Norway Shooting/Bombing

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I’d vote against execution too. No death penalty in the European Union please!

Also, this guy is a mine of information. They could milk him for years. I really, really recommend reading his manifesto. Not the ideology part, but the planning and stuff.

EDIT : He went to buy the weapons to Prague from weapon dealers and failed, so he got the weapons legally in Norway.

EDIT#2 : I’m finding answers to most questions we had in this same thread :

"I have been thinking about my post-operational situation, in case I survive a successful mission and live to stand a multiculturalist trial. When I wake up at the hospital, after surviving the gunshot wounds inflicted on me, I realize at least for me personally, I will be waking up to a world of shit, a living nightmare. Not only will all my friends and family detest me and call me a monster; the united global multiculturalist media will have their hands full figuring out multiple ways to character assassinate, vilify and demonize. They will possibly do everything they can to distort the truth about me, KT and our true objectives, and attempt to make even revolutionary conservatives detest me. They will label me as a racist, fascist, Nazi-monster as they usually do with everyone who opposes multiculturalism/cultural Marxism. However, since I manifest their worst nightmare (systematical and organized executions of multiculturalist traitors), they will probably just give me the full propaganda rape package and propagate the following accusations: pedophile, engaged in incest activities, homosexual, psycho, ADHD, thief, non-educated, inbred, maniac, insane, monster etc. I will be labeled as the biggest (Nazi-)monster ever witnessed since WW2. "

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[quote]Amonero wrote:

First, because people were screaming about a muslim attack without any evidence pointing to that

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I agree with everything you say except the above. It’s not fair. All that was known at the time was that it was a coordinated car bomb/civilian shooting massacre in Norway and that a Jihadist group had claimed responsbility. Anyone who suspected/believed yet another Jihadist attack was completely justified in their expectation based on the information available and recent historical precedents.

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[quote]Amonero wrote:

As for punishment, he’ll get 21 years of prison, the most severe punishment the Norwegian judicial sysmtem allows for. He may get custody after that to protect him from reprocussions.

Bear in mind, a Norwegian prison is more like a hotel, with tv in the rooms, computer access, frequent recreational activities and excursions, and the best medical and psychiatric care. The tragedy is, as much as this man has already cost society, he will continue to cost more than what all the family members of the massacred combined will get in help for the rest of their lives. And they will have to pay for his protection, food and shelter.

95 dead and 97 wounded so far.[/quote]

… and no doubt he will write a book about it while incarcerated, which will make him a lot of money.

Prison will not be punishment for this guy, unless we take away his soap box.

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It’s strange. He was supposed to perform his attack in Autumn, not now.

22nd July :

"This is going to be an all-or-nothing scenario. If I fail to generate acceptable precious metals yields, in combination with swift initiation of the capitalization for securing the areas I will be heavily indebted. I must complete capitalization of the mineral extraction project within August at latest! When I have the required seed capital I will have enough funds to employ the services of professional blasting engineers.

If all fails, I will initiate my career with a private security firm in conflict zones to acquire maximum funds in the shortest period of time to repay the debts.

First coming costume party this autumn, dress up as a police officer. Arrive with insignias:-) Will be awesome as people will be very astonished:-)"

EDIT : The manifesto comes with detailed information on how prepare all explosives and even a time guide to have everything prepared, by yourself, in 29 days.

Oh my…

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Man I hope someone does something horrible to this guy in prison. I doubt this guy will ever live any thing remotely close to a peaceful existence any more. He doesn’t deserve to be alive. If I was a cop at the scene when he was apprehended I would have capped him right there and then. I wouldn’t even contemplate the consequences, a sicko like this can only do more harm alive.

But then again I respect the peacefulness and truly Christian beliefs of the Norwegian people. Their suppression of rage and understanding that violence on violence doesn’t solve anything truly exemplifies TRUE Christian principles - not the twisted ideology of this psycho.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Amonero wrote:

First, because people were screaming about a muslim attack without any evidence pointing to that

[/quote]

I agree with everything you say except the above. It’s not fair. All that was known at the time was that it was a coordinated car bomb/civilian shooting massacre in Norway and that a Jihadist group had claimed responsbility. Anyone who suspected/believed yet another Jihadist attack was completely justified in their expectation based on the information available and recent historical precedents.[/quote]

No. The Norwegian media was very conservative, they called it a terrorist attack, which they shouldn’t have, but no Muslim groups claimed responsibility. The group in question, Ansar al-jihad al-alami, said the reason for the event was our presence in Afghanistan and publishing drawings of Muhammed. They also said they had warned about attacks of this kind after Stockholm, but any informed reader should know this always happens after events such as this, and showing support is by no means the same as being responsible.

It went as far as muslim and other with coloured skin being harassed in the streets - it is scary how ignorant fear can make people. Even after it was known that the killer was a sacndinavian, the American media speculated that he might me recruited by islamist groups, or brainwashed.

It was a classical case of fear-induced mass hysteria, and when you start pointing fingers randomly based on past events and close your eyes to the actualities, you risk doing unjustified harm by acting out those fears.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
I’d vote against execution too. No death penalty in the European Union please!

Also, this guy is a mine of information. They could milk him for years. I really, really recommend reading his manifesto. Not the ideology part, but the planning and stuff.

EDIT : He went to buy the weapons to Prague from weapon dealers and failed, so he got the weapons legally in Norway.

EDIT#2 : I’m finding answers to most questions we had in this same thread :

"I have been thinking about my post-operational situation, in case I survive a successful mission and live to stand a multiculturalist trial. When I wake up at the hospital, after surviving the gunshot wounds inflicted on me, I realize at least for me personally, I will be waking up to a world of shit, a living nightmare. Not only will all my friends and family detest me and call me a monster; the united global multiculturalist media will have their hands full figuring out multiple ways to character assassinate, vilify and demonize. They will possibly do everything they can to distort the truth about me, KT and our true objectives, and attempt to make even revolutionary conservatives detest me. They will label me as a racist, fascist, Nazi-monster as they usually do with everyone who opposes multiculturalism/cultural Marxism. However, since I manifest their worst nightmare (systematical and organized executions of multiculturalist traitors), they will probably just give me the full propaganda rape package and propagate the following accusations: pedophile, engaged in incest activities, homosexual, psycho, ADHD, thief, non-educated, inbred, maniac, insane, monster etc. I will be labeled as the biggest (Nazi-)monster ever witnessed since WW2. "[/quote]

This shit is scary as fuck. He is a psychological enigma and maybe that’s putting it lightly. Psychologists will be flocking to get into this guy’s head. From my own vantage point I can’t comprehend how he can pen his ideas so concisely yet be so detached from valuing human life.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I’d vote against execution too. No death penalty in the European Union please!

Also, this guy is a mine of information. They could milk him for years. I really, really recommend reading his manifesto. Not the ideology part, but the planning and stuff.

EDIT : He went to buy the weapons to Prague from weapon dealers and failed, so he got the weapons legally in Norway.

EDIT#2 : I’m finding answers to most questions we had in this same thread :

"I have been thinking about my post-operational situation, in case I survive a successful mission and live to stand a multiculturalist trial. When I wake up at the hospital, after surviving the gunshot wounds inflicted on me, I realize at least for me personally, I will be waking up to a world of shit, a living nightmare. Not only will all my friends and family detest me and call me a monster; the united global multiculturalist media will have their hands full figuring out multiple ways to character assassinate, vilify and demonize. They will possibly do everything they can to distort the truth about me, KT and our true objectives, and attempt to make even revolutionary conservatives detest me. They will label me as a racist, fascist, Nazi-monster as they usually do with everyone who opposes multiculturalism/cultural Marxism. However, since I manifest their worst nightmare (systematical and organized executions of multiculturalist traitors), they will probably just give me the full propaganda rape package and propagate the following accusations: pedophile, engaged in incest activities, homosexual, psycho, ADHD, thief, non-educated, inbred, maniac, insane, monster etc. I will be labeled as the biggest (Nazi-)monster ever witnessed since WW2. "[/quote]

This shit is scary as fuck. He is a psychological enigma and maybe that’s putting it lightly. Psychologists will be flocking to get into this guy’s head. From my own vantage point I can’t comprehend how he can pen his ideas so concisely yet be so detached from valuing human life.
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Simple - the people he killed were those who in the future would destroy the lives of all Norwegians by enabling islamists and the eradication of the european culture.

he wasn’t killing people - he was preventing the eradication of Norway.

In his own reality, that is.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I suppose the thread there will have political discussions about it, which I rather avoid.

[/quote]
it immediately turned into “the Muslims did it!!” but lets not go there and talk about the topic at hand… (well, I guess I went there already, oh well).[/quote]

Yep.

The guy is being interrogated and I’m sure he’ll be proud of what he did and will talk lots, so we will have all information at hand very soon.

EDIT : Bit silly question, but I’m curious. I’ve read that the guy liked to play Call of Duty. Anyone who has used assault rifles, would playing Call of Duty teach you anything about shooting? Can you learn how to use an assault rifle by yourself?[/quote]

He got his weapons legally. To get that in norway you need to go through training, and certification

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[quote]Amonero wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Amonero wrote:

First, because people were screaming about a muslim attack without any evidence pointing to that

[/quote]

I agree with everything you say except the above. It’s not fair. All that was known at the time was that it was a coordinated car bomb/civilian shooting massacre in Norway and that a Jihadist group had claimed responsbility. Anyone who suspected/believed yet another Jihadist attack was completely justified in their expectation based on the information available and recent historical precedents.[/quote]

No. The Norwegian media was very conservative, they called it a terrorist attack, which they shouldn’t have, but no Muslim groups claimed responsibility. The group in question, Ansar al-jihad al-alami, said the reason for the event was our presence in Afghanistan and publishing drawings of Muhammed. They also said they had warned about attacks of this kind after Stockholm, but any informed reader should know this always happens after events such as this, and showing support is by no means the same as being responsible.

It went as far as muslim and other with coloured skin being harassed in the streets - it is scary how ignorant fear can make people. Even after it was known that the killer was a sacndinavian, the American media speculated that he might me recruited by islamist groups, or brainwashed.

It was a classical case of fear-induced mass hysteria, and when you start pointing fingers randomly based on past events and close your eyes to the actualities, you risk doing unjustified harm by acting out those fears.
[/quote]

Any ‘fear-induced mass hysteria’ that resulted was entirely due to the terror and propaganda of Islamic fundamentalists. Like I said, there are literally WEEKLY attacks like this committed by Jihadists. It bears all the hallmarks of a Jihadist attack; coordinated vehicle bomb and small arms massacre of civilians. A Jihadist group ‘associated’ itself with the attack and claimed themselves it was a Jihadist attack. You cannot blame anyone for believing that it was.

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[quote]JonDoh wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I suppose the thread there will have political discussions about it, which I rather avoid.

[/quote]
it immediately turned into “the Muslims did it!!” but lets not go there and talk about the topic at hand… (well, I guess I went there already, oh well).[/quote]

Yep.

The guy is being interrogated and I’m sure he’ll be proud of what he did and will talk lots, so we will have all information at hand very soon.

EDIT : Bit silly question, but I’m curious. I’ve read that the guy liked to play Call of Duty. Anyone who has used assault rifles, would playing Call of Duty teach you anything about shooting? Can you learn how to use an assault rifle by yourself?[/quote]

He got his weapons legally. To get that in norway you need to go through training, and certification
[/quote]

1 year as a member of a collector’s club, two years of actively collecting, a permit, and you can buy almost any semi-automatic weapon you’d like, including the ruger mini-14 used.

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[quote]JonDoh wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I suppose the thread there will have political discussions about it, which I rather avoid.

[/quote]
it immediately turned into “the Muslims did it!!” but lets not go there and talk about the topic at hand… (well, I guess I went there already, oh well).[/quote]

Yep.

The guy is being interrogated and I’m sure he’ll be proud of what he did and will talk lots, so we will have all information at hand very soon.

EDIT : Bit silly question, but I’m curious. I’ve read that the guy liked to play Call of Duty. Anyone who has used assault rifles, would playing Call of Duty teach you anything about shooting? Can you learn how to use an assault rifle by yourself?[/quote]

He got his weapons legally. To get that in norway you need to go through training, and certification
[/quote]

I know. You are few pages behind now :slight_smile:

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Amonero wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Amonero wrote:

First, because people were screaming about a muslim attack without any evidence pointing to that

[/quote]

I agree with everything you say except the above. It’s not fair. All that was known at the time was that it was a coordinated car bomb/civilian shooting massacre in Norway and that a Jihadist group had claimed responsbility. Anyone who suspected/believed yet another Jihadist attack was completely justified in their expectation based on the information available and recent historical precedents.[/quote]

No. The Norwegian media was very conservative, they called it a terrorist attack, which they shouldn’t have, but no Muslim groups claimed responsibility. The group in question, Ansar al-jihad al-alami, said the reason for the event was our presence in Afghanistan and publishing drawings of Muhammed. They also said they had warned about attacks of this kind after Stockholm, but any informed reader should know this always happens after events such as this, and showing support is by no means the same as being responsible.

It went as far as muslim and other with coloured skin being harassed in the streets - it is scary how ignorant fear can make people. Even after it was known that the killer was a sacndinavian, the American media speculated that he might me recruited by islamist groups, or brainwashed.

It was a classical case of fear-induced mass hysteria, and when you start pointing fingers randomly based on past events and close your eyes to the actualities, you risk doing unjustified harm by acting out those fears.
[/quote]

Any ‘fear-induced mass hysteria’ that resulted was entirely due to the terror and propaganda of Islamic fundamentalists. Like I said, there are literally WEEKLY attacks like this committed by Jihadists. It bears all the hallmarks of a Jihadist attack; coordinated vehicle bomb and small arms massacre of civilians. A Jihadist group ‘associated’ itself with the attack and claimed themselves it was a Jihadist attack. You cannot blame anyone for believing that it was.[/quote]

You are wrong and misinformed. Nowhere in the world are there weekly massacres of 100 people by one man and bombs blowing up government buildings. If you had read the statement made by Ansar al-jihad al-alami, you would have to have pretty low reading comprehension skills to read that as ‘associating themselves’ with the attack, or want to believe it was done by Islamists. Understand this - alot of the world’s perception of ‘terrorism’, islamism’ and ‘jihadists’ is created by the U.S government and media in collaboration - reality differs.

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Not to make light of this situation as it’s obviously tremendously serious and I feel deeply for any and all who have lost someone close to them. However, who do you think will be the first to pen a movie based on these events? Also, Anders sounds like a Batman villain that would fit right into Nolan’s re-visioning.

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[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
Not to make light of this situation as it’s obviously tremendously serious and I feel deeply for any and all who have lost someone close to them. However, who do you think will be the first to pen a movie based on these events? Also, Anders sounds like a Batman villain that would fit right into Nolan’s re-visioning.[/quote]

Let’s hope no-one finds it in them to want to profit on the massacre of nearly 100 people - although it has happened before.

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I have finished with the planning part of his manifesto.

Now I want to discover why he performed the attacks the same day he wrote the last entry and not in Fall like he planned. He also got in contact with 10000 European nationalists. I’m sure those 10000 will be contacted soon by the police…

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[quote]Amonero wrote:

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
Not to make light of this situation as it’s obviously tremendously serious and I feel deeply for any and all who have lost someone close to them. However, who do you think will be the first to pen a movie based on these events? Also, Anders sounds like a Batman villain that would fit right into Nolan’s re-visioning.[/quote]

Let’s hope no-one finds it in them to want to profit on the massacre of nearly 100 people - although it has happened before.[/quote]

It may not be set in Norway, but the antagonist will be very “European”. The film opens with him carrying out his master plan, police capture him, during interrogation he alludes to all the information he has on illegal activity based on his experiences. With his help, a lot of people are brought to justice. Plot twist, being caught was part of his master plan and he has been planning a breakout from within prison. It’s now a race between the police and time to bring the bad guy to justice again before he sets into motion another incident that makes his previous atrocity look like nothing.

Hollywood will crank that out within 5 years…

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[quote]Cal Jones wrote:
That’s unusual - shooters usually end up killing themselves.
This is a huge tragedy but unfortunately, over here in the UK, Amy Winehouse’s demise will push it off the front page in most of the newspapers. [/quote]

Yeah but this shooter think he is a part of a revolution to end multi-cultiralism in europe. He has a whole chapter detailing what to say in court, using it as a way of furthering what he call his “cause”. He wrote a lot about this and some other giberish in his book. It also carries a detailed instruction on how to make expslosive undetected in norway, and a day to day diary before the attack. There are also chapters talking about hijacking european nuclear facilities and using them as WMD, Anthrax letters, biological attacks, and how he thinks it might be possible to do it.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
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I know. You are few pages behind now :slight_smile:

[/quote]

My bad

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[quote]JonDoh wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
[

I know. You are few pages behind now :slight_smile:

[/quote]

My bad [/quote]

No worries. With his manifesto being available, there’s lots of material.

I’ve spent the entire morning in his mind…