NFL 2012/2013 Part 3

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

With all the CTE info and player health concerns I feel like a lot more players would be inclined to walk away a little earlier in order to preserve their
Health. [/quote]

You only live once, and it is hard to walk away from millions of dollars.[/quote]

Exactly, you only live once so why live a shortened shitty life where you can’t walk, eat or live on your own because you have the mental capacity and mobility of a 95 year old.[/quote]

I agree with you, but it is hard to walk away from the money. These kids live in the now, and want to get paid.[/quote]

Kids? Ed Reed is almost 40 lol

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Anybody know if DB is OK? I thought he would have jumped in and told everybody to fuck themselves and lick his balls by now…[/quote]

I’m pretty sure he’s staying away to avoid the ridicule that he’ll take lol.

But in regards to the Ed Reed talk… He should retire like Lewis. He just won a ring, he is old, he should have plenty of money and hasn’t really had any major injuries that I can think of.

He should walk away on top while he can still walk.[/quote]

What ridicule? The only person who can talk any shit about how the Super Bowl turned out is the ONE Ravens fan on this whole site. Other than his team, the Niners were heads and shoulders above the entire NFL and are already the odds-on favorites to win it all next year.

Pat? He can choke on an Atlanta cock for all I care. He sounds like a fool touting Alex Smith as the better QB than Kaepernick. Wouldn’t expect anything less from a guy who has watched exactly ONE championship in the entire 150+ year professional sports history of his city. The guy simply doesn’t know what championship-caliber players in ANY sport looks like.

Gettinitdone sounds like another dumbfuck football fan with his bogus claims that Matt Ryan will be a better QB than Kaepernick when all is said and done. Like history means ANYTHING in sports. Was he pointing to the fact that the Niners had never lost in the Super Bowl as one of the reasons that they would win? Of course not, because none of that has bearing on the game. I laugh at the notion that anything that Vick or Newton or any other QB has done has any impact whatsoever on what Kaepernick will do. And for the record, Steve Young was as pure a pocket passer as there ever was in the NFL for his entire starting career. I should know. I was in Candlestick for all but a handful of his starts between 1991 and 1999.

If every GM in the NFL could choose a QB for the next ten years and the two choices were Kaepernick and Ryan they’d all take Kaepernick. Clearly Gettinitdone hasn’t watched Kaepernick play a whole lot if he thinks he’s a running QB. The guy is a pocket passer who happens to have a ton of speed. Ask Pat and his fucking Falcons what Kaepernick can do from the pocket. The guy will UNDOUBTEDLY have a better career than Ryan and he has ALREADY proven to be a better clutch performer than Ryan is.

Ryan is a fucking choke artist with a weaker, less-accurate arm than Kaepernick has. He’s also way smarter, which is an important trait for any QB and is a reason why Newton and Vick bear no comparison to Kaepernick. The guy’s Wonderlic score was more than two standard deviations above the mean, whereas Vick and Newton’s score COMBINED was less than Kaepernick’s.

Anyone who’s actually played football in their lives can see that Ryan’s ceiling is Kaepernick’s floor. Doesn’t take a genius to notice that Kaepernick consistently rifled the ball through tight windows with more velocity than any other QB in the game is capable of all season long for the 49ers.

As far as not being around the last few days, it has nothing to do with the Super Bowl. It’s just a fucking game. A game I happen to have been unhealthily emotionally invested in, but so what? I’m also an SF Giants fan so at least I can take some comfort in knowing that I just watched two World Series winners in the last three years and will be watching a contending team again this year, regarding both baseball AND football. No one else on this site can say the same thing about their favorite baseball and football teams.

I’ve been away because I have a fucking life, which includes working while trying to fill out a shitload of paperwork for a job with the State Department out in South Korea that I just accepted. Sorry if I haven’t been around to argue with you guys about the Super Bowl. The Niners may have lost the battle, but ten years from now they will have won the war and reaffirmed their position as one of the premier sports franchises in the world. That isn’t something that any other football fan can say in this thread. The only franchises that can even think about making a statement like that are the Cowgirls, who are going nowhere fast and haven’t done a fucking thing since 1995, and the Steelers, whose future isn’t nearly as bright as the 49ers’ is.

And I sure as shit am glad that I haven’t had to root for some phony-as-shit, murdering, cheating, thuggish caricature like Ray Lewis for the last fifteen years. Watching Barry Bonds put a Giants uniform on for almost 15 years was bad enough. I can’t imagine what any Ravens fan with half a conscience must be going through knowing that they’ve been cheering on one of the biggest pieces of phony shit to ever put on a football jersey.

No, thank you very much. I’ll take my Niners over any other team any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. It was a horrific loss for me personally, but I got over it really quickly knowing that I’ll probably be watching them contend for a Super Bowl title every year just like the old days. Fuck, can’t expect a team to go to the Super Bowl six times without losing.

And fuck yeah I’m bitter about my team losing? So what? At least I can admit it, unlike most of you other motherfuckers (Pat) who watch their pitiful franchise fall short every year and then slam everyone else’s far more storied teams in a misguided attempt at making themselves feel better about the fact that the pinnacle of their teams’ histories is falling short. Most other teams’ fans would be happy just to get to the Super Bowl. But when you’re a 49ers fan that doesn’t work. Unless you’re a Steelers, Patriots or Cowgirls fan, you’ll never know what that feeling is like.[/quote]

You don’t even know man. Kap has virtually the same record as Tebow…[/quote]

Ooohhhhhhh, I sense a shit storm a comin.[/quote]

Clearly you don’t know how to sense a sarcasm storm then.[/quote]

Apparently neither do you :)[/quote]

Sarcasm isn’t retroactive pal.[/quote]

Whatever you say, friend.

Hey how’s your new 49’s Super Bowl shirt fit…oh wait, nevermind.

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They are playing audio from Flacco at the Super Bowl during the free kick at the end of the game.

He was telling other offensive players to run out onto the field and tackle Ted Ginn if he breaks the return lol.

He’s 100% serious and Pita says “really???”

lololol

Oh man I wish that would have happened.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

With all the CTE info and player health concerns I feel like a lot more players would be inclined to walk away a little earlier in order to preserve their
Health. [/quote]

You only live once, and it is hard to walk away from millions of dollars.[/quote]

Exactly, you only live once so why live a shortened shitty life where you can’t walk, eat or live on your own because you have the mental capacity and mobility of a 95 year old.[/quote]

I agree with you, but it is hard to walk away from the money. These kids live in the now, and want to get paid.[/quote]

Kids? Ed Reed is almost 40 lol
[/quote]

What % of players actually make it past 30? How many actually make it past 3-5 years in the league. Only the superstars do and those are a small fraction of the league. On average they are kids. They need to get in make their money and either get injured, get cut, or become a superstar. What usually happens?

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This whole conversation started because I said Ed Reed should walk away while he still can.

I know how the NFL works, I have two friends who play in the league… It’s a pretty jacked up situation if you aren’t an all star.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
This whole conversation started because I said Ed Reed should walk away while he still can.

I know how the NFL works, I have two friends who play in the league… It’s a pretty jacked up situation if you aren’t an all star.[/quote]

agreed.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
This whole conversation started because I said Ed Reed should walk away while he still can.

I know how the NFL works, I have two friends who play in the league… It’s a pretty jacked up situation if you aren’t an all star.[/quote]

But if he quits before he suffers some crazy injury he can’t join in on these lawsuits against the NFL for getting hurt while he played…

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[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
This whole conversation started because I said Ed Reed should walk away while he still can.

I know how the NFL works, I have two friends who play in the league… It’s a pretty jacked up situation if you aren’t an all star.[/quote]

But if he quits before he suffers some crazy injury he can’t join in on these lawsuits against the NFL for getting hurt while he played…[/quote]
Usually the lawsuits are from lingering effects after they have stopped playing for awhile.

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[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
This whole conversation started because I said Ed Reed should walk away while he still can.

I know how the NFL works, I have two friends who play in the league… It’s a pretty jacked up situation if you aren’t an all star.[/quote]

But if he quits before he suffers some crazy injury he can’t join in on these lawsuits against the NFL for getting hurt while he played…[/quote]

I bet he could make a case with this one.

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[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
This whole conversation started because I said Ed Reed should walk away while he still can.

I know how the NFL works, I have two friends who play in the league… It’s a pretty jacked up situation if you aren’t an all star.[/quote]

But if he quits before he suffers some crazy injury he can’t join in on these lawsuits against the NFL for getting hurt while he played…[/quote]
Usually the lawsuits are from lingering effects after they have stopped playing for awhile.[/quote]

I was being somewhat facetious with regards to previous comments, like players who are in those lawsuits still talking about how they’d have made the same decisions if they could. What logic is that?

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

With all the CTE info and player health concerns I feel like a lot more players would be inclined to walk away a little earlier in order to preserve their
Health. [/quote]

You only live once, and it is hard to walk away from millions of dollars.[/quote]

Exactly, you only live once so why live a shortened shitty life where you can’t walk, eat or live on your own because you have the mental capacity and mobility of a 95 year old.[/quote]

I agree with you, but it is hard to walk away from the money. These kids live in the now, and want to get paid.[/quote]

I don’t think it’s the money, it’s the life. I live in the south where football is king. Football is all he knows, it’s all he’s been doing for the majority of his life. Here it starts really young. If you show talent at a young age, football is the backhole around which your whole life revolves. From youth were it takes half of you life you move on to high school where it occupies most of your life. I know, I have a high schooler who plays. That Nkemdiche, Griffin and all the guys who committed to ol’ miss, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia are coming from the school district my son attends. All they do is football. All my son does is football and he’s not being recruited. Then college it’s more football, everyday all the time. Then you make it to the pro’s, obviously there is nothing else.

So to go from all that noise in to the deafening silence and obscurity of retirement I would imagine is very difficult.

So while he should walk away while he still can walk, I can totally understand why he doesn’t want to leave the only thing he knows.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Anybody know if DB is OK? I thought he would have jumped in and told everybody to fuck themselves and lick his balls by now…[/quote]

I’m pretty sure he’s staying away to avoid the ridicule that he’ll take lol.

But in regards to the Ed Reed talk… He should retire like Lewis. He just won a ring, he is old, he should have plenty of money and hasn’t really had any major injuries that I can think of.

He should walk away on top while he can still walk.[/quote]

What ridicule? The only person who can talk any shit about how the Super Bowl turned out is the ONE Ravens fan on this whole site. Other than his team, the Niners were heads and shoulders above the entire NFL and are already the odds-on favorites to win it all next year.

Pat? He can choke on an Atlanta cock for all I care. He sounds like a fool touting Alex Smith as the better QB than Kaepernick. Wouldn’t expect anything less from a guy who has watched exactly ONE championship in the entire 150+ year professional sports history of his city. The guy simply doesn’t know what championship-caliber players in ANY sport looks like.

Gettinitdone sounds like another dumbfuck football fan with his bogus claims that Matt Ryan will be a better QB than Kaepernick when all is said and done. Like history means ANYTHING in sports. Was he pointing to the fact that the Niners had never lost in the Super Bowl as one of the reasons that they would win? Of course not, because none of that has bearing on the game. I laugh at the notion that anything that Vick or Newton or any other QB has done has any impact whatsoever on what Kaepernick will do. And for the record, Steve Young was as pure a pocket passer as there ever was in the NFL for his entire starting career. I should know. I was in Candlestick for all but a handful of his starts between 1991 and 1999.

If every GM in the NFL could choose a QB for the next ten years and the two choices were Kaepernick and Ryan they’d all take Kaepernick. Clearly Gettinitdone hasn’t watched Kaepernick play a whole lot if he thinks he’s a running QB. The guy is a pocket passer who happens to have a ton of speed. Ask Pat and his fucking Falcons what Kaepernick can do from the pocket. The guy will UNDOUBTEDLY have a better career than Ryan and he has ALREADY proven to be a better clutch performer than Ryan is.

Ryan is a fucking choke artist with a weaker, less-accurate arm than Kaepernick has. He’s also way smarter, which is an important trait for any QB and is a reason why Newton and Vick bear no comparison to Kaepernick. The guy’s Wonderlic score was more than two standard deviations above the mean, whereas Vick and Newton’s score COMBINED was less than Kaepernick’s.

Anyone who’s actually played football in their lives can see that Ryan’s ceiling is Kaepernick’s floor. Doesn’t take a genius to notice that Kaepernick consistently rifled the ball through tight windows with more velocity than any other QB in the game is capable of all season long for the 49ers.

As far as not being around the last few days, it has nothing to do with the Super Bowl. It’s just a fucking game. A game I happen to have been unhealthily emotionally invested in, but so what? I’m also an SF Giants fan so at least I can take some comfort in knowing that I just watched two World Series winners in the last three years and will be watching a contending team again this year, regarding both baseball AND football. No one else on this site can say the same thing about their favorite baseball and football teams.

I’ve been away because I have a fucking life, which includes working while trying to fill out a shitload of paperwork for a job with the State Department out in South Korea that I just accepted. Sorry if I haven’t been around to argue with you guys about the Super Bowl. The Niners may have lost the battle, but ten years from now they will have won the war and reaffirmed their position as one of the premier sports franchises in the world. That isn’t something that any other football fan can say in this thread. The only franchises that can even think about making a statement like that are the Cowgirls, who are going nowhere fast and haven’t done a fucking thing since 1995, and the Steelers, whose future isn’t nearly as bright as the 49ers’ is.

And I sure as shit am glad that I haven’t had to root for some phony-as-shit, murdering, cheating, thuggish caricature like Ray Lewis for the last fifteen years. Watching Barry Bonds put a Giants uniform on for almost 15 years was bad enough. I can’t imagine what any Ravens fan with half a conscience must be going through knowing that they’ve been cheering on one of the biggest pieces of phony shit to ever put on a football jersey.

No, thank you very much. I’ll take my Niners over any other team any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. It was a horrific loss for me personally, but I got over it really quickly knowing that I’ll probably be watching them contend for a Super Bowl title every year just like the old days. Fuck, can’t expect a team to go to the Super Bowl six times without losing.

And fuck yeah I’m bitter about my team losing? So what? At least I can admit it, unlike most of you other motherfuckers (Pat) who watch their pitiful franchise fall short every year and then slam everyone else’s far more storied teams in a misguided attempt at making themselves feel better about the fact that the pinnacle of their teams’ histories is falling short. Most other teams’ fans would be happy just to get to the Super Bowl. But when you’re a 49ers fan that doesn’t work. Unless you’re a Steelers, Patriots or Cowgirls fan, you’ll never know what that feeling is like.[/quote]

LOL when the fuck did I say anything about Matt Ryan…?I like Colin Kaepernick. The loss may be getting to your head more than you think.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Anybody know if DB is OK? I thought he would have jumped in and told everybody to fuck themselves and lick his balls by now…[/quote]

I’m pretty sure he’s staying away to avoid the ridicule that he’ll take lol.

But in regards to the Ed Reed talk… He should retire like Lewis. He just won a ring, he is old, he should have plenty of money and hasn’t really had any major injuries that I can think of.

He should walk away on top while he can still walk.[/quote]

What ridicule? The only person who can talk any shit about how the Super Bowl turned out is the ONE Ravens fan on this whole site. Other than his team, the Niners were heads and shoulders above the entire NFL and are already the odds-on favorites to win it all next year.

Pat? He can choke on an Atlanta cock for all I care. He sounds like a fool touting Alex Smith as the better QB than Kaepernick. Wouldn’t expect anything less from a guy who has watched exactly ONE championship in the entire 150+ year professional sports history of his city. The guy simply doesn’t know what championship-caliber players in ANY sport looks like.

Gettinitdone sounds like another dumbfuck football fan with his bogus claims that Matt Ryan will be a better QB than Kaepernick when all is said and done. Like history means ANYTHING in sports. Was he pointing to the fact that the Niners had never lost in the Super Bowl as one of the reasons that they would win? Of course not, because none of that has bearing on the game. I laugh at the notion that anything that Vick or Newton or any other QB has done has any impact whatsoever on what Kaepernick will do. And for the record, Steve Young was as pure a pocket passer as there ever was in the NFL for his entire starting career. I should know. I was in Candlestick for all but a handful of his starts between 1991 and 1999.

If every GM in the NFL could choose a QB for the next ten years and the two choices were Kaepernick and Ryan they’d all take Kaepernick. Clearly Gettinitdone hasn’t watched Kaepernick play a whole lot if he thinks he’s a running QB. The guy is a pocket passer who happens to have a ton of speed. Ask Pat and his fucking Falcons what Kaepernick can do from the pocket. The guy will UNDOUBTEDLY have a better career than Ryan and he has ALREADY proven to be a better clutch performer than Ryan is.

Ryan is a fucking choke artist with a weaker, less-accurate arm than Kaepernick has. He’s also way smarter, which is an important trait for any QB and is a reason why Newton and Vick bear no comparison to Kaepernick. The guy’s Wonderlic score was more than two standard deviations above the mean, whereas Vick and Newton’s score COMBINED was less than Kaepernick’s.

Anyone who’s actually played football in their lives can see that Ryan’s ceiling is Kaepernick’s floor. Doesn’t take a genius to notice that Kaepernick consistently rifled the ball through tight windows with more velocity than any other QB in the game is capable of all season long for the 49ers.

As far as not being around the last few days, it has nothing to do with the Super Bowl. It’s just a fucking game. A game I happen to have been unhealthily emotionally invested in, but so what? I’m also an SF Giants fan so at least I can take some comfort in knowing that I just watched two World Series winners in the last three years and will be watching a contending team again this year, regarding both baseball AND football. No one else on this site can say the same thing about their favorite baseball and football teams.

I’ve been away because I have a fucking life, which includes working while trying to fill out a shitload of paperwork for a job with the State Department out in South Korea that I just accepted. Sorry if I haven’t been around to argue with you guys about the Super Bowl. The Niners may have lost the battle, but ten years from now they will have won the war and reaffirmed their position as one of the premier sports franchises in the world. That isn’t something that any other football fan can say in this thread. The only franchises that can even think about making a statement like that are the Cowgirls, who are going nowhere fast and haven’t done a fucking thing since 1995, and the Steelers, whose future isn’t nearly as bright as the 49ers’ is.

And I sure as shit am glad that I haven’t had to root for some phony-as-shit, murdering, cheating, thuggish caricature like Ray Lewis for the last fifteen years. Watching Barry Bonds put a Giants uniform on for almost 15 years was bad enough. I can’t imagine what any Ravens fan with half a conscience must be going through knowing that they’ve been cheering on one of the biggest pieces of phony shit to ever put on a football jersey.

No, thank you very much. I’ll take my Niners over any other team any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. It was a horrific loss for me personally, but I got over it really quickly knowing that I’ll probably be watching them contend for a Super Bowl title every year just like the old days. Fuck, can’t expect a team to go to the Super Bowl six times without losing.

And fuck yeah I’m bitter about my team losing? So what? At least I can admit it, unlike most of you other motherfuckers (Pat) who watch their pitiful franchise fall short every year and then slam everyone else’s far more storied teams in a misguided attempt at making themselves feel better about the fact that the pinnacle of their teams’ histories is falling short. Most other teams’ fans would be happy just to get to the Super Bowl. But when you’re a 49ers fan that doesn’t work. Unless you’re a Steelers, Patriots or Cowgirls fan, you’ll never know what that feeling is like.[/quote]

LOL when the fuck did I say anything about Matt Ryan…?I like Colin Kaepernick. The loss may be getting to your head more than you think. [/quote]

I confused you with Countingbeans. Sorry, all you dumbfucks sound the same to me so forgive me if I confused you with another one.

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http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap1000000137989/article/2013-nfl-draft-luke-joeckel-chance-warmack-could-top-field

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/165100

Wow has to be a joke.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap1000000137989/article/2013-nfl-draft-luke-joeckel-chance-warmack-could-top-field[/quote]

Alex Smith for Percy Harvin. Whaddya think of that trade? Minnesota has a backup QB starting for them in Ponder and he would be a good fit on an obvious run-first team. Harvin would fill a void at WR and returner, given that the Niners won’t resign Ginn, probably will shitcan Moss and might cut Mannningham if he has any delays recovering from ACL and PCL surgery.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/165100

Wow has to be a joke.[/quote]

I like the Niners taking Tavon Austin at #31. They need someone like him on offense, hence the Harvin for Smith proposal I set forth.

What they really need is depth and/or a starter on the defensive line AND in the secondary. But there is a ton of quality defensive linemen they could get in later rounds and there’s at least a few good cornerbacks to be had in rounds 2 and 3. Austin reminds me a lot of DeSean Jackson, but with more versatility since he can line up in the backfield as well. I think that would make him a very intriguing player to use in the pistol formation. I don’t think they’re very happy or satisfied with A.J. Jenkins at all and might shitcan him after this next season if he doesn’t step things up big-time.

Sharrif Floyd going to the Raiders would surprise me, as would Warmack dropping out of the top 5. Even if he does, there’s no way that the Jets take a WR over him at #9.

There’s a possibility that the Niners use some of their 14 picks this draft and/or Alex Smith to acquire a pick in the top 10 or 15, along with their pick at #31. If that happens, I’d love to see them take Jonathan Cooper out of UNC and move him from guard to center. He has all the physical tools to play center since he has very quick feet and moves well in space. He might also be a tad undersized to play guard right away. If the Niners could somehow package Smith and a few picks to someone like the Jets or the Cardinals for their first-rounder and then landed Austin and Cooper, they could theoretically still find some quality depth along the defensive line later in the draft. I don’t think it would take anything more than maybe a third and fourth round pick along with Smith to land the Jets’ pick at #9.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I confused you with Countingbeans. Sorry, all you dumbfucks sound the same to me so forgive me if I confused you with another one.[/quote]

lol… It’s okay man. Kapernick is the best ever, like no other and nothing at all, ever will stop him.

Yup. After 10 starts let us get the bust ready…

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I confused you with Countingbeans. Sorry, all you dumbfucks sound the same to me so forgive me if I confused you with another one.[/quote]

lol… It’s okay man. Kapernick is the best ever, like no other and nothing at all, ever will stop him.

Yup. After 10 starts let us get the bust ready…[/quote]

Give me a fucking break, man. You really think that previous history has ANY bearing whatsoever on how good Kaepernick could be? That’s what’s known as a historian’s fallacy. What makes you think that Matt Ryan will be better than Kaepernick when all is said and done? He’s already better than Ryan is.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
You really think that previous history has ANY bearing whatsoever on how good Kaepernick could be? [/quote]

No. And you are not reading what I’m saying correctly.

I’m saying, history says that it is a bit early to shrine this kid as the second coming. For many many reasons, so we should pump the breaks a little before we crown a kid with 10 career starts.

I’ve addressed this, and don’t believe I ever said he would be.

This year, yes he was.