Good luck, I’ll check your log later for an update!
Does the context matter to you?
I’d rate a forum promise really low with regards to integrity. I.e., I’d still believe a person can have some integrity, just not… online.
This isn’t a very well thought out list, more to illustrate a point,
- Someone betrays an oath
- Someone betrays a promise in a work context
- Someone betrays a promise due to extenuating circumstances
- Someone betrays a promise online
I hope you don’t mind me asking @T3hPwnisher a question too, as this is you’re thread… it’s relating to one of his points made on his post… You say you don’t have a high opinion of humanity… would you say you’re a nihilist, existential nihilist, realist? Misanthropist?
I don’t consider an online person a different person from who they are offline. Doing so has allowed me to remain more civil. It’s super easy to tear into someone when you just think of them as words and a screename, but when it’s another human on the other side of the screen, you talk to them differently. In turn, a promise made on a forum is a promise from a human.
@unreal24278 I refer to myself as a misanthrope quite often. I don’t ascribe to a specific philosophical philosophy, but I appreciate aspects of nihilism and absurdism, along with realism.
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My log is anything but orderly. Have at it. One less topic for me to visit.
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I would disagree. Integrity comes from the same root as integer, to be one person everywhere. If you can’t be that person on an anonymous public forum, you’re not someone with integrity.
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Valid point, always appreciate a little etymology although learning that Helicopter is Helico-pter and not Heli-copter messed with my head.
But disregarding the online qualifier. Failing to fulfill the promise of taking out the trash contra failing to abide by the Hippocratic oath are not to me equal demonstrations of lacking integrity.
I don’t think I generally lack integrity, but perhaps I do? I wouldn’t know, this is the first time anyone has ever brought this to my attention. I have the lack of ability to read into situations, when people are serious/irritated. However I will admit I did not adhere to this promise, I was irritated with the response I received and thus became somewhat emotional, hence why I responded… it was rash and innapropriate given my previous wording however
In that regard, I rate an oath as much higher than a promise.
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Just to clarify: I have absolutely no knowledge of the original context, so no judgement from me.
I don’t know many people that would make a stern promise to take the trash out. But to me, if someone was to make that promise and not follow through, that’s just as much a failure of integrity as failing the hypocratic oath. Possibly more so, due to the simple nature of the task.
Failing the hypocratic oath may be less ethical, but no more of a failing of integrity.
For example: I still remember my failure to follow through with @T3hPwnisher Murph challenge last year. I’m sure I’ve done far less ethical things before and since, however i still remember that as a failure to follow through on my word for whatever reason.
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I don’t know you, but the way in which you communicate reads as a very hyper-type of individual, and I read such texts in that light.
I view such texts as free-form thinking, and thus take every strand and branch of it with tremendous amount of salt. To be painfully specific, I don’t attribute a lot of weight to any statement within such a body of text as usually there is so many of them.
This isn’t specific to your writing as an individual, but any writing that I’d categorise as similar to yours. It also includes yours.
Have you ever written out a complete post, and then deleted it because you felt it didn’t provide adequate value or wasn’t cohesive enough to be readily understood by your audience? I delete tons of posts I’ve written on here before posting them because I realise that they are at best a minute contribution to the topic du jour.
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I’m happy that we have two differing views of integrity here @dagill2 and @T3hPwnisher. My own idea of the term isn’t yet fully formed and so I won’t say anything conclusive on the matter.
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Actually I tend not to do this… very rarely will I delete a post after I’ve already posted it… that being said, regarding hyperactivity
I have ADHD, I’m not medicated for it, I dislike amphetamines and thus refuse to take them despite having them on prescription… Also have autism spectrum disorder
I never do this, I mean before pushing the reply button. Writing out a complete post and then go “nah, not worth it”
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Don’t do this either… I tend to just reply to things whether it’s important or not (hence the notion of hyperactivity)
What I do however is add in tidbits of information that tends to be relatively unimportant, edit posts after I’ve made them to put in additional information
Understandable, given your background. I’m not intimately familiar with ADHD so what I write now may appear as incredibly crude or insensitive and I apologise for that to you, and anyone else that reads this if I cause offense.
You wrote this,
And we all behave in the way we do, because of who we are and what we have experienced. This statement is true for everyone, regardless of any diagnosis that they have, whether or not that is ADHD, or being on the spectrum. Some parts of our behaviour we cannot change. But some we can. I can’t will away my eating disorder, but I can work on it. I certainly cannot will away my hypogonadism, but I can find ways to ameliorate its impact on my life.
I don’t know what is in your power to do or not with regards to how you conduct yourself, but if it is within your abilities to slow-down a bit and reply after having taken a breath or two, that might make the above scenario happen to you less and less.
I really hope you seek out the books I recommended.
I’m actually looking into the anatomy of peace one as we speak… I tend to take recommendations seriously, especially when it revolves around reading something to acquire a greater knowledge/understanding of various topics, human interaction specifically fascinates me given how little I understand it
I can certainly slow myself down if I really put effort into it… and it’d be of great help if I did so, as I wouldn’t make as many impulsive, rash and potentially opinion altering comments… wouldn’t say as many wildly inappropriate things at the wrong time etc. Medication makes it far easier, but also makes me anxious, angry and emotional… stunts my appetite into oblivion… all around not worth it
You might discover they are published in the opposite order I recommended reading them. But I’d argue they are best consumed in the order I proposed. I used to read them through once every year, but not as often nowadays. Whenever I feel lost though, with regards to how I can be me and yet engage with others in a way that is meaningful to both parties, these two works tend to guide me.
They contextualise what one has to take into account when communicating and why communication tends to fail using a semi-suitable metaphor to guide the thought process.
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As a follow up to my body image issue post I again keep gathering up anec-data that if you want to look lean and muscular your weight has to be at least (height in cm - 100)kg and usually the formula tends to be (((height in cm) - 100) + 10)kg