Glad I’m not the only person that got REALLY pissed off…
Dave Tate ate 12,000 or so calories at his peak weight in the 300 pounds. Doesn’t sound like he had some magical efficiency to me.
From my own personal experience, I need to eat alot more when I work out.
Who pays for this kind of junk Science?
I’d like to discuss that article quoting Ravussin. Where/how can I start a new thread, or can we discuss here? BTW, I am new, know almost nothing, and understand some of what they said (at least) is wrong. However, I want to learn more…
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
I really don’t want to flame, as you’ve got good spirit, but some things in one of your posts jumped out at me.
bitenose wrote:
at 185 lbs, I think enough muscular density/mass to warrant myself getting shredded just based on the fact that I am able to lift very heavy.
While this is an ok thought, the following statement completely contradicts it-
To give you some idea of my current strength, I currently squat 315x10, bench 225x10, and deadlift 335x10 (if that helps)…
For your height and weight those are decent beginner numbers. Certainly not worthy of calling yourself “muscular enough.” Be realistic as to why you are doing the diet, because I honestly don’t believe you have the muscle mass to actually get ripped only skinnier.
From another post:
bitenose wrote:
Oh okay… hmm, well I never really thought about THAT critically, as I was under the impression that carbs were okay as long as it was kept under <100 g a day.
The only reason the milk fits into your calcs is because you are somehow using a calorie and carb free fiber supplement. There is no way you’d be under 100g with milk and the flax seed suggested in the original article.
That still doesn’t mean you should drink it, even PWO (as there is no reason to add it to Surge). If you’re not using Surge then PWO for milk is ok.[/quote]
Really? I don’t believe those numbers for one second. If the guy in that pic can squat 315x10, I’ll shit in my hat.
Day 8: January 27th
Quick update: I’m down 6 pounds since I started the diet. I look and feel much better. I have not gone down in any of my lifts. Shannon says my hair is softer, I’ll take her word for it, must be a result of all the flax/styrian pumpkin seed/fish oil…
I picked up some chicharrones because I’ve really been missing spicy food… It’s basically pork fat with the skin attached, fried in and of itself, seasoned with red pepper and salt… This will be my meal for the week: 320 calories, 20g fat, 32g protein, 0 carbs.
Semi-update:
Added a photo for week 1 and added a slide show to show progress:
Got a total-body workout to do, blog coming later…
Oh, also a friend of mine is doing the V-diet, starting today… He is ~220 pounds and should show results much better than me… His profile is at: JP BURNS (jpburns) on Myspace
Day 9: January 28th
I woke up at like 11am today, awesome… I got on the scale this morning and was up about 1 pound, probably from salt/water retention as a result of bringing my salt levels back yesterday… I took a picture with my piece of crap digital camera that needs a new pair of AA batteries every 5-10 pictures and posted it on myspace. I’ve also updated my page a bit…
The workout went beautifully… Went up 10 pounds on squat, 20 pounds on deadlift, 10 pounds on dumbell bench press, 5 pounds on db tricep lift, 10 pounds on preacher curl… Of course, in the process of increasing my weights, my reps went down, but I should be able to push out an extra rep with these weights within the next couple workouts. Had energy to do everything else today without any problems… Did some inclined pushups, swiss ball crunches, and stretched for 10 min at the end of my workout…
[quote]Really? I don’t believe those numbers for one second. If the guy in that pic can squat 315x10, I’ll shit in my hat.
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I don’t really believe him either, but hey some people are super freaks. By the looks of the picture, he also looks about 16-17% bf rather than the 12ish he suggested.
[quote]By the looks of the picture, he also looks about 16-17% bf rather than the 12ish he suggested.
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Tanita scale said 16% before I started bulking, anthropomorphic measurements said 7%, so I sort of averaged them roughly then rounded up… Best way to conclusively determine bodyfat is dissection, but until then, i’ll just use bf% determinations (by any means) as a completely objective metric to gauge progress going forward and take the ego part out of determination.
With the lifts, I’ve heard comments like that before and will just say that my numbers really have no correlation to my self-esteem or ego, so I will respect the fact that you feel you have enough experience to make such an assessment and just leave it at that.
Pretty good progress for someone who doesn’t need to lose a ton of weight. Keep it up. Your update to your myspace page is hilarious. “Put em’ in a body bag!”
Thanks Nothingface, I will!
Day 10: January 29th
The newness of this diet has gone away, I’ve settled into this routine and I can feel myself taking control of my eating habits. If I ever was, I am no longer a slave to my food.
I started this diet in January, not from a New Year resolution, but because I didn’t want it to interrupt the busy season as far as work and school is concerned. Since I am receiving my engineering degree this year, making the transition from intern to employee with one company, and working as a consultant for another company, I wanted the diet to occur during a period where I didn’t have a great deal of deadlines.
But to be honest, this diet has made my time management even more effective and hasn’t had an adverse impact on any other areas of my life. I’ve got my feeding times down to an exact science and schedule and I can feel alot of that momentum transferring to other areas of my life. I’ve always been pretty good at managing my time and getting things done, but I feel like its been kicked up a few notches.
Also, the lack of carbs in this diet has not affected my baseline energy levels and critical thinking abilities as far as work/school is concerned. I still feel sharp and highly motivated to be as productive as possible. It feels great to be in control of my time. Because time has no power over me, my life is much less stressful than it should be, I am free to prioritize my wants/needs, and there is no sense of impending doom.
For cardio, I’d really love to go swimming today… I need to get back to work so that I can make that happen…
Holy shit we go to the same school.
I skipped a couple pages of your thread but I would love to see some videos of you squatting 315 for 10.
a GaTech student? Pleased to meet you.
[quote]bitenose wrote:
a GaTech student? Pleased to meet you.[/quote]
What time do you usually go to the CRC, I’m in there TR @ 5:30ish.
[quote]themonthofjun wrote:
bitenose wrote:
a GaTech student? Pleased to meet you.
What time do you usually go to the CRC, I’m in there TR @ 5:30ish.[/quote]
Last year(semester) at tech, so I am commuting this time around. I go to the Gold’s gym in Marietta/Kennesaw most of the time. I only go to the SAC maybe once or twice a week during odd hours or if I’m lonewolfing my workout…
But I’m sure I’ve probably seen you there before… Back when I did splits, I’d spend 2-3 hours a day at the gym and was there quite frequently over the past few years.
Day 11: January 30th
Today I upped my HOT-ROX dose to 2/1, I was definitely feeling jittery, but I noticed my appetite was suppressed even more. Today was one of those days where everything seemed to just flow. I was productive and getting things done on time. The workout was nice and intense… I changed things up a little bit, so as not to stagnate on the same old exercises. I also changed the order a bit.
I have been going to bed way too late recently. I think it is partly due to the stimulants and partly due to having a lot of work to do. I am going to try to get to bed at 10:30-11:00 tonight…
Day 12: January 31st
I have always brought my best to everything I’ve been involved with because I know that EVERYTHING IS PRACTICE FOR THE REAL SHOW. I’ll hear all these guys saying stuff like “I slack off at my job because it’s not MY OWN business, and someday when I have my own business I’ll be a big pimp millionaire with bitches and cars and blah blah blah…” But hold on a second, YOUR WORK IS A REFLECTION OF WHO YOU ARE. EVERYTHING YOU DO. EVERYTHING.
When I woke up this morning I didn’t jump on the scale, I didn’t measure my body fat %,… tbh, I didn’t even look in the mirror. I sprung out of bed, popped a couple of HOT-ROX, ran downstairs to gulp down a protein shake, and immediately got to work. The perfect body can never be achieved, it is a fool’s journey, a red-herring if you will.
The mind will put itself several milestones ahead of where we stand currently and it’s easy to develop a defeatist mentality or create a love/hate relationship between what you’re doing and what you want. Don’t block out the negative thoughts, pain, sacrifice, or denial that you feel, because it exists for a reason. There is never an end or equilibrium point in life, you’re either growing or you’re dying.
If you’re not enjoying and passionate about every waking moment in life, if you’re living by someone else’s standards, or if you’re working just to make money, then I’m sorry, but you’re a slave. To me, I regard this distinction as life and death. Putting anything less than 100% out into the world is completely disrespectful toward yourself.
I can’t even play a child’s videogame as a game. My pupils dilate, my mind calculates thousands of possibilities, and I take every step necessary to achieve perfection and dominance… Maybe I need to lighten up. I don’t think I ever will, though.
Note to readers, I would be much obliged if anyone feels qualified to help me in regard to the inquiry I have posted under this day’s blog. Thanks.
Day 13: February 1st
Today’s update is coming a little early. Today’s exercise is going to be indoor rock climbing. Going to lift weights on Friday/Sunday. I really had a craving for sardines or salmon last night, but I went ahead and stuck with the outlined V-diet plan. I will probably do something like fish and brocolli as my solid meal on Saturday.
Regarding my post-February 17th plans. Yes, I am going to bulk. At my current rate, I will probably be about 165 lbs at the end of my V-diet. I plan on bulking at a moderate pace, so as not to accumulate too much fat on my run up to 200. Although I have a decent amount of height and shoulder width, I do have a relatively small and slender frame, so I am going to have to be methodical regarding my bulk in order to ensure proportionality. As such, I am going to do some overloading when it comes to working on my calfs(gastrocnemius) and forearms.
This is where I need your help, oh dear readers of my dry, boring-ass blog. I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself in regard to planning, but I want to make sure that I hit the ground running when I start bulking. I need some recommendations in regard to exercises I can perform that will help to build forearm/calf size/strength will minimize hurting my progress on deadlifts/pullups and all other exercises.
I’m thinking of using these two devices during off days… Or should I do them on training days either pre/post workout?
forearm devices I am considering:
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As for calfs/calves, gastrocnemius, damnit, whatever… I really only know the bread and butter… Doing the standing/seated calf raise at the gym as well as high-intensity hill/mountain training with cardio… I’m sure these will suffice, but does anyone know what pattern would induce hypertrophy? My calvvvvveeffess are relatively strong, but due to my Belgian/Northern European heritage, the length of my shinbone gives an illusion of 12-year-old schoolgirl calfffffsss
[quote]bitenose wrote:
I need some recommendations in regard to exercises I can perform that will help to build forearm/calf size/strength will minimize hurting my progress on deadlifts/pullups and all other exercises.[/quote]
When you specialize one muscle group, you have to recognize other groups will only be maintained. So if you go on a forearm specialization plan, just recognize that your deadlift will “suffer” because your forearms will be fried. To mitigate this, use straps when you deadlift.
Of course, if you look at bodybuilding at a project involving YEARS (if not decades) of work, you’ll realize that what happens to your deadlift over a 4-6 week period is trivial.
Still want to harp on video’s of your lifts w/ proof it’s you.