[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.[/quote]
I voted against Kerry and Obama.
If Obama abandons everything his life has been to this point and turns out out be the best president since Lincoln, nobody would be happier or quicker to say so than me.
I think it’s funny that Republicans have to tell themselves that people voted for Obama because they have some kind of messianic fantasy when what really happened was they saw what a wreckless reactionary McCain is and decided maybe that’s not what we need right now.
But, whatever it takes to make yourself feel good.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.
I voted against Kerry and Obama.
If Obama abandons everything his life has been to this point and turns out out be the best president since Lincoln, nobody would be happier or quicker to say so than me.[/quote]
Fixing things would be too hard and we should just stay the course and finish the country off, eh?
I don’t think you realize how ironic your statement here is–and you’re on the wrong side of it. Not that I’m surprised.
Why don’t we get back to a Republican controlled congress and a Democratic president.
This mess we are in…no the country is not ruined. Too fatalist. Are people going to vote for more change and sweep out incumbents and vote in conservative check writers?
Barack Hussein Obama a.k.a Barry Soteoro, aka Barry Dunham. Reared and educated in the white suburbs and private schools provided for by his grandparents.
Why is Barry hiding his college transcripts? Why is he hiding his tangible birth certificate?
Why has he hired an Attorney General who granted pardons to Mark Rich (on the FBI’s most wanted list,) and the Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN?
Why does his whitehouse cousel consist of lawyers who defended the assassin who tried to kill Ronald Reagan.
Just who is Barack Husssein Obama? Meet the new boss same as the old boss! (Welcome home Hillary, Bill Richardson, John Podesta, Rahm Emanuel, and of course Joe Biden. It’s like you guys never left.) “Change you can believe in?” When will the poor little marxists ever learn? Barack will make certain each and every American gets a loaf of stale bread, cheap vodka, and a slice of cheese. Only then will the Bolshevik be satisfied.
[quote]chilco wrote:
Barack Hussein Obama a.k.a Barry Soteoro, aka Barry Dunham. Reared and educated in the white suburbs and private schools provided for by his grandparents.
Why is Barry hiding his college transcripts? Why is he hiding his tangible birth certificate?
Why has he hired an Attorney General who granted pardons to Mark Rich (on the FBI’s most wanted list,) and the Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN?
Why does his whitehouse cousel consist of lawyers who defended the assassin who tried to kill Ronald Reagan.
Just who is Barack Husssein Obama? Meet the new boss same as the old boss! (Welcome home Hillary, Bill Richardson, John Podesta, Rahm Emanuel, and of course Joe Biden. It’s like you guys never left.) “Change you can believe in?” When will the poor little marxists ever learn? Barack will make certain each and every American gets a loaf of stale bread, cheap vodka, and a slice of cheese. Only then will the Bolshevik be satisfied.[/quote]
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Hes got some nasty friends, I wish people would look more in betwean the lines.
[quote]Drizzt wrote:
chilco wrote:
Barack Hussein Obama a.k.a Barry Soteoro, aka Barry Dunham. Reared and educated in the white suburbs and private schools provided for by his grandparents.
Why is Barry hiding his college transcripts? Why is he hiding his tangible birth certificate?
Why has he hired an Attorney General who granted pardons to Mark Rich (on the FBI’s most wanted list,) and the Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN?
Why does his whitehouse cousel consist of lawyers who defended the assassin who tried to kill Ronald Reagan.
Just who is Barack Husssein Obama? Meet the new boss same as the old boss! (Welcome home Hillary, Bill Richardson, John Podesta, Rahm Emanuel, and of course Joe Biden. It’s like you guys never left.) “Change you can believe in?” When will the poor little marxists ever learn? Barack will make certain each and every American gets a loaf of stale bread, cheap vodka, and a slice of cheese. Only then will the Bolshevik be satisfied.
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Hes got some nasty friends, I wish people would look more in betwean the lines.
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how would democrats get elected?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.[/quote]
Good man. Every patriotic American should feel this way.
[quote]Drizzt wrote:
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Your screen name is awesome.
Thanks
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.
Good man. Every patriotic American should feel this way.
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One of the other forums I follow (Warrior Talk) is sponsored by one of the most hard core, Christian, gun trainers out there (Gabe Suarez). Before the election there were dozens of screeching anti-Obama, tin-foil hat, conspiracy posts. Warrior Talk didn’t do much to moderate them. After the election, he clamped down and noted:
"One Source Tactical and Suarez International are patriots and loyal Americans. We will not condone, in any way shape or form, any anti-american or anti-government discussion here, nor will we engage in any.
We know the elections have created some turmoil in the industry, but that does not justify any of the things we mentioned above. As I said, we support our government and its officials, as all good americans should, and that is that."
I’ve got great respect for their position and I’m going to try to apply that to my own postings on T-Nation. Having said that, the Constitution and its application is fertile ground for rational discussion.
Oh yeah, Robert Rubin, Clinton’s Treasury secretary and a major player in the current Citibank debacle, is now a key player on Obama’s transition team. Hopefully he makes some better decisions in his new role.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.
Good man. Every patriotic American should feel this way.
One of the other forums I follow (Warrior Talk) is sponsored by one of the most hard core, Christian, gun trainers out there (Gabe Suarez). Before the election there were dozens of screeching anti-Obama, tin-foil hat, conspiracy posts. Warrior Talk didn’t do much to moderate them. After the election, he clamped down and noted:
"One Source Tactical and Suarez International are patriots and loyal Americans. We will not condone, in any way shape or form, any anti-american or anti-government discussion here, nor will we engage in any.
We know the elections have created some turmoil in the industry, but that does not justify any of the things we mentioned above. As I said, we support our government and its officials, as all good americans should, and that is that."
I’ve got great respect for their position and I’m going to try to apply that to my own postings on T-Nation. Having said that, the Constitution and its application is fertile ground for rational discussion.
Oh yeah, Robert Rubin, Clinton’s Treasury secretary and a major player in the current Citibank debacle, is now a key player on Obama’s transition team. Hopefully he makes some better decisions in his new role.
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I have no respect for that position, whatsoever because it equates the government with America, even though people like Jefferson went to great lengths to protect America from its government.
Pretending as if there was no difference between America, the ideal, its people and its government is dangerously short-sighted.
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.
I voted against Kerry and Obama.
If Obama abandons everything his life has been to this point and turns out out be the best president since Lincoln, nobody would be happier or quicker to say so than me.
Fixing things would be too hard and we should just stay the course and finish the country off, eh?
I don’t think you realize how ironic your statement here is–and you’re on the wrong side of it. Not that I’m surprised.
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Oh we will be staying the course alright. Our problems are the result of decades of creeping nanny state socialism including during the Bush years. Obama and his comrades in congress will just throw the nitrous switch.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
I voted for Bush and McCain…I hope Obama turns out to be the best president since Lincoln.
I voted against Kerry and Obama.
If Obama abandons everything his life has been to this point and turns out out be the best president since Lincoln, nobody would be happier or quicker to say so than me.
Fixing things would be too hard and we should just stay the course and finish the country off, eh?
I don’t think you realize how ironic your statement here is–and you’re on the wrong side of it. Not that I’m surprised.
Oh we will be staying the course alright. Our problems are the result of decades of creeping nanny state socialism including during the Bush years. Obama and his comrades in congress will just throw the nitrous switch.[/quote]
Yup.
"What of the US Treasury Secretary nominee Mr Geithner? Currently serving as the 9th President of the New York Fed, has he come from a background that would bring change?
After he finished an MA in Failed Keynesian based International Economics he went to work for Henry “King maker” Kissinger at Kissinger and Associates in Washington, followed by a stint at the US Treasury, culminating as Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs until 2002.
He then moved onto the Council on Foreign Relations joining the International Economics department before being appointed to his current role in 2003, becoming the Vice Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee as well as the President of the New York Fed.
He is also the Chairman of the committee on Payment and Settlement Systems with the Bank for International Settlements. He was instrumental in the bailout of Bear Stearns and allowing Lehmann to disintegrate.
We have a life long staffer, a peddler of influence and failed economic theory, a man who has never worked in the financial system outside of Government circles."
And black people were dancing in the streets…“We beat whitey! One of our own is Prez!” Fucking fools.
Failed?
I hear people talking a lot about failed this and that when they have absolutely nothing to base those claims on.
People can easily crash a car if they want, any many do by accident, but somehow it still isn’t a failed mode of transportation.
Strange.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And black people were dancing in the streets…“We beat whitey! One of our own is Prez!” Fucking fools.
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You really like to keep your ear to the ground when it comes to what black people are doing don’t you?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Failed?
I hear people talking a lot about failed this and that when they have absolutely nothing to base those claims on.
People can easily crash a car if they want, any many do by accident, but somehow it still isn’t a failed mode of transportation.
Strange.[/quote]
Oh please.
Stagflation and the 70s.
Downright impossible according to Keynesian economics.
Keynesianism is as dead as the Dodo.
But hey, here is some Keynes for you:
"Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some." [...]
"Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
[quote]vroom wrote:
Failed?
I hear people talking a lot about failed this and that when they have absolutely nothing to base those claims on.
People can easily crash a car if they want, any many do by accident, but somehow it still isn’t a failed mode of transportation.
Strange.[/quote]
Stay with me here for a minute. When PEOPLE crash a car it is not the fault of the car. If there is a defect in the car that causes the crash the reason is a flawed specimen, not a failed concept. Untold millions of automobiles have been operated for a century with no crashes caused by themselves demonstrating that the foundational idea is sound and that either operator error or shortcomings in manufacturing are required for disaster.
In the case of monetary collectivism the concept itself has been the bearer of results ranging from far inferior to the capitalism of the United States to outright murderous fascist tyranny every single time it’s been tried. We are pursuing it at our own mortal peril and are in the midst of an object lesson on this very thing.
Countries are or become weaker or stronger in direct proportion to the degree to which they embrace or reject capitalism and socialism respectively. Hence we are getting weaker as we adopt a more socialist ideology and China is getting stronger as they ironically inject some capitalism into their communist society.
Think about it.
I think the thing Republicans are most jealous about is that we actually liked our candidate. I know all you “back to the gold standard” humps can’t believe your boy screwed the pooch so mightily that we’ve been sent back to an era of Keynesian economics. I say let’s give Barack’s notions of transparency and fair play their due.
I’d like to see the weaker dollar attracting more manufacturing jobs back to this country. I’d like it if we quit imprisoning Chinese goatherds in Guantanamo. Hell, I’d even like it if we could just get new cars up to 35 mpg. They say I’m a dreamer…but I’m not the only one…
[quote]Amused59 wrote:
I think the thing Republicans are most jealous about is that we actually liked our candidate. I know all you “back to the gold standard” humps can’t believe your boy screwed the pooch so mightily that we’ve been sent back to an era of Keynesian economics. I say let’s give Barack’s notions of transparency and fair play their due.
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That is so wrong, on so many levels, that I am actually impressed that you could fit that into one paragraph.