military press, top set 135x7 I’ll test bench in a couple days, set a training max, and start 5/3/1ing military and bench while I continue to rehab my various crippleness
got 3 sets of 5 at 205 on bench last week.
Got bored and wandered by here. Saw that Harry is back to posting. Saw that Carl Darby is not. After nearly 90 seconds of consideration, decided to make my annual post.
I turned 50 a couple days ago. Cousin Harry promises that I’ll get my wisdom this year. I could use it.
Finally getting some help with my hip, but I still can’t deadlift or squat. got real depressed and didn’t lift for almost a year. Doing Dan John’s Easy Strength, cuz it lets me lift every day. Can’t throw, can’t squat. Life has barely any meaning without this things. Except whiskey. There’s always that.
Looks like everyone is still getting stronger. don’t stop on my account.
xoxoxo
Old Lardass
Find something you can do, coz. Doesn’t matter if it’s forearm curls, you’ll be doing something. Keep on with officiating at HG games. And you can throw, albeit light. I’m currently working with an old USSR (Russian major, right?) that throwing light weights leads to better distances. Why? If you can throw the 56# 40’ in the wfd shouldn’t you be able to throw the 28# (half the weight) 80’?
Doesn’t work that way. Your arm, body, legs, aren’t trained to move fast enough (f=ma) to throw the lighter object that far. Throwing light gets you use to moving faster. My long way of saying, throw light shit and perfect your form until you can start going full out. Time for me to open the Jameson’s.
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Got bored and wandered by here. Saw that Harry is back to posting. Saw that Carl Darby is not. After nearly 90 seconds of consideration, decided to make my annual post.
I turned 50 a couple days ago. Cousin Harry promises that I’ll get my wisdom this year. I could use it.
Finally getting some help with my hip, but I still can’t deadlift or squat. got real depressed and didn’t lift for almost a year. Doing Dan John’s Easy Strength, cuz it lets me lift every day. Can’t throw, can’t squat. Life has barely any meaning without this things. Except whiskey. There’s always that.
Looks like everyone is still getting stronger. don’t stop on my account.
xoxoxo
Old Lardass[/quote]
As Harry says, there’s got to be something you can do. Squats aren’t everything… I can’t believe I just said that, BLASPHEMY! “Sorry God of squats I was just kidding I didn’t mean it”
Come on start your log back, you know you want to.
You could just log your alcohol units, total volume, intensity and any new PRs you hit.
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Can’t throw, can’t squat. Life has barely any meaning without this things. [/quote]
This may sound melodramatic, but I can relate! Find what you can do. Then learn to love it and be the best you can be at it.
Refresh me on your hip? I’ve got a decimated labrum, so I have to be very careful with volume and certain moves. One wrong move (like running a 10K) and I’m set back for a number of weeks.
I can’t do any of the sports I like either
but I have managed to find some things in the gym I can do.
Like Snap says- find something you can do and enjoy the shit out of it
This was a re-post, because the one I sent this morning didn’t appear, but now it has 8 hours later. I know it’s Sunday, but jeez.
Sorry to sound like such a crybaby. I am currently lifting, just doing goblet squats and really light kettlebell swings, because my hip isn’t ready for anything more. yet. But its getting better.
I was on the verge of scheduling a hip replacement, and I decided to give it one more time. a surgeon recommended a PT that works with athletes. he warned me, he works mostly with golfers, but he works with other guys too. I figured what the hell. On the first visit, my right leg was almost 2" shorter than my left because my pelvis was all twisted. he bent me hard, yanked on my leg, and both legs were the same length. It was awesome. I had to learn to walk again, because the way I was walking trying to minimize the pain was making it worse. Being able to walk again is nice.
I haven’t been doing any throwing, even the lighter stuff, because my hip still won’t tolerate triple extension, so I can’t even jump without squealing like a little girl. PT says I’ll be able to start squatting and deadlifting again soon, and I should be able to throw again in the spring. Right now we’re concentrating on bringing back some balancing muscle that’s completely atrophied before I can start loading it. I did renew my judge’s card for Highland Games, but my son has a habit of having swim meets on the same day as the games, so I haven’t been able to go to any this year. yet. swim season is over next week, and there will be some games in the fall, so I’m still hoping to judge one this year.
So, I like to write like a manic depressive, but I’m not. But holding back on the lifting and stuff is difficult.
harry: you are of course right. I could probably work the light hammer… and i’ll leave my snarling left wing politics on the facebooks where it belongs. And its ALWAYS time to open the Jamesons.
Farmer: Are you guys caravaning around spain yet? I haven’t read your log forever, but I’ll be by to snark and troll soon.
Snapper: a couple of old up-slip injuries, aggravated by new-guy bad throwing form. Luckily, there appears to be no cartilage damage, but the femur doesn’t sit in the hip quite right. A couple more yanks ought to get it close.
Kmac: I can bench and press and do stuff that doesn’t require too much hip. But while my dream of a 600 squat isn’t very likely (hell, it wasn’t very likely before I got hurt), I can still have some fun.
Nice to see y’all again.
Hey you’re not dead! Guess I lost that bet. Good to see my fellow whiskey drinker. Hope you start to post again.
- NHLFTR formerly ecogenx
[quote]NHLFTR wrote:
Hey you’re not dead! Guess I lost that bet. Good to see my fellow whiskey drinker. Hope you start to post again.
- NHLFTR formerly ecogenx[/quote]
Stevie!!
Great to hear from you.
Yes, I have been shamed into posting again. I’m a very bad man.
okee dokee.
So I’m doing one of Dan John’s programs called Easy Strength. I got it from his book “Intervention” but he’s written about here, and on his blog if you want to check it out.
Like 5/3/1, its a submax program, but unlike 5/3/1, you don’t do a lot of pushing. The point is on 4 or so exercises, get 2 sets of 5. Every day. Because my hip limits what I can do, I do 2 sets of 5 at 215 on bench, 2 sets of 5 at 95 for barbell curls. 1 set of 10 dumbell rows at 100 (can’t call them Kroc Roze because they are neither heavy, nor high rep). If I werent all busted up, I’d also have a deadlift variation for 2 sets of 5, and I’d do a bunch of swings and farmers walks.
If you’re familiar with Dan’s stuff, this is what he calls a park bench workout. I think he usually recommends this program for people that are concentrating on some other aspect of their training, or too busy. if you rush a little, you can be done in less than 20 minutes. I substitute the lifts I can’t do with the little rehab exercises my PT has given me.
Just to get a taste of heavier weights, there is a day where you just get 6 singles, and a day where you get 5 at your regular 5 weight, add weight for a triple, then add more weight for a double. This allows you to test yourself a little without spending a lot of time maxing.
I chose this program in May because I hadn’t lifted since October, and I felt weak as hell. You’re supposed to start at 50% of your 1RM, but there was no way I was starting with 160 lbs on bench. So I started at 195 for a week, went to 205 for 4 weeks, then just jumped to 215. The point is to add weight when it feels so light that you feel guilty. I hit a single at 275, and I was good for at least 3, so my strength is definitely coming back, even though its a simple easy program.
I will rejoin the 5/3/1 cult of world domination after I can squat and deadlift again. Not being able to do the money lifts took all the fun out of 5/3/1. I got so depressed I stopped lifting altogether. But not lifting was driving me buggy, so I found a way to get back in it without feeling too bad. I think Easy Strength is a great program for an in-season athelete that would go crazy if he couldn’t lift every day.
so, the log:
7/21/13
bench 5x 215/215
Curl 5x 95/95
dumbell row 11x 100
7/22/13
bench 5x 215/215
Curl 5x 95/95
dumbell row 11x 100
Pretty dull but its right for me right now.
Whine Harder,
old lardass
PS sorry for the book
Getting back to a 275 bench is pretty respectable. DB rows with 100# for 11 and curls w/95# are respectable numbers, too.
Thanks Harry.
My son is tearing it up at the state swimming meet. this is his first year as a “senior” age 15+. yesterday he took 15th in the 100 Breast with a 1:17.36.
In the prelims today, he qualified for finals in the 200m breast. he is ranked 14th with 2:49.96. The finals are tonight.
there has been no lifting due to the swim meet. only diet cheating to make up for not training.
Looking forward to reading how your son does in the finals.
I was wondering if you can do leg ext, leg curls and calf raises without pain? No shame in high rep machine leg exercises.
Erik took 12th in state in the 200m breast with 1:47.36 His morning time was a 5 second PR, and he shaved over 2 more seconds in the final. His work ethic is incredible, and I couldn’t be prouder of him.
Steve, I can’t do leg curls because it causes lots of grinding inside my bad knee (other leg from the bad hip). leg extensions same problem. I should become a calf-raise specialist. Except I tore my left calf pushing my car several years ago.
And, it’s just as well. I hate other people, and I don’t have any of those machines in my garage.
Are you still using the stones you grew yourself in that fertile NH soil, or have you made some atlas stones?
Im glad to read your son did so well. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
I knew you were beat up but I never realized the extent of you injuries. Wish I had some helpful advice.
I’m using the same homegrown stones. But I’ve swallowed my pride and started using lighter stones. My stone workouts were like maxing out in the gym every set.
Time for another glass of wine. Have a good rest of the weekend.
The breaststroke is a killer style. Want to work the chest, try it. Congrats on his performance.
Other people can help motivate you to lift better. Fall in with a younger crowd who’ll push you.
[quote]hel320 wrote:
The breaststroke is a killer style. Want to work the chest, try it. Congrats on his performance.
Other people can help motivate you to lift better. Fall in with a younger crowd who’ll push you. [/quote]
I need to start lifting with other throwers. I’ve never been able to consistently train with a group of like-minded individuals, and I can’t think of anything I’d like more. But I never see any of that in the gym.
somebody call me the waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhmbulance
Congrats to your son, good to hear about kids getting away from suckling on an electronic teat. Swimming is great.
Back when I was throwing we were too widely scattered to train together much. Maybe a couple of guys here and there, but I never had the chance myself. I never would have learned the oly lifts if I hadn’t been working out with people with other lifting ambitions though. Ambition in the gym is probably even harder to find I guess. I know I’ve been weak on it coming back.
Is your knees/hip good enough to throw? Grinding sounds bad…but if you can get out and launch something, even just standing throws all shoulder, it might motivate you.
Now I have to get out tonight… 