Show me the 300lb muscular males that lived a life where they never considered what they ate or any kind of physical training.
On the other hand, we have all seen folks who are really lean yet have never worried about what they eat and perform little or no exercise.
And to think people accused me of arguing for the sake of arguing…
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Also, X, just so you can keep up: I was referring to Bauber before his current condition. I was trying to imply that the journey has been easier because he was already built for it naturally. Going from point A to point B was probably easier for him than it would be for someone like me.[/quote]
My training in high school was absolute shit as was my diet until about 15 when Richard Hogan an ex Memphis standout and NFL player got hold of me. He taught me what working out really was.
I will say the first time I ever got under a bench and actually lifted I was able to press 225 7 times at a few months before 16. By the next year at the combine spring before my senior year I took the combine in Bench with 28 reps at 225.
I was a fat little kid until puberty and I shot up and got stocky. I was always more muscular in a farm boy kinda of way than most. Even as a little toddler I was pretty strong according to my parents. They called me bambam because I always broke shit and got into things normal toddlers couldn’t.
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
Show me the 300lb muscular males that lived a life where they never considered what they ate or any kind of physical training.
On the other hand, we have all seen folks who are really lean yet have never worried about what they eat and perform little or no exercise.
And to think people accused me of arguing for the sake of arguing…[/quote]
It’s the little to no exercises I disagree with. These people you are citing are playing sports and lots of them. That’s exercise. Also many of these people do lots of walking hiking biking ect. That is also exercise. When I think no exercise I think lots of sitting on the couch chair ect
I’ve already specified as to what I was saying. Please read my posts carefully before thinking you know what was said and trying to argue with me. I have said that I know that big guys work hard. However, some are just genetically gifted and don’t have to work as hard as others. Likewise, there are guys who have to work really hard to get lean and there are those who a genetically predisposed to it. I’m just tired of people on here trying to turn every single thread into a pissing contest. Every damn time. People just want validation so much that they try and belittle other peoples’ goals and accomplishments to make their own seem more worthwhile.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Also, X, just so you can keep up: I was referring to Bauber before his current condition. I was trying to imply that the journey has been easier because he was already built for it naturally. Going from point A to point B was probably easier for him than it would be for someone like me.[/quote]
My training in high school was absolute shit as was my diet until about 15 when Richard Hogan an ex Memphis standout and NFL player got hold of me. He taught me what working out really was.
I will say the first time I ever got under a bench and actually lifted I was able to press 225 7 times at a few months before 16. By the next year at the combine spring before my senior year I took the combine in Bench with 28 reps at 225.
I was a fat little kid until puberty and I shot up and got stocky. I was always more muscular in a farm boy kinda of way than most. Even as a little toddler I was pretty strong according to my parents. They called me bambam because I always broke shit and got into things normal toddlers couldn’t.[/quote]
Jeez talk about natural strength
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Also, X, just so you can keep up: I was referring to Bauber before his current condition. I was trying to imply that the journey has been easier because he was already built for it naturally. Going from point A to point B was probably easier for him than it would be for someone like me.[/quote]
My training in high school was absolute shit as was my diet until about 15 when Richard Hogan an ex Memphis standout and NFL player got hold of me. He taught me what working out really was.
I will say the first time I ever got under a bench and actually lifted I was able to press 225 7 times at a few months before 16. By the next year at the combine spring before my senior year I took the combine in Bench with 28 reps at 225.
I was a fat little kid until puberty and I shot up and got stocky. I was always more muscular in a farm boy kinda of way than most. Even as a little toddler I was pretty strong according to my parents. They called me bambam because I always broke shit and got into things normal toddlers couldn’t.[/quote]
Thanks for weighing in on this, Bauber. I appreciate your post. X seems to think that everything I post holds no merit for some reason.
Yeah, it would seem that I was on to something with my posts. I never said Bauber didn’t bust ass to get where he is. I just said that he is genetically predisposed to getting swole. Therefore, one could argue that, comparatively, he has had an easier time than some others might. I was using all of this as an argument to prove that it can go both ways in terms of what is “easy”, whether it’s getting big or lean. People just want recognition so badly on here sometimes that they start fights over nothing because it hurts their pride to hear things contrasting to what they believe.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Also, X, just so you can keep up: I was referring to Bauber before his current condition. I was trying to imply that the journey has been easier because he was already built for it naturally. Going from point A to point B was probably easier for him than it would be for someone like me.[/quote]
My training in high school was absolute shit as was my diet until about 15 when Richard Hogan an ex Memphis standout and NFL player got hold of me. He taught me what working out really was.
I will say the first time I ever got under a bench and actually lifted I was able to press 225 7 times at a few months before 16. By the next year at the combine spring before my senior year I took the combine in Bench with 28 reps at 225.
I was a fat little kid until puberty and I shot up and got stocky. I was always more muscular in a farm boy kinda of way than most. Even as a little toddler I was pretty strong according to my parents. They called me bambam because I always broke shit and got into things normal toddlers couldn’t.[/quote]
Jeez talk about natural strength [/quote]
I supposedly take after my great uncle who passed when I was 3. He was 6’5 though so I didn’t get the height, but he weighed 355ish. He owned a hvac company. I have seen pictures and he was a monster. Very muscular and never touched a weight in his life. No pot belly or fat either really in the midsection in his prime. He lifted entire AC units on his own by picking them up. My dad used to go down in the summers and help him. He said he was a freak and acted like he thought he was just like everyone else lol. He did grow up on a large farm though, so he was used to manual labor.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Also, X, just so you can keep up: I was referring to Bauber before his current condition. I was trying to imply that the journey has been easier because he was already built for it naturally. Going from point A to point B was probably easier for him than it would be for someone like me.[/quote]
My training in high school was absolute shit as was my diet until about 15 when Richard Hogan an ex Memphis standout and NFL player got hold of me. He taught me what working out really was.
I will say the first time I ever got under a bench and actually lifted I was able to press 225 7 times at a few months before 16. By the next year at the combine spring before my senior year I took the combine in Bench with 28 reps at 225.
I was a fat little kid until puberty and I shot up and got stocky. I was always more muscular in a farm boy kinda of way than most. Even as a little toddler I was pretty strong according to my parents. They called me bambam because I always broke shit and got into things normal toddlers couldn’t.[/quote]
Jeez talk about natural strength [/quote]
I supposedly take after my great uncle who passed when I was 3. He was 6’5 though so I didn’t get the height, but he weighed 355ish. He owned a hvac company. I have seen pictures and he was a monster. Very muscular and never touched a weight in his life. No pot belly or fat either really in the midsection in his prime. He lifted entire AC units on his own by picking them up. My dad used to go down in the summers and help him. He said he was a freak and acted like he thought he was just like everyone else lol. He did grow up on a large farm though, so he was used to manual labor.[/quote]
I feel like this post completely disproves X’s theory about there being no naturally large and muscular guys who didn’t train for it specifically. I’m sure he will say that working on a farm is what led to it, but that is exactly like playing basketball leading to guys being lean, like I said.
Once again, thanks for adding to the discussion, Bauber. I feel like the big guns were just called in. Literally. Like, you have large arms.
So we are having a replay of the full house vs. lean thread?
Good to know.
Pretty much. He just can’t let it go. He has to try and prove to everyone that what he has accomplished is much more impressive than anything else.
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
Show me the 300lb muscular males that lived a life where they never considered what they ate or any kind of physical training.
On the other hand, we have all seen folks who are really lean yet have never worried about what they eat and perform little or no exercise.
And to think people accused me of arguing for the sake of arguing…[/quote]
For real.
But no, you are not the only person who sees that.
Thanks anyway.
Some people just don’t store fat easily and are lean. My grandfather was like that and never lifted weights…but his biceps were very defined with veins everywhere. He ate like shit.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
Show me the 300lb muscular males that lived a life where they never considered what they ate or any kind of physical training.
On the other hand, we have all seen folks who are really lean yet have never worried about what they eat and perform little or no exercise.
And to think people accused me of arguing for the sake of arguing…[/quote]
It’s the little to no exercises I disagree with. These people you are citing are playing sports and lots of them. That’s exercise. Also many of these people do lots of walking hiking biking ect. That is also exercise. When I think no exercise I think lots of sitting on the couch chair ect[/quote]
Seriously?
It seems like you really think that every really lean person had to exercise to be that way.
That is not the case.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
Show me the 300lb muscular males that lived a life where they never considered what they ate or any kind of physical training.
On the other hand, we have all seen folks who are really lean yet have never worried about what they eat and perform little or no exercise.
And to think people accused me of arguing for the sake of arguing…[/quote]
For real.
But no, you are not the only person who sees that.
Thanks anyway.
Some people just don’t store fat easily and are lean. My grandfather was like that and never lifted weights…but his biceps were very defined with veins everywhere. He ate like shit.[/quote]
weren’t we talking about relatively minimal effort before? when did it turn to an absolute zero argument? why did ‘never’ get introduced? If X gets to roll with Dexter Jackson leaning out with cardio, and we assume he at least dieted (this is effort), then why can’t we use Bauber’s uncle as an example? His effort seems to have been RELATIVELY minimal, given Bauber’s description, as compared to most humans.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
Show me the 300lb muscular males that lived a life where they never considered what they ate or any kind of physical training.
On the other hand, we have all seen folks who are really lean yet have never worried about what they eat and perform little or no exercise.
And to think people accused me of arguing for the sake of arguing…[/quote]
For real.
But no, you are not the only person who sees that.
Thanks anyway.
Some people just don’t store fat easily and are lean. My grandfather was like that and never lifted weights…but his biceps were very defined with veins everywhere. He ate like shit.[/quote]
weren’t we talking about relatively minimal effort before? when did it turn to an absolute zero argument? why did ‘never’ get introduced? If X gets to roll with Dexter Jackson leaning out with cardio, and we assume he at least dieted (this is effort), then why can’t we use Bauber’s uncle as an example? His effort seems to have been RELATIVELY minimal, given Bauber’s description, as compared to most humans.[/quote]
Most of the men in my family are very big guys on my Dad’s side. I would not call any of them “extremely muscular” though even though they are bigger than average.
My guess is, Bauber’s uncle is the same.
Let me make this clear:
1- it was said that bodybuilders get big IN SPITE OF their training.
2-it was said that there are people who are lean without watching their diet closely or specifically training for it.
3-It was said that bodybuilders do not get big IN SPITE OF their training but they find what works for their own genetics and work hard at it.
What exactly are you disagreeing with?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It’s the little to no exercises I disagree with. These people you are citing are playing sports and lots of them.[/quote]
So, if that were true, what about drug addicts who ONLY care about getting their next fix, yet quite often sport abs. It would be logical to assume that this level of leanness results from the fact they don’t really eat very much. And I doubt they give a shit about being lean, or play any sports.
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
It’s the little to no exercises I disagree with. These people you are citing are playing sports and lots of them.[/quote]
So, if that were true, what about drug addicts who ONLY care about getting their next fix, yet quite often sport abs. It would be logical to assume that this level of leanness results from the fact they don’t really eat very much. And I doubt they give a shit about being lean, or play any sports.
[/quote]
Agreed.
I am not sure what the argument really is about now.
No one can deny that people are very lean on this planet simply because they either don’t eat much or have the genetics to store less fat.
I don’t know anyone who looks like a bodybuilder in terms of muscle size who didn’t train for it at all.
No one seems to have an issue with the statement that big guys get big in spite of their training.
That is odd.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
If X gets to roll with Dexter Jackson leaning out with cardio, and we assume he at least dieted (this is effort), then why can’t we use Bauber’s uncle as an example? His effort seems to have been RELATIVELY minimal, given Bauber’s description, as compared to most humans.[/quote]
Also, no offense but:
Most of the men I know with heavy labor jobs are big too.
THAT IS TRAINING ALSO.
Bodybuilder big is a different story.
I personally don’t see lifting entire ac units on a daily basis as being relatively minimal work.
That seems like a shit load of heavy lifting.
Lol.