Newbee and Ghrp-6

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From the small amount of reading i have done GHRP-2 has the no hunger but mostly the same effects as 6. Ipamorelin is a bit weaker than both but does not have a cortisol release…wouldnt this mean ipamorelin would be better pre bed and GHRP 2 assuming you have a partial fast in the day ( i do i hate eating in the morning) would be best in the morning and 6 would be best around lunch or pre/post workout so you can eat.

Also thanks for the sympathies for the Pack. They deserved that loss. Cant believe how they played. It was disgraceful.

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@BBB: not sure if you still check this thread but as to carbs (insulin in particular) affecting the release of GH, CT in a live spill the other day linked a couple studies that showed GH was not affected by insulin release from carbs it was blunted by fat instead…what are your thoughts? I can try and track down the studies if you want.

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GHRP’s only releaase a VERY mild amount of cortisol at saturation. i believe it is negligible until you really start pushing the doses

FWIW i am going to go with GHRP2 my next order. it seems to get better reviews in most regards.

The increase in quality of sleep is great and the dreams get pretty vivid too.

It takes a bit for the IGF to build up so i think that’s why some report noticing fat loss/moderately (more) mass gain gain at around the 3 week mark

IDK if you know who Dat is but i would take his word over CT’s when it comes to peptides. CT is a smart guy and all but Dat is… well Dat. Lol.

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Yep i have read Dat’s writing. Done lots of research. From everything i have read it seems carb will blunt a little fats are worse and pro doesnt do much. GHRP 2 and sleep is great. And the dreams are very vivid and realistic. Quite amazing. I havent had sleep this good in 2 years.

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ah, maybe i’ve been mistaken but IIRC Dat and BBB both said it goes carbs, fat, protein in worst tto best gh blunting.

let me go see…

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Huh maybe i misread. But i have certianly seen a few studies out there that say fats are the worst offender then carbs then pro. I always happy to be enlightened further though

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Huh maybe i misread. But i have certianly seen a few studies out there that say fats are the worst offender then carbs then pro. I always happy to be enlightened further though[/quote]

ehh now that i think about it i only remember BBB saying carbs are worst. Dat may have said differently. i couldnt find anything from Dat personally though

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Huh so what are the thoughts on green fibrous veggies and very lean pro and its affects on it. I eat almost right up until bedtime. Just how my schedule works out so its been hard to give it 30min. But if a very lean source of pro and some green veggies wouldnt have much of a an effect that would help out a ton.

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Also wondering if time permitting it would be benificial even on a gaining phase to do some LISS after GHRP morning administration to help keep fat gain down?

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Also wondering if time permitting it would be benificial even on a gaining phase to do some LISS after GHRP morning administration to help keep fat gain down? [/quote]

yeah, i did that in the past.

takes about 75 mins post injection for fatty acids to be released though

cant comment on your other question about the pro and green veggies regarding the dose. sorry.

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Appreciate the input thank you. BBB said basically the same things. Pro and veggies dont sound like a problem

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Last post was 1-14-12. I took a week off, then went on vacation with family, then took another week, finally lifted on Friday the 3rd of February. Finally had good energy, and had a strong workout.

Got workout in just after lunch. Late in the afternoon, I started GHRP 6 and CJC 1295 both at 100 mcg, and

both at the same time. Did that same combo pre bed, then 3 x Sat, and 3 x Sunday. Gonna stay on that for

a while and see how it goes. Even though the GHRP 6 dose is ONLY 100 mcg, I am seeing after just a couple

days that my hands are just a little bit puffy. I noticed that early on with the GHRP 6 back months ago,

but at 2 x or 3 x the dose. Also, noticing that my little fingers are very, very slightly tingly. Same as

months ago when I started at the higher dose. Dreams are great… All three are wicked good signs that

the GHRP 6 is working well. No hunger…well…maybe just a little bit, but not the hunger surges I had

back months ago. At a dose of 100 mcg, the hunger pangs are near what they are at 300 mcg. And no hypo

feeling at all.

All in all, going to watch for actual signs that the GHRP 6 makes me bigger, and stronger. All this other

stuff is fun, but I would really like to see some evidence that it makes you bigger and stronger. After 4

months, I have no proof at all that either has or happens with GHRP. Not saying it will not, just have not

seen any reason for taking this stuff except for the great sleep cycling. GHRP 2 gave the great sleep

as well, but it also made me leaner. I could eat and eat and wake up with a flat stomach. But with GHRP 2

I still don’t have any legit proof that it did anything for me to make me grow.

Perhaps the CJC was what I needed for that to happen with both. We’ll see. I am hopeful.

I found it odd that the CJC comes 2 mg in a vial. That is less than half the 5 mg of GHRP that comes in

the same vial? Don’t know why…

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^maybe look into IGF DES or LR3. they’re known to do much more for size than G6/Mod GRF… especially considering you aren’t on gear.

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If GHRP 2 can give me fantastic sleep (which i have not slept better in 2+ years. I went from 4-5hrs of non consistent sleep being a decent day to 2 segments of 4hrs solid sleep) and keep me leaner while gaining msucle that is a big win. If it doesnt truly help add muscle that is fine if it does those other two well. If i can eat more and stay lean i would think that i would be able to more easily add muscle because of the calorie surplus But i could be a moron. Either way i cant be happier about the sleep.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
If GHRP 2 can give me fantastic sleep (which i have not slept better in 2+ years. I went from 4-5hrs of non consistent sleep being a decent day to 2 segments of 4hrs solid sleep) and keep me leaner while gaining msucle that is a big win. If it doesnt truly help add muscle that is fine if it does those other two well. If i can eat more and stay lean i would think that i would be able to more easily add muscle because of the calorie surplus But i could be a moron. Either way i cant be happier about the sleep.[/quote]

no you arent a moron lol. that combo will elevate metabolism to a degree and a (slightly) elevated metabolism has been shown to maintain elevated protein synthesis… IIRC

i was just mentioning the size from G6/GRF really becomes apparent when combined with gear. otherwise the gains are usually pretty mild

i’ve recently seen some guys on another board say their results from 2-3x per day G6/GRF seemed equal to about 2iu’s GH ED

edit: oh and you really should add in some Mod Grf to augment the G2. makes a big difference

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
If GHRP 2 can give me fantastic sleep (which i have not slept better in 2+ years. I went from 4-5hrs of non consistent sleep being a decent day to 2 segments of 4hrs solid sleep) and keep me leaner while gaining msucle that is a big win. If it doesnt truly help add muscle that is fine if it does those other two well. If i can eat more and stay lean i would think that i would be able to more easily add muscle because of the calorie surplus But i could be a moron. Either way i cant be happier about the sleep.[/quote]

It’s a give and take, wait till you have a family. I’m with you, it is worth the 8 bucks a vial just for the sleep. And I agree, with the GHRP 2 it helps keep me thin while I eat more than usual. Both the sleep, and the lean, are both worth it.

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Hey LURX,

Here is a question I just put up on Budda’s log…any ideas?

Question.

I am ordering more GHRP 6 and CJC… I am using CJC 1295 No DAC now, almost
gone. Then I have a vial of CJC 1295…reg with Dac to use…after that,

I am trying to decide which CJC to buy. I noticed I can get CJC 1293, 2 of them
with 2 - GHRP 6 for $ 18.95…and I know there is a reason, cause the 1293 only
lasts a few minutes. BUTTT, if I am dosing both together, 3 x day, does it really
matter how long the 1293 would stay in my system?

Or, another, which CJC 1295…Dac, or No Dac. I know one causes a continual “bleed”
and therefore stays in system a couple days…that one must be DAC. But, does that
mean that the NO Dac has to be dosed every time you dose GHRP?

Did notice that it costs about $ 12 for a vial of only 2 mg CJC 1295, and I will go
through a couple of those with each GHRP…so wondering if 1293 would work…

I know it is not as good, but wondering if GHRP WITH 1293, would be better than GHRP
alone…and if so…worth a try as it is bascially FREE with the GHRP 6.

Whaddayathink?

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I wish i had the money to do CJC with my 2 GHRP shots. But i just cant swing it. I have seen how much more effective it will be. So maybe once med school gets done crushing me into deep debt i will be able to add in the CJC but until then i just dont think it is feasible.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I wish i had the money to do CJC with my 2 GHRP shots. But i just cant swing it. I have seen how much more effective it will be. So maybe once med school gets done crushing me into deep debt i will be able to add in the CJC but until then i just dont think it is feasible.[/quote]

Sounds like you’ve got your priorities right, CJC does make a BIG difference, but it’s not like all your gains depend on it.

What you could do is buy a bottle of CJC and just use it with one of each GHRP shots a day? Not ideal but should effect a difference.

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It would be cool if we had a peptde sticky :slight_smile: