[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
SSC wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
All these people that were cheering on Bush while he wrecked their country, are now worried.
Perhaps they would have preferred McCain to finish the job?
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foreigners thinking they understand american politics.
sigh.
The only thing worse than a fereigner failing to understand American politics is an American failing to understand American politics.
I have absolutely no idea how some conservatives’ brains are so screwed up that they can object to Obama because “he could ruin our country!” when the Bush administration JUST GOT FINISHED ruining our country, and not see the disconnect there.
Because it wasn’t the Bush administration, it was years of failed politics from both sides,
people have a problem with obama because he compaigned as a democrat but previously lived his whole political life as a socialist activist, something cuts against the very grain of what America is. And with the puppet masters in house there is quick avenue to do a lot of unrepealable damage.
I think it’s hilarious how most of the Republicans around here are quick to forecast and can magically predict how Obama is going to turn the US into this heinous world to live in, even thought most of his policies probably won’t even pass. But then, when the economy of the last eight years are pointed out, they quickly dismiss it as “failed politics from both sides.” That pretty much means objectivism, which means you’re a stubborn, ignorant tool who can only see things in black and white.
“Something cuts against the very grain of what America is” - Guess what that is? Removing bipartisanship from our country. Hypocrite.
It’s also hilarious how all out liberal democrats think some how Obama is the long awaited return of the messiah.
I can generalize to its pretty easy.
I have this funny feeling the reason the economy is so bad off right now has more to do with individual choices and corporate corruption then anything the government did. The bail out bad idea…now they are helping hurt the economy, but everyone that lives in a house they can’t afford and has maxed out credit cards they are the problem not an administration.
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Free markets don’t emerge ex nihilo like Athena from Zeus’ brow, they are created and regulated explicitly and purposefully by government action. To pretend that government has no role in corporate corruption and the individual choices we are allowed to make is at best disingenuous and at worst ignorant. What’s the difference between the countries on opposite ends of the international scale of economic freedom? The answer is simply differing levels of government intervention.
The cause of our current economic woes is NOT, as some would have you believe, poor minorities buying houses they couldn’t afford (since obviously minorities are the universal conservative scapegoat). Massive government deregulation of the banks (and poor regulation), the greater availability of credit, and changing financial structures–like the ability of banks and investment banks to merge laid the groundwork for all this years ago. Sadly a lot of conservatives (Bush, McCain) and some liberals, (including Obama)saw this coming, but of course noone wanted to stop it because the whole govt is cheek to jowl with their investment banking buddies on wall street (and the others wanted to pander to future homeowners). The attempt of the elites to pass the buck for this crisis down to the average joe on the street is pathetic (and conservative efforts to blame minorities specifically are even worse). If greed is the primary motivator of capitalist economies, how can we be mad when people act with greed as their motivation? Instead we need to–gasp–put government regulations in place to make sure greed doesn’t outstrip what’s good for the economy and the American people. Greed is NOT always good. We’re not Gordon Gecko. The massive greed of bankers is ignored to pass the buck to homeowners. And then they get a bailout. Awesome. Who’s bailing out the American homeowner?
Pure capitalists would say that a capitalist society should punish risk, and those homeowners who were greedy should lose their homes, and we should allow banks to collapse. This is like economic sanctions against Iraq–hurts the people, but affects the elites not at all. We would throw thousands into the street and the economy would collapse while those responsible would get away scott free. We can’t afford to take on the risk of a capitalist society without adequate regulation because the risk is too great–we run the chance of total economic collapse, which needed to be averted via government intervention. Had we had adequate controls in place initially, this bailout wouldn’t have been necessary.
And yes, there’s adequate blame to go around to smear wall street, the pubs, the crats, the “homeowners”, Shaka Zulu, and all of us too for good measure.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.
Good man. Every patriotic American should feel this way.
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Seriously. That is a great post. We should all be hoping for the best from Obama despite our misgivings.