Thx Budda. I just worked out and got doe at 11:30. Did 100 mcg, and waiting for 20 to take POST shake.
I felt great in the gym today. Lotsa strength. Then again, if it was powdered Carbs in the 5 mg vial, some of this is mental for me so far. And THAT ain’t bad either ! Part of lifting heavier is mental…
Today being Saturday, and lift day, I will do 100 post lift, and then 100 about dinner time tonight.
I did get uglier… Never thought THAT could happen. I wonder if that is a side affect ???
Another note…I have read a lot about how Carbs can affect this. I took my 100 40 minutes ago, waited 20 min, then did my post workout shake. 20 g protein in milk, with 40 g Carb powder. For the second time, when I do that, I think the Carb shuts down the Hunger “Pangs.” Now the question is does it keep peptide from working completely, or does it just shut off and cover the Hunger part? We’ll see in time.
Happy with it so far.
Follow up to my Props to Precision Peptides. I ordered on Tuesday, and rec’d it on Saturday. That is four days shipping, and that is not the more expensive express. That is their normal shipping.
Just sayin, they are rockin. I know the Company president was ill two weeks ago…I think bout with Cystic Fibrosys?..but things are fantastic the since. The earlier order I made on Sunday got her on Tuesday, and I paid the extra $ 35 for Express shipping. But two days!!! Nicely done.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Thx Budda. I just worked out and got doe at 11:30. Did 100 mcg, and waiting for 20 to take POST shake.
I felt great in the gym today. Lotsa strength. Then again, if it was powdered Carbs in the 5 mg vial, some of this is mental for me so far. And THAT ain’t bad either ! Part of lifting heavier is mental…
Today being Saturday, and lift day, I will do 100 post lift, and then 100 about dinner time tonight.
I did get uglier… Never thought THAT could happen. I wonder if that is a side affect ???[/quote]
LOL, I’m glad you’re happy with your progress!
I’m due to ‘cruise’ soon, and when I do (on prolly 200-300mg test a week) I think I’ll re introduce GHRP-6 as a ‘boost’.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Another note…I have read a lot about how Carbs can affect this. I took my 100 40 minutes ago, waited 20 min, then did my post workout shake. 20 g protein in milk, with 40 g Carb powder. For the second time, when I do that, I think the Carb shuts down the Hunger “Pangs.” Now the question is does it keep peptide from working completely, or does it just shut off and cover the Hunger part? We’ll see in time.
Happy with it so far.
Follow up to my Props to Precision Peptides. I ordered on Tuesday, and rec’d it on Saturday. That is four days shipping, and that is not the more expensive express. That is their normal shipping.
Just sayin, they are rockin. I know the Company president was ill two weeks ago…I think bout with Cystic Fibrosys?..but things are fantastic the since. The earlier order I made on Sunday got her on Tuesday, and I paid the extra $ 35 for Express shipping. But two days!!! Nicely done.[/quote]
I have found that throwing a couple of raw eggs into a shake helps suppress/satisfy hunger the same way as carbs would. I don’t count carbs but I do try to minimize them and only have them when I ‘feel’ I need them as my job can be physical. If I’m not working then on that day I’ll have a protein shake with flaxseed, 2 raw eggs and maybe some ground oats depending how I feel. Then have 2 gammon steaks and 2 eggs later for breakfast then perhaps a couple of apples if I feel I need the energy. I usually study on my days off so a sugary red bull or something similar usually does the trick; then 2 snickers pre training and a shake say 30 minutes after depending how I feel then a bigger meal later perhaps with carbs again depending how I feel, but If I find myself in Nando’s I’ll order rice with my chicken and not worry about it
Cool. Good stuff. I used to do raw eggs, but now days I am skeptical of eating them before cooking them. In the US, we see all kinds of news about contaminated food, and germs in food, at the plant, at the farms, and in the grocery store. But I like the idea of them in a protein shake. Not a bad idea.
I am coming very, very close to 50, and I have now stablized my T pretty well. It was awefully low back in Jan, and now I keep it pretty reasonable with a 100 shot each week. Makes me feel pretty normal.
I’m still getting a feel for how the G-6 is working, but seems pretty well. Very early yet, on about the 4th day I think…maybe 5th.
I’ve just finished a 40 day run of GHRP2 + Modified GRF(1-29) and still can’t really say if it worked or not. I know that it was real stuff as I felt really shitty after a dose as many have described - so much that I question taken this. I mean one the main goal for me is to FEEL good, and this ain’t doing it. It seems that I have less tendon pains but I also have a great new therapist so who knows.
One other observation: My post workout meal is NOWHERE near the size it used to be before I ate the 2 chocolate bars pre workout. I made my usual sized meal a few weeks ago and ate about two-thirds of it and was nearly sick because I felt so full! A protein shake about thirty minutes after is adequate (I crave less carbs post workout to) then food as and when I feel like it ( though I obviously don’t wait until I’m really hungry).
I actually bought ten snickers bars in the supermarket earlier to throw in my gym bag!
Melanotan literally makes me heave and nearly throw up, but I like being ‘tan’ so I just ride the storm as its tolerable though not particularly pleasant.
question: How does GHRP-6 act if I eat a meal, then do the dose a half hour later? Or 45 minutes later? Does it always have to be pre Carbs, or did I read that you just need to keep it 20 minutes away from Carbs…either before or after.
That, and someone alluded to their point that the appetite surge goes away after a little while…that true?
Since I started using it, I have had a slightly harder time falling asleep at night. Totally wiped out and exhausted, but takes a while to fall asleep. Then, I am awake after 7 hours of sleep. I can’t tell, but I think the 7 hours is straight through most times…but I wake up refreshed at 5:00 AM. Thats an hour before my wife gets up, and 90 minutes before I usually do.
Maybe I should reset my hours, and plan on getting up at 5:00. When I go back to sleep, it makes me wake up tired after that, so not good. And, I have noticed that by 7 PM I am totally wiped out. So its odd that I feel exhausted at 7 PM, then fall asleep by 10, and then wake up at 5…and I am exhausted by 7 again.
We’ll see… Maybe the sleep is THAT good for 7 hours, that I should get up and get going.
The appetite surge does disappear after a short while, like I mentioned I used to be able to shoot 500Mcg and only need a shake after to keep me feeling full for the next hour or two.
Thanks. Yesterday I did a 100 dose about an hour after eating something…and I was able to calm down the appetite a little…had some Salmon with a pc of Swiss on it and two hard boiled eggs. So this morning, was gonna wait till post Noon workout, but I did a 75 dose. Did it an hour after my oatmeal breakfast. And again, the hunger was something I could handle well… had my typical egg, saus, cheese muffin. I can still feel the hunger working…so I know I am not blocking it.
Questions still…
If I wait 20 min after dose, I can really cut the hunger off with Carbs. Like Waxy Maize, for ex. Knocks the hunger out. BUT, if the Carbs do that, do they hurt the effectiveness of this when they do that?
And, if I dose after meal, 45 - 60 min after…does it hurt the effectiveness?
Last night’s sleep… I fell asleep pretty well, and stayed asleep. But then I still woke up way early. Turned over, went back for another 15-20 min, and did this a couple times. Probably should just get up.
BUT I am jealous of those guys who say they get 8-9 hours of sleep on this ! Wondering if I should
take the late dose right before I go to sleep, and then throw down a protein shake with some Waxy Maize in it to block the hunger so I can sleep? Will try that tonight.
I feel like my upper body is a little full of water, and swole up a bit. I also feel a little bigger than before. Granted, only the first week…but…
I have successfully combated the hunger pangs of GHRP-6 with protein and fat and protein and carbs; which one is better? You’ll need to ask BBB to clarify and I think it has something to do with meal timing around workouts etc but I try to keep my carbs to a minimum according to how I feel.
I wasn’t aware that the timing of GHRP-6 around meals could alter its effectiveness, but I’m not very knowledgeable on it… I also didn’t FEEL any difference when I went over 300Mcg a day, so maybe less is more, or at least more is not more LOL.
Sleep: I have ALWAYS had trouble sleeping and rarely get what would call a good nights sleep. There is a Nootropic supplement which is a great help but I have to rotate its use to maintain its effectiveness. Also hill sprints or treadmill sprints seem to knacker me out and help me get a good sleep; a ten minute jog to warm up followed by one minutes running flat out alternated with a minutes walking until I’ve hit twenty minutes (including the warmup) followed by a ten minute walk to warm down does the trick. For some reason having a protein shake in the middle of the night when I wake up helps me get back to sleep to-weird!
Also TXHawkeyes: If you’re eating more carbs than normal to suppress the hunger you may well be holding a little more water, from-I think-‘hydrolysis’. Try having a ‘fattier’ meal, like ham and eggs, it worked for me, maybe because there are more calories in the protein and fat than the carbs.
Also I THINK that the GH released by the GHRP-6 helps break down the fat stores for energy, which wont work as well if you’re eating more carbs than necessary. But don’t quote me on that!
My way was: Carbs to a minimum; GHRP-6 before food so you don’t eat more than you need, or after food if you want to eat more to gain weight; two snickers pre workout whilst I’ve got few carbs in me (so if I trained in the morning it would be a protein shake upon or soon after rising, Gammon and eggs for breakie, then two snickers and a red bull 10-20 mins pre workout); carbs in post workout meal according to how hungry I am-I can’t go to low on carbs as I am quite active.
Hmmmm All great stuff. I have read many places that 100 - 150 mcg is max…and anything over is not used. Not that I know, I have just read it is all. One other gentleman talked about how this stuff makes you crave sweet stuff. It does me, well it did…but as I get more used to it, the hunger attacks are easier to control.
Funny thing, my wife is on the Keto diet, and her carb intake is absolutely minimal. She is doing great. And you are right, I am holding water. My wedding ring used to be baggy and loose, and now it is uncomfortably tight.
Going to try one tonight, right before bed time. And have a protein shake after 20 min. I mix mine with milk and there are enough carbs in milk that maybe those carbs are enough to make me get too hungry. From what I have seen, this stuff can really make you inhale the carbs.\
Do you get a little hypoglycemic, or feel a little dizzy or weak, about 16-18 minutes after dosing? I was wondering if that goes away in time. With my after workout dose, it doesn’t happen…again, cause I still have a bunch of carbs in my system from the pre workout.
Incidentally, I am still eating three small Hershey Bars and drinking 40 g of protein with milk, 35 min pre workout. I do add in a little powdered milk for an extra carb or two, and also add in 2 tspn cocao for the chocolate benefit…in my pre drink. IT’s going well…
PS, I am 47 yrs, 6’1", and finally up to 202. I started two years ago lifting, and was 162.
I haven’t mixed my protein shakes with milk for YEARS now, find yourself one that tastes nice mixed with water! BBB advised me to eliminate wheat and dairy from my diet ages ago, and whilst I can’t say I stick to that religiously I certainly do keep them to a minimum nowadays and don’t miss them at all.
I usually drink a sugar free stimulant drink in the morning so that would mask any lethargy I may have felt.
You sound like you’re doing great; I’m on (self administered) HRT, so I take Adex weekly which prolly helps combat bloating. I have NEVER used GHRP-6 and been ‘natural’, plus I seem to be quite paradoxical so what works for me may not work for you; all i can do is share my experiences.
Also I’ve never been bigger than 230LB, and thats on the steroids so I’m no giant. I’ve spent the last twelve dropping back to 210LB’s with upset stomachs and working back to 230LB’s then dropping again… basically playing catch up. Now I’m about 225-228 (leaner than I was previously) so hopefully I’ll break the plateau and surpass the 230 very soon! I would like to get up to 250LB, and although I shouldn’t let it bother me the vitriolic steroid comments are starting to surface again (I’m big compared to my peers) and I don’t really like the negative attention, so fuck knows what 250LB’s would be like. I’ve already had (from a 30th party I was at a couple of weeks ago) ‘my mums a nurse and she says you’re on steroids’ etc. Shame people have nothing better to talk about than my lifestyle choices; sad really…
Hope that got your attention. For the last week (the first week on ghrp6), I have been taking an avg of 2 doses per day…100 on workout days, and 75 on off days in between ( i lift every other day). For this whole week, and my wife helped me confirm it yesterday, I am falling asleep about 10 PM at night. I sleep for about 4 - 2 hour intervals, waking up every two hours. Nothing else has changed from my normal routine, since starting the G. What advice might you have sir? I have read all over the place that people get great sleep from it, …not me.
My normal routine, prior to last week and still, is taking 2 - 3mg Melatonin and 1 - 25 mg Zinc before I got to bed. Up until last night, I had not done a dose right before bed. So I did 100 right before bed, and waited 20 min and had a protein shake. Same effect on sleep as it has all the last week.
OKAY… I found out one thing. I rechecked my dosing, and I was actually doing 200 mcg per dose. Was shooting for 100 mcg, and did the math in my head for a 1 ml pin. But I actually got .5 ml pins, and went the opposite direction and did double. So knowing that, go back to my sleep problem and know that I was dosing 200 mcg avg of twice a day. ( And I had read from a couple guys that had been doing 300 mcg and getting wonderful sleep…so knowing I was doing 200, instead of 100, doesn’t tell me much.)
And THAT ain’t bad either ! Part of lifting heavier is mental…