[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I wish i had the money to do CJC with my 2 GHRP shots. But i just cant swing it. I have seen how much more effective it will be. So maybe once med school gets done crushing me into deep debt i will be able to add in the CJC but until then i just dont think it is feasible.[/quote]
Sounds like you’ve got your priorities right, CJC does make a BIG difference, but it’s not like all your gains depend on it.
What you could do is buy a bottle of CJC and just use it with one of each GHRP shots a day? Not ideal but should effect a difference.[/quote]
I was given one vial of the CJC 1295 WITH DAC, which if I am correct stays in the system for a few days…so I may just use that occasionally.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I wish i had the money to do CJC with my 2 GHRP shots. But i just cant swing it. I have seen how much more effective it will be. So maybe once med school gets done crushing me into deep debt i will be able to add in the CJC but until then i just dont think it is feasible.[/quote]
It’s hard to figure it all out.
I saw a “stack” of 2 bottles GHRP 6 and 2 bottles CJC 1293 on PP for approx. $ 18.95 or something close to that, under 20 bucks. That tells you, the 1293 is not THAT effective,
cause it is basically free with the ghrp 6. BUTTTT, I have read that the CJC 1293 was the
only thing out before 1295, and does work in your system, but for a very short time. Hence,
the idea of using it each time you dose GHRP.
That perked my ears, the cost is wonderful. Compared to the normal 2 mg vial of CJC 1295 at like 11 bucks.
I was told the reason CJC is not as cheap as GHRP 6, is basically due to economics. The GHRP is def. in demand, the CJC is not in near as much demand. So there is not as much price competition between companies, and CJC 1295 is obviously not as low as the GHRP.
Okay, for the first time since September, I think the GHRP is doing something with the aid of the CJC.
And I mean something as far as muscle growth and fullness. I looked this morning, and there seems to be a roundness to my upper body, and my legs look a little fuller. I am 3 x day GHRP 6 with CJC, both at 100 each dose. Just finished a CJC 1295 NO DAC, and started CJC 1295 WITH DAC this time. Been using that for 2 days, and this is the first time I have seen any visible result. Maybe I have found my combo.
Great news hawkeyes. Hopefully you keep seeing good results. How is the sleep with the combo? Apetite? Fat loss? or any other sides.
I might look into doing the CJC just once a day and keep the ghrp at 2 times
I agree, the results of GHRP and CJC combined are totally different, in a good way.
Totally different animal altogether; I wouldn’t bother doing GHRP alone again unless it was a before bed shot to help me sleep.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Great news hawkeyes. Hopefully you keep seeing good results. How is the sleep with the combo? Apetite? Fat loss? or any other sides.
I might look into doing the CJC just once a day and keep the ghrp at 2 times[/quote]
The sleep is pretty good. I am still going through all the good sleep cycles, and having dreams…they are not as vivid, that really calms down in time with GHRP. Appetite is good, but not really immediately after the GHRP. Just overall strong appetite. Fat Loss…I am suprised that I am not as slightly “Bloated” as I was with just GHRP 6 alone. With GHRP 6 alone, I tended to gain around my mid section, and really just had to watch it. But with the CJC, it is not burning fat, but I am not having that gain.
If you look into the CJC, I do know that on the PP site, you can get two bottles of GHRP (although they are the 6) with two bottles of CJC 1293 for $ 19.00 or so. I mention this because they are really giving you the CJC 1293 for nothing at this price. Knowing that, I bet you could find CJC 1293 somewhere for a very good price. It is what was out before 1295, and from what I read seems to only last a very short time…so you would have to dose it each time you dose GHRP. BUTTTT, the cost is why I bring it up. Certainly not a perfect way to do CJC, but is one way to fit it into a tight budget.
It’s very unique…I really noticed a difference when I went from CJC 1295 WITHOUT DAC, to the CJC 1295 WITH DAC. I have read that with CJC, it tends to be unique to each person, and I read a lot that the key seems to be finding “what works good for ‘you.’” And from what I have read, I think the Drug Aff. Comp. just keeps the CJC in your system for a longer period…like days… At this point, although too early to tell, it seems to be true.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
I agree, the results of GHRP and CJC combined are totally different, in a good way.
Totally different animal altogether; I wouldn’t bother doing GHRP alone again unless it was a before bed shot to help me sleep.[/quote]
Agreed sir. Both GHRPs, either one, ALONE, werer good for sleep by itself… GHRP 2 ALONE, was good for fat loss.
Re: CJC w/ DAC
NO! DAC = Drug affinity complex. Yes, meaning it stays in the system longer but it causes a GH bleed not spike. GH bleed is bad. GH spike is good. 
Only women should use CJC w/ DAC.
@ Tex
I don’t want to burst your bubble but I’ll be honest. Adding in the CJC w/ Dac likely did not help you put on size. It’s more likely that it blunted the GH spike from the GHRP. I’d put money on the chance that you ‘appear’ bigger because you lost water weight due to smaller GH spikes.
I didnt think DAC was good until i read in another forum that it was good to have it around longer in the system so when there was a GH pulse it would amplify it. But it couldnt amplify it itself. Sorry for the poor paraphrasing i think that was the idea. BUt i knwe from reading here that without DAC is what everyone did.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I didnt think DAC was good until i read in another forum that it was good to have it around longer in the system so when there was a GH pulse it would amplify it. But it couldnt amplify it itself. Sorry for the poor paraphrasing i think that was the idea. BUt i knwe from reading here that without DAC is what everyone did.[/quote]
Yeah, it gets confusing. There are so many different opinions and methods. Then you have guys using GH, slin, AAS, IGF and other peptides that make everything so much more complex and inapplicable in certain situations.
Makes my head hurt trying to sort it out. BBBs contest prep makes my head hurt lol. The knowlege to run all those things in an optimal fashion is astounding.
BBB, if you are gonna visit this thread, can you please throw in your two cents about 1293 and how
compares to 1295 with Dac, and without Dac? I mentioned above that the 1293 is about a buck a vial
when I order it with GHRP 6. There is a reason it is cheap. It is worth doing? The price is great.
If you all say No Dac, then why not use the 1293? I have read it only lasts 5 minutes, but isn’t that
good enough? The 1295 is like 12 bucks a 2mg vial…the 1293 about a buck when it is thrown in with
the GHRP 6.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
BBB, if you are gonna visit this thread, can you please throw in your two cents about 1293 and how
compares to 1295 with Dac, and without Dac? I mentioned above that the 1293 is about a buck a vial
when I order it with GHRP 6. There is a reason it is cheap. It is worth doing? The price is great.
If you all say No Dac, then why not use the 1293? I have read it only lasts 5 minutes, but isn’t that
good enough? The 1295 is like 12 bucks a 2mg vial…the 1293 about a buck when it is thrown in with
the GHRP 6.[/quote]
Like I said, DAC causes a GH bleed. W/O DAC causes a GH spike. Women have GH bleeds. Men have GH spikes.
No it is not worth doing. It will negate the positives of the GHRP6 itself.
What about using the CJC w/0 dac 50mcg 2 with 2 doses of 2. (just because of affordability) Would that be better than 2 doses of GHRP 2 with one with 100mcg of CJC
^I didn’t really understand that.
Sorry. Two options which would be better: AM and PM Dose of 100mcg GHRP 2 + 50mcg CJC 1295 or AM and PM dose of 100mcg GHRP 2 with 100mcg dose of CJC with either the am or PM dose. If option 2 is better i would imagine the PM dose would be best to use the CJC with to help spike the night time GH release as that is the largest for males.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Sorry. Two options which would be better: AM and PM Dose of 100mcg GHRP 2 + 50mcg CJC 1295 or AM and PM dose of 100mcg GHRP 2 with 100mcg dose of CJC with either the am or PM dose. If option 2 is better i would imagine the PM dose would be best to use the CJC with to help spike the night time GH release as that is the largest for males.[/quote]
Oh, I get it now. In another thread I’m pretty sure some one asked a similar question but in regard to healing an old injury. Lack of Mod GRF was the reason in that case too. BBB said instead of dropping GRF completely it would be more beneficial to keep the 2 doses of GHRP6 and have one of them accompanied by 100mcg Mod GRF. So drawing conclusions from that statement, I think it would be better to get all the GRF in one dose if you can only go up to 100mcg per day.
Thank lurx. Maybe if BBB comes through again he shed more light. The explanations works. Just would always like more specifics and the scientific reasons.
Not a problem. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE annoying BBB with tons of questions too 