[quote]H factor wrote:
I’m saying to get rid of rules and regulations that keep people from being free. You’re either for that or against it. You seem to be playing both sides at times. [/quote]
Are star athletes being kidnapped and forced to play sport? I was unaware such slavery exists in the U.S. We really need to put a stop to it.
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I wasn’t talking about slavery. I’m talking about free to make decisions that are in their best financial interests. You keep saying you’re for this, but then say stuff like it isn’t effecting that many people and other things.
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Well, it’s only an issue for less than 1% of student athletes.
All “non-profit” means is profits aren’t distributed to shareholders; it doesn’t mean the organization isn’t making money. Many “non-profits” pay huge salaries make make mounds and mounds of money.
[quote]H factor wrote:
Why would the President of a non profit make close to 2 million dollars? Where is all this non profit coming from? [/quote]
Who says $2MM is too much for running an organization as large as the NCAA?[/quote]
I didn’t. I’m also not pretending it’s non profit. I wouldn’t pretend that billion dollar TV contracts are simply part of a non profit deal that has the best interests of student athletes in mind.
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You can pretend all you want, they are a 501(c)(3).
"The T-shirt Robert Griffin III wore for his pregame warm-up on Monday said “Operation Patience,” a tongue-in-cheek joke about the Redskins’ slowly bringing him back to game action off his ACL injury. It was funny after a controversy-filled week. The T-shirt seemed pretty nice too, maybe a nice breathable cotton.
But most likely, that T-shirt wasn’t worth the $10,000 the NFL is making Griffin pay for it.
The NFL doesn’t like anyone wearing anything that doesn’t adhere to their uniform policies. Anything that isn’t from an official apparel supplier is a particular no-no."
Better call the police!!! The NFL isn’t a “free market” and doesn’t let it’s players do what they want, even in practice.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
All “non-profit” means is profits aren’t distributed to shareholders; it doesn’t mean the organization isn’t making money. Many “non-profits” pay huge salaries make make mounds and mounds of money. [/quote]
"If you thought charitable work wasn’t lucrative, think again.
Top executives of some of the largest and most prestigious charities in the U.S. receive salaries exceeding $1 million, according to a study of 2011 pay by Charity Navigator. The rankings also include other nonprofit organizations, such as museums.
In its analysis of 3,929 charities, the charity research group found that 11 nonprofits paid their CEOs more than $1 million in annual salary and bonuses in 2011. CEOs at 78 of the charities were paid between $500,000 and $1 million.
The CEO of the Boys and Girls Club of America earned the highest pay in the group of $1.85 million, according to the survey. The Metropolitan Museum of Art CEO earned nearly $1.5 million, the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children paid its CEO nearly $1.2 million, while the National Jewish Health’s head got over $1 million. "
"The T-shirt Robert Griffin III wore for his pregame warm-up on Monday said “Operation Patience,” a tongue-in-cheek joke about the Redskins’ slowly bringing him back to game action off his ACL injury. It was funny after a controversy-filled week. The T-shirt seemed pretty nice too, maybe a nice breathable cotton.
But most likely, that T-shirt wasn’t worth the $10,000 the NFL is making Griffin pay for it.
The NFL doesn’t like anyone wearing anything that doesn’t adhere to their uniform policies. Anything that isn’t from an official apparel supplier is a particular no-no."
Better call the police!!! The NFL isn’t a “free market” and doesn’t let it’s players do what they want, even in practice.
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I can’t tell if you’re missing the point from a lack of intelligence or on purpose.
How many NFL players CAN’T sign shoe deals or star in commercials or sign autographs for money, etc?
Would you like to talk about the actual debate or keep making up shit and saying things like girl scouts herp derp call the police?
[quote]H factor wrote:
The biggest difference is the pro game individuals can make money and wear the shoes they want, star in commercials, etc.
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They actually can’t wear the shoes they want. NFL players are fined for being out of uniform…[/quote]
Fined for being out of uniform yes. Kept from being the star of multi-million dollar deals? No.
Of course you can’t have colors and stuff that may limit the ability of officials or opponents to see the game. Be kept from inking big deals off your popularity?
"The T-shirt Robert Griffin III wore for his pregame warm-up on Monday said “Operation Patience,” a tongue-in-cheek joke about the Redskins’ slowly bringing him back to game action off his ACL injury. It was funny after a controversy-filled week. The T-shirt seemed pretty nice too, maybe a nice breathable cotton.
But most likely, that T-shirt wasn’t worth the $10,000 the NFL is making Griffin pay for it.
The NFL doesn’t like anyone wearing anything that doesn’t adhere to their uniform policies. Anything that isn’t from an official apparel supplier is a particular no-no."
Better call the police!!! The NFL isn’t a “free market” and doesn’t let it’s players do what they want, even in practice.
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I can’t tell if you’re missing the point from a lack of intelligence or on purpose.
How many NFL players CAN’T sign shoe deals or star in commercials or sign autographs for money, etc?
Would you like to talk about the actual debate or keep making up shit and saying things like girl scouts herp derp call the police?
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LoL. You get so angry H.
Look, my point is all organizations make rules that seem stupid, but that’s their prerogative.
"The T-shirt Robert Griffin III wore for his pregame warm-up on Monday said “Operation Patience,” a tongue-in-cheek joke about the Redskins’ slowly bringing him back to game action off his ACL injury. It was funny after a controversy-filled week. The T-shirt seemed pretty nice too, maybe a nice breathable cotton.
But most likely, that T-shirt wasn’t worth the $10,000 the NFL is making Griffin pay for it.
The NFL doesn’t like anyone wearing anything that doesn’t adhere to their uniform policies. Anything that isn’t from an official apparel supplier is a particular no-no."
Better call the police!!! The NFL isn’t a “free market” and doesn’t let it’s players do what they want, even in practice.
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I can’t tell if you’re missing the point from a lack of intelligence or on purpose.
How many NFL players CAN’T sign shoe deals or star in commercials or sign autographs for money, etc?
Would you like to talk about the actual debate or keep making up shit and saying things like girl scouts herp derp call the police?
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The point is there are restrictions on NFL athletes just like college athletes. Don’t go to mandatory practice, fined. Don’t go to mandatory press meetings, fined. Wear a T-shirt that doesn’t say Nike, fined. Smoke Pot, fined. Possibly involved in a crime, suspended, lose game check. Helmet to helmet hit, fined.
[quote]H factor wrote:
The biggest difference is the pro game individuals can make money and wear the shoes they want, star in commercials, etc.
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They actually can’t wear the shoes they want. NFL players are fined for being out of uniform…[/quote]
Fined for being out of uniform yes. Kept from being the star of multi-million dollar deals? No.
Of course you can’t have colors and stuff that may limit the ability of officials or opponents to see the game. Be kept from inking big deals off your popularity?
Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant has agreed to strict guidelines from team officials regarding his conduct away from the field.
The guidelines Bryant agreed to took effect Aug. 23 when the team returned to Dallas after three weeks of training camp in California, according to sources.
Sources say some of the rules Bryant must abide are as follows:
? A midnight curfew. If he’s going to miss curfew, team officials must know in advance;
If Dez Bryant is unable to succeed on the field – or off – under these rules, then it’ll be time for Dallas to move on, Jean-Jacques Taylor writes. Story
? No drinking alcohol.
? He can’t attend any strip clubs and can only attend nightclubs if they are approved by the team and he has a security team with him.
? He must attend counseling sessions twice a week.
? A rotating three-man security team will leave one man with Bryant at all times.
? Members of the security team will drive Bryant to practices, games and team functions.
I remember going to the Cotton Bowl in 1994 (I think), we ended up playing against Texas Tech in Dallas.
I remember getting $400, it was called a gift, along with some clothing and some trinkets. It was also some kind of compensation for giving up my winter break to practice and play during the holiday.
Thinking about how the way things work today, if players were paid, it would only cause an increase in prices for ticket, merchandise, advertising, etc.
Let’s face it, the university is not going to just eat the loss for paying players.
So the real question is, are people willing to pay more to attend games, or buy memorabilia ? Because that is what I think it will come down to.
"The T-shirt Robert Griffin III wore for his pregame warm-up on Monday said “Operation Patience,” a tongue-in-cheek joke about the Redskins’ slowly bringing him back to game action off his ACL injury. It was funny after a controversy-filled week. The T-shirt seemed pretty nice too, maybe a nice breathable cotton.
But most likely, that T-shirt wasn’t worth the $10,000 the NFL is making Griffin pay for it.
The NFL doesn’t like anyone wearing anything that doesn’t adhere to their uniform policies. Anything that isn’t from an official apparel supplier is a particular no-no."
Better call the police!!! The NFL isn’t a “free market” and doesn’t let it’s players do what they want, even in practice.
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I can’t tell if you’re missing the point from a lack of intelligence or on purpose.
How many NFL players CAN’T sign shoe deals or star in commercials or sign autographs for money, etc?
Would you like to talk about the actual debate or keep making up shit and saying things like girl scouts herp derp call the police?
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The point is there are restrictions on NFL athletes just like college athletes. Don’t go to mandatory practice, fined. Don’t go to mandatory press meetings, fined. Wear a T-shirt that doesn’t say Nike, fined. Smoke Pot, fined. Possibly involved in a crime, suspended, lose game check. Helmet to helmet hit, fined.
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Honestly do I have to point out the differences between this and college athletes?
College athletes can do all that and lose scholarships.
College athletes can also lose scholarships for trying to make money.
How many NFL guys get fired for trying to make money via commercials? Trying to make money from other endorsements? Trying to make money from jersey sales?
If it DOESN’T have to do with that, it’s not what I’m talking about.
I can’t tell if you’re missing the point from a lack of intelligence
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And I’d ask you to refrain from saying things like this,
First, I’ll toot my own horn and say I’m very intelligent.
Second, I’ve not resorted to calling you names. Don’t mistakenly put me in the same category as your buddies who call you names.[/quote]
I don’t know what buddies you mean, but you’re right and I apologize. FWIW messed up situations elsewhere (NFL is a non profit) don’t make things ok with what we are talking about. We waste our time running around talking about other instances where bullshit takes place and we definitely don’t use other injustices to explain why current ones are ok in a different area.