Getting to the point in my cut where I want to introduce a fat burner. Unfortunately, HOT-ROX is out of stock everywhere and I haven’t seen any indication of when it will be available again (have an email in to Biotest).
Been researching some other products but it’s hard to know what reviews are real or BS. But I found an old bottle of ephedra (ephedra sinica extract - 417mg “Supplying 25mg of Ephedrine Alkaloids”) in my cupboard that expired 8 years ago (haha). The bottle has been opened but it’s been in temp-controlled storage.
Should I give this a run as a traditional ECA stack or ditch it and find something else (“new” ECA stack or other product)? No idea if there is any potency left to this or not. Thanks.
Sounds good. I’ll take one ephedra with two green tea pills (70mg caffeine total) and couple cups of coffee. I think that should get me to right around 200mg. I have some baby aspirin I was thinking of taking with it, but I guess I’ll skip it. Seems to be the consensus that the aspirin is not necessary.
[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
Sounds good. I’ll take one ephedra with two green tea pills (70mg caffeine total) and couple cups of coffee. I think that should get me to right around 200mg. I have some baby aspirin I was thinking of taking with it, but I guess I’ll skip it. Seems to be the consensus that the aspirin is not necessary.[/quote]
Yeah, the aspirin is pretty useless. You’ll also probably have more than 200 mg’s of caffeine in you depending on how strong your coffee is (average cup of coffee is like 70-100 mg’s of caffeine, but it’s hard to figure out due to everyone brewing their coffee differently and the coffee grounds/beans not being standardized for caffeine content).
If this is new to you (EC stack), I would just go buy some caffeine pills. No-Doz and Jet-Alert are perfectly fine to use and cheap as heck.
Hadn’t heard of it. Just googled it and see quite a discussion on that vs primatene on bb. Sounds like primatene may be the winner, but not sure where/how to get it or if it’s "better’ than what I have.
[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
Hadn’t heard of it. Just googled it and see quite a discussion on that vs primatene on bb. Sounds like primatene may be the winner, but not sure where/how to get it or if it’s "better’ than what I have.[/quote]
It’s more or less the same. No real difference between Bronkaid and Primatene. Basically buy whatever is available at your local drug store (most of them carry one or the other, unless you’re in state that specifically does not allow for sales of ephedrine products). It’s located by wherever they keep the nasal decongestants/cold/allergies/asthma stuff.
Just a quick update: tried one ephedra yesterday when I got up. Felt something, just not sure what; not sure I liked it either. I then woke up at 4am this morning and couldn’t go back to sleep. Could be completely unrelated but it’s been quite a while since that’s happened.
This morning I decided not to take one since I am going out of town this weekend and don’t want another sleepless night in case the ephedra had anything to do with it (I am not particularly sensitive to stimulants, fyi). But I found four HOT-ROX in my drawer from last year. Popped one of those and I feel them in all the right places (feels like I am internally warm, but not jittery). I called Biotest and they are supposed to be in stock in a couple weeks. I will give the ECA a solid try next week and hope the sides fade and maybe I can use up that bottle.
[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
Just a quick update: tried one ephedra yesterday when I got up. Felt something, just not sure what; not sure I liked it either. I then woke up at 4am this morning and couldn’t go back to sleep. Could be completely unrelated but it’s been quite a while since that’s happened.
This morning I decided not to take one since I am going out of town this weekend and don’t want another sleepless night in case the ephedra had anything to do with it (I am not particularly sensitive to stimulants, fyi). But I found four HOT-ROX in my drawer from last year. Popped one of those and I feel them in all the right places (feels like I am internally warm, but not jittery). I called Biotest and they are supposed to be in stock in a couple weeks. I will give the ECA a solid try next week and hope the sides fade and maybe I can use up that bottle.[/quote]
With ephedrine, you don’t get a super stimulated feel when taking it solo. Maybe slight raise in HR, some heaving type feeling, but not a bouncing off the wall type feel.
HOT-ROX contains yohimbine. That’s what is making you sweat like a little piggie It also obviously contains caffeine. When combining yohimbine with caffeine, you’ll get a pretty strong stimulant effect from that. Since it’s a prop blend, I would have no idea how much caffeine and yohimbine was in HOT-ROX, if I did, I would have suggested a ECY dosing protocol. Since it’s a prop blend, I don’t recommend combining the ephedrine with the HOT-ROX.
If fat burning is your main goal and you want the best appetite suppression possible, I personally would recommend EC stacked with Carbolin 19. The EC will synergize with the forskolin very well.
Thanks KD. For the record, I have no intention of running both HOT-ROX and E at the same time. And I did take the ephedra with a couple green tea pills (70mg caffeine) and a couple cups of coffee (I’ve picked up some caffeine tabs but didn’t use them). That’s interesting about the Carbollin 10; I’ll look into that.
Also, I had another 5-hour night last night, so I can’t blame the ephedra for that. I think my diet/exercise over the last couple weeks is taking it’s toll (I’ve experienced this in the past). I think I’ll make a separate post about that. Thanks again for your feedback.
[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
Thanks KD. For the record, I have no intention of running both HOT-ROX and E at the same time. And I did take the ephedra with a couple green tea pills (70mg caffeine) and a couple cups of coffee (I’ve picked up some caffeine tabs but didn’t use them). That’s interesting about the Carbollin 10; I’ll look into that.
Also, I had another 5-hour night last night, so I can’t blame the ephedra for that. I think my diet/exercise over the last couple weeks is taking it’s toll (I’ve experienced this in the past). I think I’ll make a separate post about that. Thanks again for your feedback.[/quote]
It also obviously contains caffeine. When combining yohimbine with caffeine, you’ll get a pretty strong stimulant effect from that. Since it’s a prop blend, I would have no idea how much caffeine and yohimbine was in HOT-ROX, if I did, I would have suggested a ECY dosing protocol. Since it’s a prop blend, I don’t recommend combining the ephedrine with the HOT-ROX.