Off-Season Bodybuilders

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Not very. Even the military uses injectables like this when there is a risk of biological infection. Epi-pens are used all over the world for people with extreme allergies or even difficulty breathing. You simply push against the skin and the needle pops out giving the dose. It can go through clothing so no one is going to know who is doing it unless they made a show of it.

This is NOT uncommon.

Ah that’s right. I believe I remember reading that people who are extremely allergic to things like bee stings (where just one sting can kill them) are allowed to carry an epi pen.[/quote]

Yes, it’s very easy to get an epi-pen. When I was getting tested for food allergies a while back, the allergist made me take an epi-pen home because one of my concerns was a possible peanut allergy. (Turns out I wasn’t allergic to them though).

Mine isn’t much larger than a magic marker.


Always had small calves… but who is going to tell him to his face?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Judging by the comments he is getting for his “smoother” pics on his myspace page, girls don’t really give that much of a shit about abs apparently.

Why would Shugart lie to us!!! So that he can se- AHEM. cough, cough

Makes me feel a lot better about my own rather smooth appearance.

I just haven’t met the women who go running from muscle mass like they pretend on this website. Maybe it is a cultural or even racial thing but I doubt very many black, hispanic or even italian girls are simply throwing themselves at the skinniest leanest fucker walking around with abs.

I like looking “powerful”. Abs are honestly a non-issue unless I plan to compete as long as I’m not overly fat.[/quote]

It absolutely is a racial/ethnic issue. Not a value judgment at all, but that’s the truth.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Always had small calves… but who is going to tell him to his face?[/quote]

That is largely genetic. I hate it when people point out small calves as if that means they don’t get trained.

Excuse me for taking that personally. My calves look like his.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Always had small calves… but who is going to tell him to his face?

That is largely genetic. I hate it when people point out small calves as if that means they don’t get trained.

Excuse me for taking that personally. My calves look like his.[/quote]

Well… he’s 6 foot 1, and you’re black. At least you both have an excuse!

Some more pics of Iana Ionut.


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[quote]Ramo wrote:

It absolutely is a racial/ethnic issue. Not a value judgment at all, but that’s the truth.[/quote]

In my experience it’s more an age issue than anything like that.

Girls are impressed by abs even if the guy isn’t powerful looking… because… well… girls are supposed to date BOYS afterall.

Women like men, and men have muscles.

White women fantasize about pro football players just as much as black or hispanic women do.

Chinese women? Nobody knows… nobody cares…

Stop Shugarting this excellent thread with talk of silly little girls and epi-pens. :stuck_out_tongue:

Are there really people on here who want to look like the model on V-Diet central when seeing the pic of Kevin up there???

Who above the age of 16 lifts weight for the girls sake anyway? :slight_smile:


From “Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder” -

“I was building up, bulking, going after the mass, which to me meant 250 pounds of sheer body weight. At that time, I didn’t care about my waist or anything else that would give me a symmetrical look. I just wanted to build a gigantic 250-pound body by handling a lot of weight and blasting my muscles. My mind was into looking huge, into being awesome and powerful. I saw it working. My muscles began bursting out all over. And I knew I was on my way.”

Even the Oak had to bulk up!

However, there is a right way to bulk… and there is a wrong way:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/failed_bulk

[quote]mr popular wrote:

In an ideal world I would love to be this size and lean enough to have a tapered waist with abs… but just imagining the meticulous daily effort it would take to maintain that sort of physique - at THAT size - turns me off honestly.
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Strange statement. What exactly do you think is involved?

[quote]mr popular wrote:
From “Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder” -

“I was building up, bulking, going after the mass, which to me meant 250 pounds of sheer body weight. At that time, I didn’t care about my waist or anything else that would give me a symmetrical look. I just wanted to build a gigantic 250-pound body by handling a lot of weight and blasting my muscles. My mind was into looking huge, into being awesome and powerful. I saw it working. My muscles began bursting out all over. And I knew I was on my way.”

Even the Oak had to bulk up!

However, there is a right way to bulk… and there is a wrong way:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/failed_bulk [/quote]

His nickname was “smooth” when he first got here because he had NO definition. It is only recently that people have forgotten this and tried to act like he was always super lean even when gaining. He wasn’t…and neither were most of the other people walking around in a state many would describe as “fucking huge”.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Strange statement. What exactly do you think is involved?[/quote]

When I imagine maintaining a full 6 pack and good definition at that size, I have visions of giant mountains of brown rice and grilled chicken.

Which, if I were dieting down for a show, no problem… but making that a long term thing?

I like my pizza and fried chicken too much.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Strange statement. What exactly do you think is involved?

When I imagine maintaining a full 6 pack and good definition at that size, I have visions of giant mountains of brown rice and grilled chicken.

Which, if I were dieting down for a show, no problem… but making that a long term thing?

I like my pizza and fried chicken too much.[/quote]

I’m not quite that lean at the moment, but it isn’t like he is in contest shape. Many guys have visible abs even if they are above 12% body fat. They just hold it differently. That means it is very possible to be a little loose with your diet yet still be lean enough to make out some level of decent midsection.

In that one pic I linked, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was close to 15% which is easy to maintain while making weekly trips to Wendy’s given that he clearly has an above average metabolism.

That is WHY I don’t really give a shit about abs. I enjoy what I do. I enjoy eating and lifting heavy. I would never want to be the type who only eat chicken breasts and rice all day even though I cook most of my own food.

I do this as a lifestyle. If I hated it, I wouldn’t do it.

I’ve eaten clean all day today, including 2 protein shakes. I still may get a burger on the way home though.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I’m not quite that lean at the moment, but it isn’t like he is in contest shape. Many guys have visible abs even if they are above 12% body fat. They just hold it differently. That means it is very possible to be a little loose with your diet yet still be lean enough to make out some level of decent midsection.

In that one pic I linked, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was close to 15% which is easy to maintain while making weekly trips to Wendy’s given that he clearly has an above average metabolism.

That is WHY I don’t really give a shit about abs. I enjoy what I do. I enjoy eating and lifting heavy. I would never want to be the type who only eat chicken breasts and rice all day even though I cook most of my own food.

I do this as a lifestyle. If I hated it, I wouldn’t do it.

I’ve eaten clean all day today, including 2 protein shakes. I still may get a burger on the way home though.[/quote]

I’m fortunate enough to still show abdominal definition even at higher bodyfat percentages. The downside is that I store more fat in my chest and butt.

But it’s exactly as you said… I do this because I love the whole bodybuilding lifestyle. I feel no urgent need to be ripped, and I doubt I will until I’m large enough to turn heads walking down the street wearing a sweater.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Strange statement. What exactly do you think is involved?

When I imagine maintaining a full 6 pack and good definition at that size, I have visions of giant mountains of brown rice and grilled chicken.

Which, if I were dieting down for a show, no problem… but making that a long term thing?

I like my pizza and fried chicken too much.[/quote]

Here is a basic idea of the daily process

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4763438827871381582&hl=en

[quote]SSC wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
mr popular wrote:
If you all would like to continue your conversation about powerlifters shooting up before a meet, please make your own thread.

This thread is about bulking.

Thanks!

Holy crap! He looks huge. Wasn’t he 250-ish in his first WSM? Anyone know what he is weighing now?

It’s good though. I always rooting for Kevin (since I saw him on MTV years ago… haha, lame,) but he always seemed a few strides behind everyone else in the strength department.

Looks like a nice, good bulk could be what he needs![/quote]

lol same here. I remember watching that true life episode then like 2-3 years later I saw him on WSM and I flipped my shit haha, hes the man.

[quote]Game Time wrote:

Here is a basic idea of the daily process

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4763438827871381582&hl=en

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This is more my style:

I think people have the idea that they’re either “on” a diet or “off” - meanwhile, that type of black & white view just doesn’t hold up in the long run, because it’s impossible to maintain a miserable diet of dry tuna and boiled chicken every day for the rest of your life…

I think people need to see this as a long-term commitment - I mean really long term. Years and years, which means you need to balance what works, with what you can live with on a daily basis.

People can spout all the platitudes they want about sacking up and doing whatever miserable shit is necessary for BB success, but it’s way more realistic to accept more of a balanced approach. Last week I got up and had a protein shake for breakfast, trained heavy legs, didn’t even open my bottle of Surge and instead went to the sushi buffet and put away three huge plates…

Point being that you need to see your diet as a flexible thing or you’re probably just going to fuck up and eat a dozen donuts…

To me, unless you’re dieting down to low single digit bodyfat, the rest of your life has room for real food, as long as you’re training hard you shouldn’t be afraid to eat - within reason of course.

I know there’s a real push around here to proclaim that no one ever made changes with slow, steady progress, and instead the only approach that works is an aggressive sledge-hammer, but I call total bullshit on that.

Do the right thing on a weekly basis, stop trying to live on fucking chemicals and powder, and eat some fucking food. Growth will surely follow. As for the folks out there that would call many of the physiques in this thread “fat”…

[quote]mr popular wrote:
From “Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder” -

“I was building up, bulking, going after the mass, which to me meant 250 pounds of sheer body weight. At that time, I didn’t care about my waist or anything else that would give me a symmetrical look. I just wanted to build a gigantic 250-pound body by handling a lot of weight and blasting my muscles. My mind was into looking huge, into being awesome and powerful. I saw it working. My muscles began bursting out all over. And I knew I was on my way.”

Even the Oak had to bulk up!

However, there is a right way to bulk… and there is a wrong way:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/failed_bulk [/quote]

That’s Arnold at 19 too, or so he says, what an animal.