No Legs on UFC Fighter

[quote]drewh wrote:
Guys you do realize this is a bodybuilding website no wheels or gunz equals suck.[/quote]

you should make a new account so you can fit in with all the other 09ers.

[quote]Kerley wrote:
drewh wrote:
Guys you do realize this is a bodybuilding website no wheels or gunz equals suck.

you should make a new account so you can fit in with all the other 09ers. [/quote]

and fuck you very much kerley :slight_smile:

[quote]anonym wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
thats not what the thread was about.

the OP was attempting to be paradoxical by stating the fighter in question had a big upper body but paired with a small lower body.

the thread took a change from that when everybody decided to talk about “rah rah rah he’s not a bodybuilder he’s an MMA fighter” - which has NOTHING to do with the original statement by the OP as the thread was about a guy with a ‘big’ upper body ‘small’ lower body. his profession had nothing to do with the topic, im sure the thread’s title was created by the Mods anyway.

i think 98% of the people on this site lack any type of thinking comprehension abilities

so instead of addressing what a thread is about, they take little things and swerve the thread into that topic.

And you feel that in a discussion of his small lower-body, mentioning that he doesn’t train specifically to IMPROVE said physique adds no value to the discussion whatsoever?

Or do you feel Vash’s answer several posts down from the original merits further discussion of the issue? Because God forbid threads evolve once the correct, obvious answer to the initial post is established.[/quote]

im not saying a thread cant evolve. but no one got the initial point to start with.

instead you have people chiming saying that because he’s a 9-0 MMA fighter that somehow negates him having a disprotionate body.

all im saying is he’s a featherweight for his height. i dont care if he never loses a fight ever. he’s still small.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
im not saying a thread cant evolve. but no one got the initial point to start with.[/quote]

The “initial point” of the thread was to laugh at a guy who doesn’t look like a well-developed bodybuilder. Then, some people showed up and explained that the guy isn’t a bodybuilder, doesn’t care about looking anything like a bodybuilder, and he’s perfectly developed for the sport he earns a living from. It kinda went downhill from there, and fast.

Ugh… Live… it’s disappointing to see that in the past year, regardless of your personal progress in the gym, you haven’t actually opened your mind to other possibilities in the training world. There’s more to life than lifting to get big muscles, brother.

A full year ago, when you were asking for advice on being a trainer, you said:
“its just that i want to employ BBing methods regardless of objectives since i obviously feel BBing is the superior style to achieve almost any goal.”
http://tnation.tmuscle.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/trainers_talking_shop?id=1214749&pageNo=4

Even back then, I explained why that’s a short-sighted and ineffective mindset. But if it helps to settle things here, then… yes, if we’re judging a pro MMA fighter on a bodybuilding scale, the guy is not symmetrically-built. I’d probably give that title to Krysztof Soszynski (he competed in bodybuilding years ago and could probably pass for Mariusz Pudz’s kid brother. Polish Power indeed.)

I pointed out that the guy has a 9-0 record because, even though he doesn’t measure up to standards in your bodybuilding-centered world, he’s built pretty-much perfectly for his world (as evidenced by his undefeated record).

Leg size, an aesthetic physique, and 6-pack abs aren’t necessary in that world, so, as was said a few pages ago, this whole thread should be a non-issue. It bears repeating (one last time, hopefully), that evaluating an athlete from one sport on standards from another makes as much sense as laughing at a sumo wrestler because he can’t play midfield on a soccer team.

If Jon Jones called you up and hired you to be his S&C coach, and your first priority was adding leg size just to improve his visual symmetry, I feel comfortable saying that you’d screw up his game plan, his performance would suffer, and nothing good would come of it.

Light-heavyweight, not featherweight. Just to be nitpicky. :wink:

I couldn’t find an over-6-foot featherweight, so here’s Corey Hill. 6’4", weighs in at 155.

Although, it doesn’t seem to help his bone density much. Hopefully he’ll move up a class or two.

And yes, this guy is small.

[quote]B-Man wrote:
Kerley wrote:
drewh wrote:
Guys you do realize this is a bodybuilding website no wheels or gunz equals suck.

you should make a new account so you can fit in with all the other 09ers.

and fuck you very much kerley :slight_smile:

[/quote]
your an exception to the rule :wink:

YOu have to post the video.

[quote]drewh wrote:
YOu have to post the video.[/quote]

Oh hell no. :slight_smile:

Those shin snap videos (Hill’s, the old Sid Vicious one, another of some kickboxer) always make me queasy, and it’s almost lunch time.

I think the worst part of them is that the bone never seems to break the skin, so their lower legs just look like Silly Putty halfway down.

You think that’s funny? Look at this guy: No arms nor legs, I know he’s no bodybuilder, but that’s just pathetic!

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
im not saying a thread cant evolve. but no one got the initial point to start with.

The “initial point” of the thread was to laugh at a guy who doesn’t look like a well-developed bodybuilder. Then, some people showed up and explained that the guy isn’t a bodybuilder, doesn’t care about looking anything like a bodybuilder, and he’s perfectly developed for the sport he earns a living from. It kinda went downhill from there, and fast.

instead you have people chiming saying that because he’s a 9-0 MMA fighter that somehow negates him having a disprotionate body.

Ugh… Live… it’s disappointing to see that in the past year, regardless of your personal progress in the gym, you haven’t actually opened your mind to other possibilities in the training world. There’s more to life than lifting to get big muscles, brother.

A full year ago, when you were asking for advice on being a trainer, you said:
“its just that i want to employ BBing methods regardless of objectives since i obviously feel BBing is the superior style to achieve almost any goal.”

Even back then, I explained why that’s a short-sighted and ineffective mindset. But if it helps to settle things here, then… yes, if we’re judging a pro MMA fighter on a bodybuilding scale, the guy is not symmetrically-built. I’d probably give that title to Krysztof Soszynski (he competed in bodybuilding years ago and could probably pass for Mariusz Pudz’s kid brother. Polish Power indeed.)

I pointed out that the guy has a 9-0 record because, even though he doesn’t measure up to standards in your bodybuilding-centered world, he’s built pretty-much perfectly for his world (as evidenced by his undefeated record).

Leg size, an aesthetic physique, and 6-pack abs aren’t necessary in that world, so, as was said a few pages ago, this whole thread should be a non-issue. It bears repeating (one last time, hopefully), that evaluating an athlete from one sport on standards from another makes as much sense as laughing at a sumo wrestler because he can’t play midfield on a soccer team.

If Jon Jones called you up and hired you to be his S&C coach, and your first priority was adding leg size just to improve his visual symmetry, I feel comfortable saying that you’d screw up his game plan, his performance would suffer, and nothing good would come of it.[/quote]

if Jon Jones called me up to be his S&C coach id tell him he had the wrong number.

for the last time, this thread isnt about athletic performance, it actually IS about size.

regardless of whether the person actually needs any of that size for their sport is NOT what this is about and is not relevant to the topic.

we are focusing on ONE simple thing; his upper to lower body ratios. thats all.

again, we are talking about his size not as a bi-product of his training not as a nescesity for his sport, but just as a totally isolated topic. thats all, and i know how extremely fucking dumb that topic is, but it is what it is.

l8ersk8s

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
anonym wrote:
TheBigV wrote:
It’s a thread about his physique. Make a thread about his abilities if you have a boner that hard for him Big_Boss

So the cool thing to do nowadays is start threads bashing the physiques of those who tailor their workouts and bodies - to compete at a high level no one else in this thread has ANY real experience in - for reasons OTHER THAN… building a physique?

I’m going to start a thread about how Ronnie Coleman can’t dunk a basketball and see how well THAT goes down.

thats not what the thread was about.

the OP was attempting to be paradoxical by stating the fighter in question had a big upper body but paired with a small lower body.

the thread took a change from that when everybody decided to talk about “rah rah rah he’s not a bodybuilder he’s an MMA fighter” - which has NOTHING to do with the original statement by the OP as the thread was about a guy with a ‘big’ upper body ‘small’ lower body. his profession had nothing to do with the topic, im sure the thread’s title was created by the Mods anyway.

i think 98% of the people on this site lack any type of thinking comprehension abilities

so instead of addressing what a thread is about, they take little things and swerve the thread into that topic. [/quote]

weird my text didn’t show, anyway i was saying, I didn’t even realize they’d changed the title till you said that, I feel violated.
And to anyone that took this thread as being serious… really?
wow i didn’t even notice they modified my title til you said that. i feel violated.
and to anyone that took this thread as serious… really? come on…

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Chris Colucci wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
im not saying a thread cant evolve. but no one got the initial point to start with.

The “initial point” of the thread was to laugh at a guy who doesn’t look like a well-developed bodybuilder. Then, some people showed up and explained that the guy isn’t a bodybuilder, doesn’t care about looking anything like a bodybuilder, and he’s perfectly developed for the sport he earns a living from. It kinda went downhill from there, and fast.

instead you have people chiming saying that because he’s a 9-0 MMA fighter that somehow negates him having a disprotionate body.

Ugh… Live… it’s disappointing to see that in the past year, regardless of your personal progress in the gym, you haven’t actually opened your mind to other possibilities in the training world. There’s more to life than lifting to get big muscles, brother.

A full year ago, when you were asking for advice on being a trainer, you said:
“its just that i want to employ BBing methods regardless of objectives since i obviously feel BBing is the superior style to achieve almost any goal.”

Even back then, I explained why that’s a short-sighted and ineffective mindset. But if it helps to settle things here, then… yes, if we’re judging a pro MMA fighter on a bodybuilding scale, the guy is not symmetrically-built. I’d probably give that title to Krysztof Soszynski (he competed in bodybuilding years ago and could probably pass for Mariusz Pudz’s kid brother. Polish Power indeed.)

I pointed out that the guy has a 9-0 record because, even though he doesn’t measure up to standards in your bodybuilding-centered world, he’s built pretty-much perfectly for his world (as evidenced by his undefeated record).

Leg size, an aesthetic physique, and 6-pack abs aren’t necessary in that world, so, as was said a few pages ago, this whole thread should be a non-issue. It bears repeating (one last time, hopefully), that evaluating an athlete from one sport on standards from another makes as much sense as laughing at a sumo wrestler because he can’t play midfield on a soccer team.

If Jon Jones called you up and hired you to be his S&C coach, and your first priority was adding leg size just to improve his visual symmetry, I feel comfortable saying that you’d screw up his game plan, his performance would suffer, and nothing good would come of it.

if Jon Jones called me up to be his S&C coach id tell him he had the wrong number.

for the last time, this thread isnt about athletic performance, it actually IS about size.

regardless of whether the person actually needs any of that size for their sport is NOT what this is about and is not relevant to the topic.

we are focusing on ONE simple thing; his upper to lower body ratios. thats all.

again, we are talking about his size not as a bi-product of his training not as a nescesity for his sport, but just as a totally isolated topic. thats all, and i know how extremely fucking dumb that topic is, but it is what it is.

l8ersk8s
[/quote]

Then it comes down to what has been the tone regarding your posts. WHO FUCKING CARES?? You recognize how dumb this thread is,yet you perpetuate the simple-mindedness of it. And those that refuse to lower their standards of thinking for you,are labeled as lacking “thinking comprehension.” How convenient for you.

If he is indeed a fighter(AN OBVIOUS IMPORTANT FACT),then tell me how meaningful can a discussion about his upper-to-lower body ratios really get? It can’t…unless you think on a 5th grade level. Which is evident in your critique of his “high school freshman” and featherweight build.

Then you fucking pull this shit out of your ass that fighters don’t cut 25lbs for a fight. A clear sign that you haven’t a clue. You got called out on that,yet you don’t address it. So I guess you realized you fucked up on that statement. You’re making yourself look like a fool…the OP wasn’t being near as serious about this as you.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

i doubt he weighs that much off season or else he’d be fighting in a bigger weight class. no one cuts 25 pounds for a fight.

[/quote]

LOL.

Nobody? Really? Oh, ok. Glad you told me.

hahahahahah.


LOOK AT THIS GUY!

HE’S SUCH A PANSY! HE’S SO SKINNY! bwahahahahaha.

I don’t care if he’s a champion marathon runner, he’s small.

Moron.

Jon Jones does not have a huge difference in size between his upper body and lower body. He has the appearance of such in the first photo, but in the more action-oriented pics, he’s obviously balanced, with more cutting in his upper body.

Wadded Panties: Not Just for Women.

[quote]Vash wrote:
Jon Jones does not have a huge difference in size between his upper body and lower body. He has the appearance of such in the first photo, but in the more action-oriented pics, he’s obviously balanced, with more cutting in his upper body.

Wadded Panties: Not Just for Women.[/quote]

watch ufc 100, he looks even more out of proportion live.

Can he dunk?

[quote]hachi wrote:
Vash wrote:
Jon Jones does not have a huge difference in size between his upper body and lower body. He has the appearance of such in the first photo, but in the more action-oriented pics, he’s obviously balanced, with more cutting in his upper body.

Wadded Panties: Not Just for Women.

watch ufc 100, he looks even more out of proportion live.[/quote]

So did Brock Lesnar.

//thread.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

Then it comes down to what has been the tone regarding your posts. WHO FUCKING CARES?? You recognize how dumb this thread is,yet you perpetuate the simple-mindedness of it. And those that refuse to lower their standards of thinking for you,are labeled as lacking “thinking comprehension.” How convenient for you.

[/quote]

if you can’t follow basic instructions, or understand a simplistic concept then yes, you lack reading comprehension or the ability to stay on course. youre sooo smart im sure you did get the thread but your need to show everyone how much you know about mma got in the way.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:

Then it comes down to what has been the tone regarding your posts. WHO FUCKING CARES?? You recognize how dumb this thread is,yet you perpetuate the simple-mindedness of it. And those that refuse to lower their standards of thinking for you,are labeled as lacking “thinking comprehension.” How convenient for you.

if you can’t follow basic instructions, or understand a simplistic concept then yes, you lack reading comprehension or the ability to stay on course. youre sooo smart im sure you did get the thread but your need to show everyone how much you know about mma got in the way.[/quote]

How old are you again,boy?