Lurx,
I believe what BBB means about that protocal being very financially important to him, is that
he gets paid to train people. Giving out info that he makes a living with…if you know what I
mean. He is across the pond from us, and I am in Texas, and I think that is why he told me about it
and then said that.
BBB,
Gotcha. Just trying to read through all this info.
QUESTION:
Is using GHRP 6 what is making me slightly tired several times a day? In the late morning, I could
shut my eyes and take a quick nap. Again, later in the afternoon too…and lastly I am exhausted by 7:30 PM in the evening. A few times I fall asleep for 10 minutes accidentally about 8 PM, then I am awake for another 2-3 hours, then I fall asleep for the night.
Someone at Prec Peptides told me that I would start to feel exhausted late in the afternoon from it…just wondering. I am eating about every three hours too…and certainly could add more Carbs to meals to give me a little more energy…
Just wondering if this tends to make you tired…and if it has anything to do with the extra growth or pulse, and the energy your body is using at that point…?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Before this thread devolves aven further:
Simpster is doing a prolonged fast. Not great for BBing, but excellent for other reasons.
FD uses the more BB friendly method of intermittent fasting which can be excellent for physique improvment.
TX has acknowledged that intermittent fasting can lead to improvments in physique, but states that long term fasting is probably a bad idea in his opinion.
FD then got defensive, which is possibly understandable since the content of TXs’ post ia a little ambiguous - until you read it slowly and carefully, taking account of the punctuation.
SUmmary: both TX and FD agree that IF can work. Simpster is not doing IF.
Can you be friends now, because I was liking this thread, you irrascible cunts!
BBB[/quote]
BB is gaining muscle and saving money on food whilst his pallet enjoys being reacquainted with real chocolate once again ;-D
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
i was just curious as to WHY CHOCOLATE… and no i dont really believe the NO2 is what makes all the difference.[/quote]
… Because it’s simple, tasty and EFFECTIVE. Why complicate it?
BBB[/quote]
I think thats just it: it seems TOO simple to work! And who equates eating chocolate with building muscle and burning fat, it just sounds like an oxymoron-I know its not-I just think thats how it sounds to most people.
I think I would have dismissed that advice if it had come from another source-especially one not from this site, just being honest.
Anyway, lets eat chocolate bars and be merry!
BB
P.s I’d like to hear more about this fasting: BBB, is there a way we can incorporate chocolate bars into the fast? -how cool would that be? LOL
And just as I said I would, I just weighed myself and I’m 230LB’s. I was expecting to be slightly over and think I was in the week but I went out and had a few drinks last night at a 40th party I couldn’t miss so haven’t eaten properly today. I’m hoping/aiming/working towards 240LB by Xmas so I’ll see if I can do that (without hijacking this thread) I’m just trying to add credibility to the theory I have been extolling.
It would be cool if I could have another 10LB’s of muscle by Christmas. For me just sustaining 230LB’s is an achievement and not something I was able to do before (previously I’d just get an upset stomach from all the food I’d have to eat to reach that weight). I’m aiming for 240LB so we’ll see how that goes; so far I’m back up to, and holding my all time heaviest weight and will hopefully be at least 235LB by the end of October.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
i was just curious as to WHY CHOCOLATE… and no i dont really believe the NO2 is what makes all the difference.[/quote]
… Because it’s simple, tasty and EFFECTIVE. Why complicate it?
BBB[/quote]
i see. just thought i was missing something magical about chocolate lol.
oh and you are absolutely right. i would much rather have some chocolate than a cup of oatmeal
Just googled “ghrp tired” and got about 20 different spots where people said they were either tired most of the day, tired right after pinning, lethargic most of the day, etc… So…the stuff causes some growth, and I can imagine my body using energy doing all this, and therefore making me feel tired.
I am thinking I need to put in more carbs. Maybe every protein drink I have during the day I will put in Carb powder…
CHANGING IT UP this week.
My wife is out of town, and I am Mr. Mom all week, so my workouts will mostly
be first thing in the morning after I take the girls to school. Soooo, I decided to just go with
dosing post workout. If I lift each day this week, then I will dose right after I get home. If I
miss a day, I won’t do anything. And the days I lift and dose after, I am going to use the 200 mcg
dose to see what happens. If it doesn’t interupt my sleep, I want to see if it makes me so lethargic
during the day. I noticed the fatigue most when I went to 2 x day, maybe once I won’t?
Also, going to try it on my elbow tendonitis as well. I know there are much less receptors in the area
around my elbow…and some or most may not even get absorbed. Going to pinch the skin near my elbow, and
then put it in Sub Q in that skin area. Using 200 mcg dose with that too. This morning was my first,
did that at wake.
So today, I did elbow for 200 at 7:30 AM, then worked out from 8:15 to 9:15, then went home and did 200 the normal way at about 9:30 AM.
I presume I will get lethargic later this afternoon. So I will bring a protein drink with 40 g of
Carbo Gain in it…maybe that will give my system something for energy at that time.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
i was just curious as to WHY CHOCOLATE… and no i dont really believe the NO2 is what makes all the difference.[/quote]
… Because it’s simple, tasty and EFFECTIVE. Why complicate it?
BBB[/quote]
I think thats just it: it seems TOO simple to work! And who equates eating chocolate with building muscle and burning fat, it just sounds like an oxymoron-I know its not-I just think thats how it sounds to most people.
I think I would have dismissed that advice if it had come from another source-especially one not from this site, just being honest.
Anyway, lets eat chocolate bars and be merry!
BB
P.s I’d like to hear more about this fasting: BBB, is there a way we can incorporate chocolate bars into the fast? -how cool would that be? LOL[/quote]
But if you are dping what I think I told you to do, then you ARE incorporating chocolate into the fast.
I probably said soemthing like ‘eat nothing but some protein and a little fat for the 16 hours before training, then stuff your face with carbs’.
BBB[/quote]
So far you just advised me on gaining weight, so I am yet to try fasting until the new year at the earliest. I’m just keeping it simple so far, just adding the two chocolate bars pre workout and making progress… If I get the 240LB by Christmas then I’ll likely get ambitious and go for the 250LB, which is the biggest I’d want to be. But at the moment I’m focusing on 240LB LOL, baby steps…
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
CHANGING IT UP this week.
My wife is out of town, and I am Mr. Mom all week, so my workouts will mostly
be first thing in the morning after I take the girls to school. Soooo, I decided to just go with
dosing post workout. If I lift each day this week, then I will dose right after I get home. If I
miss a day, I won’t do anything. And the days I lift and dose after, I am going to use the 200 mcg
dose to see what happens. If it doesn’t interupt my sleep, I want to see if it makes me so lethargic
during the day. I noticed the fatigue most when I went to 2 x day, maybe once I won’t?
Also, going to try it on my elbow tendonitis as well. I know there are much less receptors in the area
around my elbow…and some or most may not even get absorbed. Going to pinch the skin near my elbow, and
then put it in Sub Q in that skin area. Using 200 mcg dose with that too. This morning was my first,
did that at wake.
So today, I did elbow for 200 at 7:30 AM, then worked out from 8:15 to 9:15, then went home and did 200 the normal way at about 9:30 AM.
I presume I will get lethargic later this afternoon. So I will bring a protein drink with 40 g of
Carbo Gain in it…maybe that will give my system something for energy at that time.
[/quote]
LOL this is why I didn’t need to respond to YOU calling ME a joke…Um do you even know what the fuck you are putting in your body? GROWTH HORMONE RELEASING PEPTIDE, it stimulates the pituitary to release gh, it does not act on where you inject it lol so putting it in your elbow will do nothing, that is retarded. Increased levels of growth can help with tendinitis but injecting a PEPTIDE into that area does nothing.
Today I injected for the second time into elbow area. Anyone knows that you inject it into the lower ab area Sub Q. But I have also read from about 6 people that have done it in an area that bothers them. And at 8 bucks a vial, that seems to last about 3 weeks, I am doing it. It feels today. Having tendonitis for two years gets a little old, so I am doing at like 30 cents a dose…if it is a waste, I have thrown less than a buck at it so far. (Go ahead haters, and now tell me that I can’t buy G 6 for 8 bucks…go ahead. Gives you something to do I suppose.)
Anyway, only using the last of this vial in elbow. I noticed today particularly, that I am not tired now. It is about 2 hours post dose, and for a couple weeks I have been tired a lot. This dose went into elbow, and there aren’t near as many receptors as in the lower ab, so it does not affect me nearly as much. If it helps my elbow, well, I guess I will spend the $ 1.50 a week for a week or two to find out.
Good thing I am not a Doctor, or a Scientist, too much pressure. Everyone out there knows much more than I do. And I am half as smart as people half my age ! But the nice thing is, there is no pressure on me to know anything !!! LOL
I am probably going to swap my other vial of G 6 with GHRP 2, and try it for a while. I have read several posts from guys that say the 2 does not make them tired. I know the rec dose is 1 mcg per KG, so just under 100 will do just fine. I fixed my low Test issue because I wasn’t sleeping, and was tired all the time. And now, although G 6 is supposed to be wonderful, and probably is, I just don’t need to go back to being tired all the time. This is like nunmber 6 on my priority list, family, work, etc come first. So I just want to see if the 2 makes me tired as well. If it does, we’ll find something else.
Does everyone know how to start a thread? If you want to start your own thread, its really pretty easy…just have to go and do it. Then you can talk about yourself and everything you know. Which
in my case is not very much, but pretty entertaining.
Hopefully I will be able to see if there is a difference between ghrp6 and ghrp2. And I wouldn’t do it so quickly, except I am about out of the G6 vial, and my friend works for the company I get it from and has a couple G 2 in his freezer. I know I will give up the hunger from they G 6, but frankly I do not get that anymore at a 100 mcg dose. Would have to be 250 with my experience to get the hunger benefit. So I will give that up with G 2…but that’s fine.
TX: My friend, a very experienced, albeit slightly (IMHO) reckless steroid user told me, based on his extensive personal experience that the only discernible difference between GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 was more fat loss and less appetite from the GHRP-2. I’ve never used GHRP-2 but thought I’d pass on his findings in case they are of any interest to you. I’m certainly interested in how you get on with this, thanks for sharing.
232LB today 
Thanks Budda…nice on the weight !
I didn’t type it, but common sense tells me there is very little chance that G 2 will not make me feel lethargic afterward just like G 6. BUT, beings the cost is about the same, which is very minimal, I thought I would try the Ghrp 2 just to see if by some chance it does not fatigue me as much.
A couple thoughts…I just hold out a very slim chance that it won’t, but I do know that growth hormone and the secretion of it probably causes fatigue. And ghrp 2 is probably going to make me tired too… 
Just want to find out for sure…a couple guys said it did not make them tired…but I hold out very little hope.
The other thing…if I want to stick it out, is that a few people have said that the feeling of fatigue goes away after a couple months. So if I am going to go a couple months, I just want to see which one is more suited for me.
Two weeks ago I fell back to 193 after synus infection, but today I am back up to 198 ! Funny, I know that when I lift my muscles (I think a little due to the G 6) hold water. I didn’t lift for a week, and probably just lost all the water, huh ! That said, I cannot really tell yet if the Ghrp 6 is doing anything for me or not. It’s only been about 3 weeks, so probably pre mature on results. Read a lot of places that it takes 2-3 months to show results…
The weight thing…I know that some days I go in and have more water in my system…but I just log everytime I hit a new high. I am very consistant that way, and even though part of my weight gain that day may be water…if I hit a new high that I have never hit before, then I log it. That now becomes my goal to break. I may be just logging the up spikes, but at least I am consistant. When I hit 202 last month, that was the first time ever in my life. SO now I wait and work hard to try and hit 203. Someone will no doubt say at some point when I hit 203 ,“that’s probably all water weight gain.” But the thing is…the next time I hit a new high, it is consistant.
PS…feels like England today here? Cool, Dreary, damp, and misting ?
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
PS…feels like England today here? Cool, Dreary, damp, and misting ? :)[/quote]
LOL that sounds like England!
Only did dose of 100 near elbow…and due the fact that it is not rec’d well in that area, obviously,
I did not get lethargic mid morning today. Have normal energy today, very happy to have that back.
May try night only dose tonight, right before I go to bed, see how that works…
I was right. Noticed a HUGE difference in energy today. How can I tell? By not dosing G 6 this morning, with the exception of in my elbow where there are a lot less receptors and some probably gets wasted, I did not get tired at all today. I had energy all day, and even into this evening. I can tell a huge difference, cause my wife is out of town and I have my two little girls all week alone. Had plenty of energy to keep up with them today, much less train the client before going to work, and then pick up the girls and train another client tonight. Get what I mean…I had enough energy…
Using the GHRP 6 during the day saps my energy, so I moved the time to about 7 PM tonight. If I can get it to do its thing before I go to bed, it may workout that I am really really tired just in time to go to sleep?
And, as I said, if I switch to the G 2, then I expect the same tired issues…but just going to try it to find out for sure.
I traded my other Ghrp 6 to my friend who reps for PP, and he gave me a GHRP 2, and a PEG MGF to try. Interested to find out about the PEG…if anyone has used it let me know.
And rather than switch to GHRP 2 right away, I have about 2mm of liquid left in the G 6 vial, so going to finish it first. Then the GHRP 2. Then my friend said I should move to the PEG after that. I have a lot to read about to learn about the PEG…
But after month, I should know how the three affect differently.
It has been exactly an hour since my dose as I type this, and the tiredness just started. Like clockwork…