I own a pair of Nike Free 5.0s and they are great, comfortable shoes. However, I recently started getting my squat stance out really wide, and the 5.0s just don’t have enough support on the sides to push out against. I wear a pair of wrestling shoes instead. They are completely flat and you can push hard against the sides without fear of rolling over the soles.
Whenever I squat with a close stance I have no problem with the 5.0s, but if you use a wide powerlifting style squat I wouldn’t recommend them Also, keep in mind I am talking about 5.0s, I guess the 7.0s have improved ankle support.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Even Nike recommends that these stay true to size. I think some people are confused on what size shoe they really wear. I buy a size 13 (the same as my other shoes) and they fit fine. When designing them online it tells you to pick your regular shoe size. Between people complaining about the width of the shoe and how elevated it is, I can only come to the conclusion that some of these people have problems no matter what shoe they buy.[/quote]
I consistently wear 11E. I have a pair that’s 11.5 and a pair that’s 12, and a pair that’s 10.5, but that’s just the variation of shoe manufacturers. If you ignore width, you’re going to have people that aren’t fitting into their shoes. My Nike Free’s have a ton of room inbetween the toes and the top of the shoe. It doesn’t really bother me because they’re so flexible that I can get weight on the ball of my foot when I need to without problem, but I’d pay twice the retail cost if they’d just be fucking normal.
Almost every shoe maker outside of the athletic arena that produces shoes that are more expensive than $45 sneakers you buy for 10 year olds with flashing lights in them size shoes in width and size, not just size.
I consistently wear 11E. I have a pair that’s 11.5 and a pair that’s 12, and a pair that’s 10.5, but that’s just the variation of shoe manufacturers. [/quote]
But we aren’t talking about several different manufacturers. We are talking about a guy who has owned a pair of Nike’s before of another style and thought, based on some of you with wide feet, that he needed to buy a different size than he already wears. We get it, you have wide feet. Everyone else on then planet probably does not have such a hard time finding shoes that fit in the same brand of shoe. My feet aren’t tiny either but I have never had a problem with these. I have also owned other pairs of Nike’s before in my life time so we aren’t talking about how these compare to some off brand shoe you bought once. I can’t wear most dress shoes in my size because they are too narrow…but we aren’t discussing dress shoes.
If you have EVER owned a pair of Nike’s before, buy these in the size that fit you then. If you have feet with “problems”, maybe you should look elsewhere.
I have needed orthotics made before because I have very little arch in my foot (if any at all). I haven’t needed to wear them with these shoes. However, if I wear my regular “New Balance” brand for work, I am in pain or discomfort within minutes. You do what works for you.
I am just making it clear to people who seem confused by those of you with problems that this doesn’t go for everyone.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can’t wear most dress shoes in my size because they are too narrow…but we aren’t discussing dress shoes.[/quote]
Should the option not be available from Nike? I recognize they’re not Edward Green, but all feet are not created equal. Some people are too narrow, some people are too wide. You’d think a shoe company could give people the option to select different widths.
New Balance, in part, became so popular because they offered the first running shoe in different widths. Nike is being archaic.
It’s not an issue of posture, or orthotics, or “problems.” It’s the way adults expect shoes that cost more than lunch to be sized for the sake of improved sizing accuracy.
It’s not an issue of posture, or orthotics, or “problems.” It’s the way adults expect shoes that cost more than lunch to be sized for the sake of improved sizing accuracy.[/quote]
Well, considering Nike’s profits are higher than most other shoe companies, it doesn’t appear to be hampering their wallets (mind you, very large basketball players with sizes above 14 are wearing them regularly).
Most athletic shoes are NOT offered in various widths even if New Balance has gone that route. If you happen to be someone who has feet that wide then you would obviously also understand that you aren’t the majority. My feet are 3 sizes larger than yours so, personally, it is hard to believe that your feet are twice as wide as mine.
Since that is the case, I can’t imagine this is the first time you have encountered a problem or that it will be the last.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Well, considering Nike’s profits are higher than most other shoe companies, it doesn’t appear to be hampering their wallets (mind you, very large basketball players with sizes above 14 are wearing them regularly). [/quote]
Yes, they’re very efficient. I’m sure they’d end up losing money if they had to employ different manufacturing standards when they have such a stranglehold on the market that people with varying widths will buy the shoes regardless. They’re a company that makes money off of mass manufacturing, I’m aware of this.
Feet “that wide” doesn’t really put me in such a minority. 4A, 3A, 2A, A, B, C, D, E, 2E, 3E, 4E. You’re telling me your size 14 feet are in the A’s for width?
I’ve always had the problems with athletic shoes. Everything else is sold in differing widths, as they should be.
They just dont make Chuck’s like they used too. I think Converse got bought out or moved to China, cause there is a noticable difference in the quality and feel of the Chucks now and then.
I have a pair of Nike cross trainers I bought two years ago and I like them alot. I might replace them in a year or so, but they are really fantastic shoes.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
Should the option not be available from Nike? I recognize they’re not Edward Green, but all feet are not created equal. Some people are too narrow, some people are too wide. You’d think a shoe company could give people the option to select different widths.
New Balance, in part, became so popular because they offered the first running shoe in different widths. Nike is being archaic.
It’s not an issue of posture, or orthotics, or “problems.” It’s the way adults expect shoes that cost more than lunch to be sized for the sake of improved sizing accuracy.[/quote]
Agreed
I have fairly wide feet, and in order to fit into these shoes, I need to wear a thin pair of socks.
Adidas seems to be the worse for this (I have never been able to wear a pair). Rebok and NB fit me the best, but I don’t think they have a similar type of shoe to the Free.
[quote]vision1 wrote:
Dweezil wrote:
Should the option not be available from Nike? I recognize they’re not Edward Green, but all feet are not created equal. Some people are too narrow, some people are too wide. You’d think a shoe company could give people the option to select different widths.
New Balance, in part, became so popular because they offered the first running shoe in different widths. Nike is being archaic.
It’s not an issue of posture, or orthotics, or “problems.” It’s the way adults expect shoes that cost more than lunch to be sized for the sake of improved sizing accuracy.
Agreed
I have fairly wide feet, and in order to fit into these shoes, I need to wear a thin pair of socks.
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You don’t wear these with socks. That may be your problem. I wouldn’t be able to wear mine with socks. Have you seen socks on any model wearing them? Have you read the site at all? No?
There is a reason this model is NOT wearing socks with these shoes. It is because they weren’t meant to be worn with socks. With nike.com so close on the internet, it sure seems like very few of you have actually looked at what you are critiquing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is a reason this model is NOT wearing socks with these shoes. It is because they weren’t meant to be worn with socks. With nike.com so close on the internet, it sure seems like very few of you have actually looked at what you are critiquing.[/quote]
Why not just give that extra 1-2 mm of thickness so that you can wear socks with them?
[quote]vision1 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
There is a reason this model is NOT wearing socks with these shoes. It is because they weren’t meant to be worn with socks. With nike.com so close on the internet, it sure seems like very few of you have actually looked at what you are critiquing.
Why not just give that extra 1-2 mm of thickness so that you can wear socks with them?
Washing socks is much easier than washing shoes.[/quote]
Why not simply order half a size larger (LIKE THE SITE RECOMMENDS) if you want a looser fit? You are the one complaining about the shoe not fitting while doing what you aren’t supposed to do. If you just really really want to wear socks with them, OBVIOUSLY you would get a larger size than usual.
I mean, that is common sense, right? Shit, don’t forget you are the one who didn’t know this apparently. I personally pay more attention to shit that I buy than that.
Adidas seems to be the worse for this (I have never been able to wear a pair). Rebok and NB fit me the best, but I don’t think they have a similar type of shoe to the Free.[/quote]
Adidas makes different widths.
I am the exact opposite, I have never been able to wear Nike because of the narrow width.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why not simply order half a size larger (LIKE THE SITE RECOMMENDS) if you want a looser fit? You are the one complaining about the shoe not fitting while doing what you aren’t supposed to do. If you just really really want to wear socks with them, OBVIOUSLY you would get a larger size than usual.
I mean, that is common sense, right? Shit, don’t forget you are the one who didn’t know this apparently. I personally pay more attention to shit that I buy than that.[/quote]
Buying a larger size also increases length, which I don’t want.
[quote]vision1 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Why not simply order half a size larger (LIKE THE SITE RECOMMENDS) if you want a looser fit? You are the one complaining about the shoe not fitting while doing what you aren’t supposed to do. If you just really really want to wear socks with them, OBVIOUSLY you would get a larger size than usual.
I mean, that is common sense, right? Shit, don’t forget you are the one who didn’t know this apparently. I personally pay more attention to shit that I buy than that.
Buying a larger size also increases length, which I don’t want.
I mean, that is common sense, right?[/quote]
Half a size larger (considering you can design them that way) gives you so much length that the shoe doesn’t fit?
[quote]BluePfaltz wrote:
They just dont make Chuck’s like they used too. I think Converse got bought out or moved to China, cause there is a noticable difference in the quality and feel of the Chucks now and then.
I have a pair of Nike cross trainers I bought two years ago and I like them alot. I might replace them in a year or so, but they are really fantastic shoes.[/quote]
Actually, Nike bought Converse back in 2003 for $305M
The are made in China or some other very low labor cost country, probably haven’t been made in the U.S. since the 1980s. Take a look at some pictures of Wilt Chamberlin, he worn Chucks and played NBA basketball at what most people would consider a pretty high level for years in shoes that nobody in the NBA now would consider wearing on the court.
