my mile time is an embarassment; i mainly focus on strengh and mass workout but still do cardio on the treadmill though not everyday. I usually do more of an interval type workout of 2 to 3 minutes running (not sprinting) and 2 to 3 minutes walking.
I know i could do a 12 minute mile and was doing a 10 minute mile not to long ago…but much beyond this, and i think i would be in trouble; but i have not pushed myself on this as i am not running or really training for running… I also weigh about 220…and do a like 7 or 8 sets of squats as well as leg presses so i dont know how much all of this effects my running… i guess i wont be going to the olympics any time soon for track
[quote]derek wrote:
Wimpy wrote:
Zelazo wrote:
Treadmills are much easier because they actually pull you along to a certain extent, or so I hear?
How in tarnation does it pull you along when the motion of the belt is to pull you off the machine?
No, the reason why treadmills are slightly easier is because most people don’t vary the incline/decline and there’s no wind resistance.
That and the fact that you are NOT actually moving your mass across a surface so there is no energy expended creating and maintaining forward motion.[/quote]
I don’t agree with the last part. I mean, if you’re not taking steps forward on the treadmill, then what are you doing? I agree more with the slight changes in slope and wind resistance. Plus there’s the often stopping to turn or cross a street when running. I think it’s actually harder to stop for a 5 second pause and then start up again than to continue running.
i disagree that teadmill is easier; i find running outdoors a lot easier as its just good being out and especially if you have a view of the mountains… with the treadmill its pretty much a grind…
[quote]derek wrote:
If any of you out there lift and DO NOT consider yourself a “runner”, but know what your one-mile time is, please post it here.
Part-time and indeed full-time runners need not apply. I’m just taking an informal poll on your times if you don’t run habitually but still know your approximate mile time.
Just under 9 minutes at a svelte 240 lbs. I just started jogging last week in an attempt to get rid of my winter coat. I ‘thought’ I had a better pace going.
My best was in high school, 6:10 at 180 lbs. At least that was the only other time I remember.
Outside has to be more difficult - uneven terrain, weather, changing direction, terrain, and weather. I rounded the corner and hit a nice wind. A more aerodynamic person might not notice. I am more closely shaped like a sail.
I don’t agree with the last part. I mean, if you’re not taking steps forward on the treadmill, then what are you doing? I agree more with the slight changes in slope and wind resistance. Plus there’s the often stopping to turn or cross a street when running. I think it’s actually harder to stop for a 5 second pause and then start up again than to continue running.[/quote]
There’s physics to consider.
How much would gas mileage differ if a car was running on powered rollers as opposed to driving down the freeway?
On a road or track you are carrying a given mass across a surface. On a treadmill, there is NO forward motion of that mass to perpetuate.
I don’t agree with the last part. I mean, if you’re not taking steps forward on the treadmill, then what are you doing? I agree more with the slight changes in slope and wind resistance. Plus there’s the often stopping to turn or cross a street when running. I think it’s actually harder to stop for a 5 second pause and then start up again than to continue running.
There’s physics to consider.
How much would gas mileage differ if a car was running on powered rollers as opposed to driving down the freeway?
On a road or track you are carrying a given mass across a surface. On a treadmill, there is NO forward motion of that mass to perpetuate.
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derek’s right. On a treadmill the ground is actually pulling your feet. This doesn’t mean that the treadmill is useless, but, aside from the elements, there is a big difference between running on a treadmill vs. running outdoors.
I love it when weightlifters discuss running. It’s just as amusing when runners discuss lifting.
I don’t agree with the last part. I mean, if you’re not taking steps forward on the treadmill, then what are you doing? I agree more with the slight changes in slope and wind resistance. Plus there’s the often stopping to turn or cross a street when running. I think it’s actually harder to stop for a 5 second pause and then start up again than to continue running.
There’s physics to consider.
How much would gas mileage differ if a car was running on powered rollers as opposed to driving down the freeway?
On a road or track you are carrying a given mass across a surface. On a treadmill, there is NO forward motion of that mass to perpetuate.
derek’s right. On a treadmill the ground is actually pulling your feet. This doesn’t mean that the treadmill is useless, but, aside from the elements, there is a big difference between running on a treadmill vs. running outdoors.
I love it when weightlifters discuss running. It’s just as amusing when runners discuss lifting.[/quote]
This is something I’ve wondered about. There’s a spirited discussion at this link:
in which Donovan Rebbechi makes a lot of sense, to me anyway (I’m a physicist, but don’t know squat about running energetics). He says it’s basically the same, aside from wind resistance, overheating, and comfy treadmill decks sucking up energy. So it could be easier or harder than track running, but is not as different as people think. That fits my meager experience.
To the OP, my best recent mile time is 6:40 (on a treadmill), but I’m not heavy (160 lbs) and I do run this distance occasionally to see how my intervals cardio is working.
I used to fancy myself a runner a couple years back. When I stopped running and started picking up heavy shit my mile time dumped off. I ran a 5:10 in high school and couldn’t do a mile in under 6:30 now.
With this thread in mind, yesterday I hopped on a treadmill at the gym and got a relatively easy 7:02. I’m guesstimating my best treadmill time right now is around 6:30ish. I figured this was decent since I haven’t tried running a mile in over 2 years.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Not a runner but I get Army-tested in the 2-mile run. My current time is 12:45. I run 3x a week, 4 at the most, and never for more than 30 minutes.[/quote]
I thought you were going Marine PLC. Why the change of plans, if you don’t mind my asking?
For me, just starting to get in a running routine (and by just starting, I mean tonight), mile time is probably a bit under 8 min., did a 24 min. 3 mile a few months ago, and that was with only a few weeks of irregular running/jogging under my belt.
[quote]Lemen wrote:
Wow maybe something is wrong with me or I’m just horribly horribly deconditioned but I was THRILLED to have run a mile in 9:30…blows[/quote]
hehe, no worries, I don’t think I’ve ever broken 8:30, and right now I’d probably be hard pressed to break 10:00 (unless I knew there was beer at the finish line). But I’m 240lbs and still manage to get around the rugby pitch alright so my terrible distance running doesn’t bother me much. Though I probably ought to start working on it before it gets worse.