October Surprise!

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]on edge wrote:
rainjack wrote:
on edge wrote:
rainjack wrote:
on edge wrote:
I respect that you called the Monday, although I’m sure just looking at the futures was all one needed to do to make that call. Regarding this “Bank Holliday” it doesn’t sound very plausible.

The critical problem right now is that the cash flow is freezing up. Closing the banks would slow things down even more and would be counter productive. Also, at this point, the last thing they would want to do is start a run on the banks.

I do agree with you about the brokerage point. Rainjack and the others are quite naive to believe that a broker would never steal assets. If things get bad enough people will do some very bad things. If it gets to that point it will be so chaotic there won’t be much one can do about it.

What are you going to do? Call the police? File a law suit? Good luck with all that when it’s happening to everyone and all hell is breaking loose.

I am not naive. I trade on line, and I know exactly what my broker can and can’t do.

If it gets so bad that I don’t trust my brokerage firm to do what they are paid to do, I will exit the market. If youa re dealing with a company you don’t trust, that is your own folly. Don’t assume that everyone who invests on line goes for the firm with the cheapest per trade charge.

I am curious who you use that you have so little faith in them.

I never picked you for a fear monger, on edge. I am quite disappointed.

I’m not making any type of prediction or anything. I’m just saying if all hell does break loose people will do some desperate things. I use Charles Schwab, btw.

Do you trust them?

I think they are reputable but who knows what one individual who works for them might do. Remember a few years ago a “rouge trader” took down that British bank all by himself?[/quote]

My brokerage firm is member owned. No one works on commissions - it’s all straight salary.

In fact I just received an email today reminding us that we own the firm, and that all of our stock is in our name.

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
I KNOW that Legatus controls the US markets, as a result of the governments decision to back faith-based groups indiscriminately. Visit http://www.legatus.org for more information.

What people do not realize is that “legatus” is NOT composed of HUMAN BEINGS alone but is an alliance (this I will discuss in a separate thread)

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You should know that I will NOT give up my crown as ‘Craziest Person on PWI’ without a fight, sir! You have thrown down the gauntlet!! Let the battle commence!! (j/k…maybe…) :wink:

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Tribunaldude don’t claim YOU yourself are calling the bank holiday.

RainJack I’m not saying I agree with anything, this is the site he is thing he is citing…

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/aad550b590f931bf/2000139928d2d434

on there some guy has his own website and actually did predict September 15th… tibunaldude did not predict it himself.

He’s also claiming the infamous… Israel will attack Iran and Bush will take over supreme power and end the elections and not give power to the next president… we will be in war and the economy will be FAIL.

…

I’m shutting off my internet

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IF you have been following my teachings for a while, you will see the master link between the various issues I have discussed. This entire situation has been considered by “us” already, and “we” have mapped out many scenarios.

We already know that a margin call on the debt-addicted american society (nay, the human race) was long overdue. The question no one has asked yet (though everyone has a ready answer for this already), is the most important one "WHY NOW??? Why not 4 years later? why not earlier?

Legatus has been draining the markets for a long long time. What purpose is served by letting things come to a head NOW? And did you know that PAt Robertson (owner of a diamond mine in the congo btw) has been wise to the situation right since gold was under 300$ an ounce?

HE was buying gold way before Russian billionaires began converting their assets?
There is one master link between all the events occurring!

And a simpler question to answer “What would a person who OWNS significant stock of a brokerage company say to someone instigating people to stay AT CASH?”

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
I KNOW that Legatus controls the US markets, as a result of the governments decision to back faith-based groups indiscriminately. Visit http://www.legatus.org for more information.

What people do not realize is that “legatus” is NOT composed of HUMAN BEINGS alone but is an alliance (this I will discuss in a separate thread)

You should know that I will NOT give up my crown as ‘Craziest Person on PWI’ without a fight, sir! You have thrown down the gauntlet!! Let the battle commence!! (j/k…maybe…) :wink:
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I send out two monthly newsletters (one free - fledgling version-, the other is subscription - for advanced speculators) discussing world economics, precious metal speculation, hybrid investment practices, small cap trading and information on theo-financial cults.

It also gives you access to my weekly blog. This newsletter will give you a complete roadmap to the future. IMO.
Give me a few minutes and I’ll PM you the address.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
So what are some “rational” investment/market websites that you guys read?[/quote]

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I am really amazed, how is it that nobody has said anything about the financial astrology part yet?

Honestly, while I didn’t think it was at all likely what he was saying would happen, at least it wasn’t a complete and utter crock like astrology.

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I am not the only one who’s connecting the dots obviously. I even gave a link to a video by one of my buds when I called the Black Monday here. I am not the MEssiah…but any rational person can connect the dots and see whats happening here.

[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
Tribunaldude don’t claim YOU yourself are calling the bank holiday.

RainJack I’m not saying I agree with anything, this is the site he is thing he is citing…

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/aad550b590f931bf/2000139928d2d434

on there some guy has his own website and actually did predict September 15th… tibunaldude did not predict it himself.

He’s also claiming the infamous… Israel will attack Iran and Bush will take over supreme power and end the elections and not give power to the next president… we will be in war and the economy will be FAIL.

…

I’m shutting off my internet[/quote]

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For fuck’s sake, read my posts properly.
I got that information from Entheogens on the financial astrology sites (as he will confirm). I said I didn;t understand it myself but that financial astrologers have a fairly accurate idea of how it will all unfold (especially nailing the 16 year bear market), and that I am currently trying to understand everything.

[quote]fraggle wrote:
I am really amazed, how is it that nobody has said anything about the financial astrology part yet?

Honestly, while I didn’t think it was at all likely what he was saying would happen, at least it wasn’t a complete and utter crock like astrology.[/quote]

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And the video I quoted in my post on Black Monday MENTIONS reinhart and his posts (his account was blocked, and he only speaks to a select few like me)

Don;t try to put words in my mouth. I am but an emissary.

[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
Tribunaldude don’t claim YOU yourself are calling the bank holiday.

RainJack I’m not saying I agree with anything, this is the site he is thing he is citing…

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/aad550b590f931bf/2000139928d2d434

on there some guy has his own website and actually did predict September 15th… tibunaldude did not predict it himself.

He’s also claiming the infamous… Israel will attack Iran and Bush will take over supreme power and end the elections and not give power to the next president… we will be in war and the economy will be FAIL.

…

I’m shutting off my internet[/quote]

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And for anyone who is interested, the third member of our group is the great gold/silver speculator John Perez. Go ahead, google reinhart and precious.

I again remind everyone, that I am AN EMISSARY!

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Somebody just jumped the “weird as fuck” shark.

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
First of all, I will be happy to be wrong here. I called the black monday on all the boards I post on, and also the 15th september collapse (albeit on a different board). Did anyone visit the website of legatus yet?
http://www.legatus.org

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You’re saying you called it.

EDIT: If you’re predicting this and not throwing darts on a calendar then go to the media.

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I called it on the boards I post on. I do not post on yahoo and google finance. Reinhart, precious and I take turns on online forums. We also have separate newsletters.

And read page 2 of this thread where I specifically mention I did NOT predict the october surprise and that I was a messenger. Rainjack replied to that post so you’ll know i didn’t change it.

[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
First of all, I will be happy to be wrong here. I called the black monday on all the boards I post on, and also the 15th september collapse (albeit on a different board). Did anyone visit the website of legatus yet?
http://www.legatus.org

You’re saying you called it. [/quote]

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My crystal ball tells me you know more than you’re letting on.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Maybe we could buy some now, then hoard them until we need them. Or, we could run down the street wielding clubs and torches and loot the local Dominoes. [/quote]

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
I called it on the boards I post on. I do not post on yahoo and google finance. Reinhart, precious and I take turns on online forums. We also have separate newsletters.

And read page 2 of this thread where I specifically mention I did NOT predict the october surprise and that I was a messenger. Rainjack replied to that post so you’ll know i didn’t change it.

MidDistanceMac wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
First of all, I will be happy to be wrong here. I called the black monday on all the boards I post on, and also the 15th september collapse (albeit on a different board). Did anyone visit the website of legatus yet?
http://www.legatus.org

You’re saying you called it.

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No I saw and I’ll admit that you aren’t taking credit for the October Surprise.

But why aren’t you going to the media if you have such proof?

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[quote]Christine wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
The Mage wrote:
rainjack wrote:

I don’t do secret society bullshit.

I do. In fact I am starting a secret society right now. (Shhhhh.)

Who wants to join up?

Will there be food at the meetings?

Lots and lots of delicious booze and I’m there.

I don’t like to be sober when I’m around crazy people.[/quote]

That’s funny because I don’t like to be crazy around sober people.

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All you need to do is find a new moon in the fall and call a crash. Duh! People have been doing that for years. I did it this year too. I also did it a couple years ago, but I was wrong.

It’s pretty easy to call a crash in a confirmed bear market on any particular day. If you’re wrong, you just say “I was off a day or two.”

What you’ve completely ignored is the fact that the world comes to end in December of 2012, so none of this matters anyway.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Ok,but how do you know the pizza joints won’t be hoarding pizzas,or maybe even be nationalized by the time of the first meeting?

I’m really worried.

Maybe we could buy some now, then hoard them until we need them. Or, we could run down the street wielding clubs and torches and loot the local Dominoes. [/quote]

You loot the Dominoes, while I loot the fish market for wild salmon.

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No one has any proof. All we can agree on (all sides) is that things look bleak.
The bank holiday will only be confirmed when and IF it happens this october.

October surprise may well be a ploy to throw people off and give people a false sense of security when it doesn;t happen in october - so they can go ahead and land it in november when we least expect it. IF everyone keeps aside enough cash, the country will survive a "bank holiday’ with no major consequences.

Besides too many people have painted a doomsday picture and grandpa rainjack has already walled me in with the tinfoil nuts!

I beleiev that it is situations like this where we (the individual trader/investor) can actually stand up and make a solid fortune - but who will dare to enter the market with the threat of an indefinite ‘bank’ holiday and then depression looming overhead?

I believe if you pick upm some FRE and FNM now (and even LEHMQ) you can make a decent profit by December and perhaps own a small fortune when the shit clears up. But who knows WHEN the shit will clear up?

While I tell people to buy gold, i don;t expect gold to go up by more than a factor of 2 (double) unless we REALLY go into depression…and if depression is here, forget about making a fortune, first ensure you have enough to survive (and gold is the best asset to own during a depression)

[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
I called it on the boards I post on. I do not post on yahoo and google finance. Reinhart, precious and I take turns on online forums. We also have separate newsletters.

And read page 2 of this thread where I specifically mention I did NOT predict the october surprise and that I was a messenger. Rainjack replied to that post so you’ll know i didn’t change it.

MidDistanceMac wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
First of all, I will be happy to be wrong here. I called the black monday on all the boards I post on, and also the 15th september collapse (albeit on a different board). Did anyone visit the website of legatus yet?
http://www.legatus.org

You’re saying you called it.

No I saw and I’ll admit that you aren’t taking credit for the October Surprise.

But why aren’t you going to the media if you have such proof?

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[quote]fraggle wrote:
I am really amazed, how is it that nobody has said anything about the financial astrology part yet?

Honestly, while I didn’t think it was at all likely what he was saying would happen, at least it wasn’t a complete and utter crock like astrology.[/quote]

In times of turmoil, people often scapegoat — Jews, bankers, the Devil, …anything that offers an explanation that appeals to emotions.

We went into debt up to our eyeballs and now have to pay the piper. The fault is our own.