Newbee and Ghrp-6

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NIGHTTIME DOSE

Last night, I did the night dose of GHRP 6 at approx 7:00 PM. Got girls to bed, showered, went to bed,etc.

Woke up at 11:00 PM, about 90 minutes after I fell asleep, to my heart beating…not racing, just a beating a little stronger and faster than usual. And I was completely awake. This stuff allows “power naps” I think, and the 90 min of sleep I got was great. But only 90 minutes ! Went to kitchen and ate some granola and protein and peanut butter, and went back to bed. Slept from about Midnight to 6:30. (Keep in mind I have always needed about 8 hours of sleep…)

Going to move up night dose to about 6:00 or maybe slightly earlier, like right before dinner.

But when I took that dose, about an hour after I realized how tired this stuff makes me cause I had not done any all day and was fresh all day.

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Did dose in elbow this morning…then I just lifted at Noon. Went home and did a 50 mcg dose post workout. (GHRP 6). Waited the 20 minutes and then ate a good lunch. To think of it, I accidentally forgot to do my post workout shake. Oh well…that’s a first.

It has been a full hour, and I can still tell that I did the 50 mcg. It is much less noticeable, but I feel a little bit lethargic. Not as bad as when I do 100 mcg, but it is still there.

As for the elbow, and I know it probably doesn’t make any sense, but I did the 100 mcg dose at waking in the top of my elbow…where the tendonitis has been the worst. It feels much better than it did three days ago…must be mostly luck. But I felt the bottom part of my elbow, which is usually sore too. (The top is called Tennis elbow, and I think the bottom part is referred to as Golfers tendonitis…or some other sport.) But the bottom area is still very sore. There is a huge difference between the top and bottom soreness. Top feels great. Bottom very sore.

So tomorrow, for the heck of it, I am going to dose at the lower part of the elbow to see if I can make that pain go away. And I know, this is probably in my own mind that it feels better, but if it works, I’m not going to complain. Been over two years I have carried tendonitis in my right elbow.

I am researching PEG MGF, and there is not near as much out there for feedback as there is with the two GHRP’s.

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guess ill ask here since the other thread is dead…

i’m starting to doubt whther my g6 is still good or not… had it at room temp for about 7-10 before i could refrigerate

100 mcg = no hunger so today i tried 200mcg and still no hunger… maybe ill try a 300mcg shot tonight

any thoughts?

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I only used GHRP2 for 5 weeks with Modified GRF (1-29), and I used mainly in the morning, and sometimes pre/post workout. It didn’t make me tired all day, but the 20-30 minutes following injection were bad. Weak legs, heart rate up, feeling like shit. And I wonder if it did anything positive… It might have helped for tendon pains but that’s it. I ate a lot more and didn’t gain much fat, but since I was trying to lose fat, it didn’t help that my appetite was up.

As I’m off cycle I have an itch to try again as it’s supposed to help keep gains, and by using it alone I guess I’d be able to gauge the positives more accurately, but the shitty feeling was so high I wonder if it’s a sane thing to do!

As for the chocolate bars before training, I think sure, if we’re on the go. Otherwise, a blend of higher quality fats and carbs should be better… All the fructose and modified palm oil etc. can’t be all that good!

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MAF,

I was told to refrigerate mine right away. As to the dose = hunger, I got it best at 400 mcg. I get no hunger at all on 100. In fact, one morning I did 100 at wake, and had nothing but 2-3 cups of coffee till about 11:00 that morning. Was a unique morning, but didn’t make me want to eat, even on empty.

I have gone 3 weeks on this one, but it has been in the fridge the whole time.

At 400, if no hunger/hypoglycemic feeling after dose, probably is dead.

SwD,

I would LOVE to get away from the tired feeling an hour after dose. And I don’t have my hopes up that I won’t get it even if I change to GHRP 2. BUT, your post gives me a tiny bit of hope? Have you ever tried
GHRP-6? Wondered if it made you tired after. ALso, I wonder if the GRF covered the fatigue somehow…?
I do know I am not effective at my job with the fatigue. Some days I couldn’t even think fast enough, it was that noticeable. And I have to work to pay bills for my family, or I won’t be able to even afford gym membership ! :slight_smile:

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Interesting video on Chocolate.

The guy reminds us that chocolate does not have caffiene in it, rather Theobromine. Then he calls Theobromine an activator and Dialator…that opens cells. Reminds me that someone told me chocolate has the ability to move NO2 gas into muscles.

And no, this is not a thread on chocolate. And I am not saying that everyone should use chocolate.
Its just that I use it pre workout…and I JUST FOUND THIS INTERESTING…that’s all. Don’t read any
more into it. And also I DON’T guarantee that this guy is qualified…I just found it interesting.

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As to post ahead of this…I can’t put the link in there. Forum rules.

But it did talk about Theobromine, and its ability to sort of dialate blood cells,

which was interesting. It also talked about CaCao,(spelled differently) being a better chocolate for

you because it did not have the cream, milk, and sugar in it.

That is why I have hopes that the Cocoa I put in my pre shake is doing something.

I have had GREAT Bicep pumps when using that…makes sense.

So the cocoa, the powder I use, and in cocoa in the bars, is probably doing something good.

And I am using the sugar and carbs in the bars for fuel while working out…which also helps

move the protein into the right place too.

All observations, not facts outta Webster’s… :slight_smile:

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First and foremost; this chocolate and protein before workouts thing is just genius!!! I’ve been doing it 3 days now. I had 2 jugs of Torrent which I was using post workout but moved it to pre along with one hershey’s dark bar and the energy and pumps I am getting are amazing.

Torrent has 20gms whey hydroslates plus 52 grams of carbs from waxy maize and glucose polymers along with 8gm of lucine. It alos has creatine and a few others in it. I used to use a pre WO energy/NO drink but I haven;t needed it with this combo and I have much better energy and pumps with he torrent +choco. Thanks BBB. Tried a lot of pre wo crap in my day and this is by far the best yet.

Ok, G6 question now. I’ve only been hitting it 4 days now 300mcg a day 100 am/100 post/100 pre bed. Would my pumps and energy in the gym be partly because of the G6 so soon?? Also, does anyone else feel extremely hot for about 15 minutes after taking the G6?? I am also taking it along with 100mcg of CJC 1295 (DAC) as well.

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Ink, I got the queezy, dizzy, or some people say hypoglycemic feeling for 15 min after dose when I did
400 doses. But I don’t notice it at all with the 100 mcg dose. May be the combo that’s doing it for you.

Also, if your pre already has carbs,and glucose in it, you are probably right doing the dark chocolate with less cabrs and sugars. Or you could put Baking Cocoa in with it. Nothing in that except just the cocoa…isn’t soluable, but will mix in with the rest…

Good for you.

BBB, What do you know about PEG MGF ? I have a vial, but don’t know enough about it.

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I never tried GHRP6, only GHRP2. Even though the fatigue didn’t last all day, it was still there! I mean, I take PEDs to feel and perform better, not to feel like crap! If it helps keep gains off cycle and helps tendons/injuries, it might be good. Otherwise peptides suck IMO. I’ve never tried HGH but I hope there’s no such side effects!

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SwD, I agree. I just don’t function well being tired. And I simply assume that anything to do with Growth Hormone will make you tired, just due to the the body having to do that extra pulse of growth. But I don’t know that much yet.

Driving to work today, I wondered more about the PEG MGF… Still trying to read stuff on it.

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I haven’t noticed any fatigue at all. Maybe the CJC 1295 is helping with that. I do notice a nice relaxed feeling most of the time though. I also notice that I don’t need the amount of stimulants as before to get going to train. I used to get all jacked up on pre workouts before I trained but now I have a nice steady energy and a lot more focus as well.

My pumps have been insane as well. I attribute that partly to the hersheys/torrent combo as well. One thing I’m a little disappointed in is my recovery doesn’t seem as good as I expected it to be. It seems I’m staying sore longer than usual. I’m wondering if that has anything to do with no carbs post workout. I do also notice some relief from the elbow and forearm pain I’ve been dealing with for a while; hoping the shoulders get on board soon too.

Also, does anyone else notice a good bit of swelling in other sites other than lower abs?? Hit the top of the thigh ( sub q) this morning and I have a pretty good knot and a bit of soreness. Thinner skin, less fat maybe???

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Thanks BBB.

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Bi’s and Tri’s today.

Ink, I stopped using Superpump, NO Explode, etc…just like you…I get enough energy without a pre drink now too. And at 47 yrs old, that stuff is slow to get out of my system, wakes me up all the time to pee, etc. So happy to see it go.

You mentioned pump. I gotta show you this. Here is everything I did today. Got up, ate some oatmeal, couple cups of coffee, the usual, went to work at 8:30 AM. At 11:30, flew outta here to go train. Got home at 11:55, and immediately scarfed down three of the economy size Hershey bars. Then I mixed up my shake, which is milk, two heaping tblspns of baking Cocoa, 40 g of protein. Drank that down. Waited about 20 minutes and went to gym. Took ONE purple Kre Alkylin Creatine pill right before I got to gym. Nothing else.

Did 4 x 20 Hanging wipers, then Triceps and then Biceps. Did dorianyates.net bi and tri workout. 5 sets for each, very heavy, out of the gym in 45 minutes. Got a GREAT pump. Home ten minutes later, took this picture.

And keep in mind, 2 years ago in May 09, I weighed a grand total of 162 lbs at 6’1". VERY skinny. And NO, I don’t think I am MR Universe, I am just very happy to have this progress. I would imagine most guys on here are bigger than I am. Two years ago that arm belonged to a very, very skinny guy.
But check out the pump today. I attribute it most to BBB and choc bars, some additional Cocoa, and the Creatine.

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This is me May 2009…

Hopefully you can see a difference. :slight_smile:

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Nice work Hawk!! I came from the opposite direction. I was a fat slob around 2005-2006. Was one of those “eternal bulking” guys. Now I walk around at 175-180 and I keep BF under 10%. Still looking to add though. I’m wondering ifthe G^ has anything to do with the pumps and vascularity I’m getting as well, or if it’s all good ol Hershey’s and Torrent.

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Ink, I wondered that myself. I talked to my PP rep today a bunch about the G 6, and that stuff is just
making growth hormone happen either again, if it wasn’t going to pulse on its own, or happen even stronger, if it is dosed when your system is doing its own pulse. Is that confusing? :slight_smile: But, it is your system doing what it usually does, either more often, or at a stronger rate. All that said, I’m not very smart but I think that is going to just basically grow more soft tissue, or grow it more often.

So…I think, and don’t know for sure, but just think, that the pump is due mostly to the vascular (if I am using that right) properties of the Theobromine in the chocolate. One guy called pure choc a Dialator of cells.

I think I read above that your Torrent has Creatine in it, and if so that is probably aiding in the pump as well. Yup, just looked and you said it has creatine in it. I think it has to be the combo of the Creatine and the Choc. In fact, I get a better pump when I use the Creatine with it…and I just basically use the Creatine on arm days for that help in the pump.

I looked at my arms when I got done today,…remember how skinny I was…and the skin was actually so tight it was stretching from the pump. That and the vein going across that arm in the picture was like being squashed up against the skin wall by all the muscle pushing against it.

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TIRED / FATIGUE with G 6

I spent an hour on the phone with my friend who reps for PP, and after we talked and talked and he asked me tons of questions, I think we have an idea to try and combat/avoid the fatigue that sets in an hour after dosing GHRP 6. And frankly, this is just an idea we are going to try and play out…it may, or it may not help.

Turns out, after all the reading about waiting at least 20 min after dose to eat carbs or fat because those two things would inhibit G 6’s effectiveness… AND, the fact that I got so hungry with the initial higher doses of G 6… we found something I was doing pretty constantly. With the post workout doses, I was waiting 20 min after dose to drink my post shake. It has 20 g protein in it, in milk, and also 40 g of Waxy Maize (CARBS). Every other day I worked out, did dose after gym, then drank this shake.

Also, after nearly EVERY wake up dose, I would wait to have my breakfast for 20 min after dose. AND, my breakfast is ALWAYS two packs of instant Oatmeal. (CARBS)

With the evening dose, I would usually have some milk (CARBS) and a couple protein balls that are made with peanut butter (CARBS). Sometimes middle of the day I would have chicken salad 20 min after dose, which has mayo in it. (CARBS).

The higher dose days a month ago, I was always really, really hungry and would grab all kinds of food to eat, which were prolly heavy in …
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CARBS. !!!

So, he tells me that the Carbs were prolly spiking Insulin, and at the same time I was getting a growth pulse, which releases something kinda like tryptophan (NOT REALLY IT, but something that made me tired. The combo of the Insulin spike, and then running out of carbs after they were burned up, as well as the releasing after affect of the pulse, was all working together to make me VERY TIRED.

I know, it is really REACHING…but it is something.

I am going to clean up diet, try and avoid carbs, and basically keep carbs a few hours away from the dose time. Wake up, dose, wait 20, then eat some boiled eggs for breakfast, with maybe a couple pcs of chicken. After workout, don’t dose, but rather do my post workout drink to help after the workout. And beings there is prolly already a pulse going on after workout, let that happen by itself and then wait till later in the afternoon to dose. Clean up diet, carbs only before and after workout, dose at wake up, with no carbs for breakfast, and second dose mid afternoon.

I am sitting here and just pinned 100 mcg about 75 min ago. I waited a while, then ate a salmon packet with one pc of swiss cheese, which has like one or two carbs in it. Through down a hard boiled egg too. It is now 75 minutes after dose, and I am not feeling the hard onset of normal fatigue at all !!! Feel it maybe a little, just to know its there, but not much at all.