemen in the NFL if you don’t think that they’d break this guy in half if stepped on a football field.

Thats true but to say they would break in half a guy that is probably stronger/faster and bigger then them is an exaggeration. I do agree he doesn’t have enough experience to be effective though. It’s a lot harder to train size and explosiveness then it is to train fundamental linemen skills.

He has the perfect size and strength/speed that he COULD have been a great NFL lineman, though he decided to go into an Olympic career instead.

These statements make me wonder how many of you have actually ever played football. Some people act like the only things necessary to be a good football player are explosiveness and strength. While these things are important…they wont take you far on their own.

A 450 power clean at 300 lbs? Impressive, but by no means inhuman. I know a 230 lb linebacker at FSU who power cleaned 330 immediately after graduating high school…had he spent the next 4 years focused on lifting, I dont think 450 lbs would be very far out of the question, especially if he gained a good deal more weight.

I know a 260 lb Offensive Lineman at Georgia Tech who bench pressed 185 lb 44 times as a high school junior (weighing around 240 at the time). I know a guy who box squatted over 500 lbs and power cleaned 350 (I witnessed both of these lifts personally) who was relegated to scout team at my university.

I have seen the strongest and fastest guy on a team ride the bench because, while he was the strongest and the fastest, he still sucked at football.

Being strong is important in football, but just being strong makes you as good a football player as just being short makes you a good jockey.

[/quote]

all decent points but this guy has already proven himself to be an ELITE competitor and is HUGE. He is 6’6 300+ lbs with 480 power clean btw, 600+ bench and 600+ squat. His foot work is amazing since he has mastered the spin technique which is pretty much all that is really necessary as a lineman.

You don’t give this guy enough credit he COULD have been a great football player. I know how hard it is i played football, but this guy i’m positive would have been a great player.

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[quote]NeoSpartan wrote:
ledfist wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I just don’t get why o-lifters dont develop some sort of suit or other apparatus that will help lift the weight.

Word. Then we’ll see the 1000lb clean and jerk, and it’ll be just like powerlifting!

Because the Olympic Lifting is different.

And even if a suit was made, it would be banned! Hell, you are not even allowed to wear all the wraps you see suited powerlifters wear.[/quote]

actually, I’ve seen Inzer knee wraps used in a local competition.

but that was only once.!

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[quote]shizen wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
shizen wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
shizen wrote:
This guy is huge explosive and strong, I don’t get why these kind of guys don’t go into the nfl and rake in the millions.

Ya know, I thought about that myself a few times. These O lifters could probably pop the shit out of any linemen they were put up against. So why not get in and make some money?

Then again, if they had to start training for football, they wouldnt be able to focus so much on the O lifting. Then again, would they lose the ability to recruit so many fibers all at once if they didnt continually train it?

I dunno.

There’s a lot more to football than just being strong and explosive. You gotta have talent, experience, and football skill to play in the NFL.

You’re underestimating the Linemen in the NFL if you don’t think that they’d break this guy in half if stepped on a football field.

Thats true but to say they would break in half a guy that is probably stronger/faster and bigger then them is an exaggeration. I do agree he doesn’t have enough experience to be effective though. It’s a lot harder to train size and explosiveness then it is to train fundamental linemen skills.

He has the perfect size and strength/speed that he COULD have been a great NFL lineman, though he decided to go into an Olympic career instead.

These statements make me wonder how many of you have actually ever played football. Some people act like the only things necessary to be a good football player are explosiveness and strength. While these things are important…they wont take you far on their own.

A 450 power clean at 300 lbs? Impressive, but by no means inhuman. I know a 230 lb linebacker at FSU who power cleaned 330 immediately after graduating high school…had he spent the next 4 years focused on lifting, I dont think 450 lbs would be very far out of the question, especially if he gained a good deal more weight.

I know a 260 lb Offensive Lineman at Georgia Tech who bench pressed 185 lb 44 times as a high school junior (weighing around 240 at the time). I know a guy who box squatted over 500 lbs and power cleaned 350 (I witnessed both of these lifts personally) who was relegated to scout team at my university.

I have seen the strongest and fastest guy on a team ride the bench because, while he was the strongest and the fastest, he still sucked at football.

Being strong is important in football, but just being strong makes you as good a football player as just being short makes you a good jockey.

all decent points but this guy has already proven himself to be an ELITE competitor and is HUGE. He is 6’6 300+ lbs with 480 power clean btw, 600+ bench and 600+ squat. His foot work is amazing since he has mastered the spin technique which is pretty much all that is really necessary as a lineman.

You don’t give this guy enough credit he COULD have been a great football player. I know how hard it is i played football, but this guy i’m positive would have been a great player.
[/quote]

I see your point, however the assumption that he could walk into an NFL practice with zero football experience and dominate over athletes of an equal caliper who have 15+ years of experience in the sport is grossly incorrect.

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[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
shizen wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
shizen wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
shizen wrote:
This guy is huge explosive and strong, I don’t get why these kind of guys don’t go into the nfl and rake in the millions.

Ya know, I thought about that myself a few times. These O lifters could probably pop the shit out of any linemen they were put up against. So why not get in and make some money?

Then again, if they had to start training for football, they wouldnt be able to focus so much on the O lifting. Then again, would they lose the ability to recruit so many fibers all at once if they didnt continually train it?

I dunno.

There’s a lot more to football than just being strong and explosive. You gotta have talent, experience, and football skill to play in the NFL.

You’re underestimating the Linemen in the NFL if you don’t think that they’d break this guy in half if stepped on a football field.

Thats true but to say they would break in half a guy that is probably stronger/faster and bigger then them is an exaggeration. I do agree he doesn’t have enough experience to be effective though. It’s a lot harder to train size and explosiveness then it is to train fundamental linemen skills.

He has the perfect size and strength/speed that he COULD have been a great NFL lineman, though he decided to go into an Olympic career instead.

These statements make me wonder how many of you have actually ever played football. Some people act like the only things necessary to be a good football player are explosiveness and strength. While these things are important…they wont take you far on their own.

A 450 power clean at 300 lbs? Impressive, but by no means inhuman. I know a 230 lb linebacker at FSU who power cleaned 330 immediately after graduating high school…had he spent the next 4 years focused on lifting, I dont think 450 lbs would be very far out of the question, especially if he gained a good deal more weight.

I know a 260 lb Offensive Lineman at Georgia Tech who bench pressed 185 lb 44 times as a high school junior (weighing around 240 at the time). I know a guy who box squatted over 500 lbs and power cleaned 350 (I witnessed both of these lifts personally) who was relegated to scout team at my university.

I have seen the strongest and fastest guy on a team ride the bench because, while he was the strongest and the fastest, he still sucked at football.

Being strong is important in football, but just being strong makes you as good a football player as just being short makes you a good jockey.

all decent points but this guy has already proven himself to be an ELITE competitor and is HUGE. He is 6’6 300+ lbs with 480 power clean btw, 600+ bench and 600+ squat. His foot work is amazing since he has mastered the spin technique which is pretty much all that is really necessary as a lineman.

You don’t give this guy enough credit he COULD have been a great football player. I know how hard it is i played football, but this guy i’m positive would have been a great player.

I see your point, however the assumption that he could walk into an NFL practice with zero football experience and dominate over athletes of an equal caliper who have 15+ years of experience in the sport is grossly incorrect.[/quote]

Yes he CAN’T become a football player now thats for sure, though he could become a possible WSM competitor or pl.

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[quote]Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
leoesharkey wrote:
Guys Cantwell is an animal, more so than any NFL player, just a different kind of animal.

He is now 160kg and a lot older and stronger than this clip of him while still in college.

He could easily blow out WSM champion Phill Pfister, and could annhillate the world records in highland games, but he has gone for Shot, where two tiny little normal guys came first and second in the world championships!!

Shot is loaded, hell one of the shot putters who failed to medal turned up the next day in the discus and medalled!

PS the two tiny normal guys, Reese Hoffa and Adam Nelson are true champions and great guys, but they are unbelievably normal looking in person not big, not small either. amazing they beat Cantwell the beast!

That’s the first time I’ve heard Hoffa and Nelson being referred to as “tiny” or “normal looking”.

Reese Hoffa
6’0 285 lbs

Adam Nelson
6’0 255 lbs

Granted they’re not monsters but they are huge by any average person’s standard. I can understand what you meant though. You were probably comparing them to other strength athletes.[/quote]

i think you will find Hoffa may be a liitle more now