[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
BBB, if you are gonna visit this thread, can you please throw in your two cents about 1293 and how
compares to 1295 with Dac, and without Dac? I mentioned above that the 1293 is about a buck a vial
when I order it with GHRP 6. There is a reason it is cheap. It is worth doing? The price is great.
If you all say No Dac, then why not use the 1293? I have read it only lasts 5 minutes, but isn’t that
good enough? The 1295 is like 12 bucks a 2mg vial…the 1293 about a buck when it is thrown in with
the GHRP 6.[/quote]
Like I said, DAC causes a GH bleed. W/O DAC causes a GH spike. Women have GH bleeds. Men have GH spikes.
No it is not worth doing. It will negate the positives of the GHRP6 itself.[/quote]
Lurx, what about the 1293? As in CJC 1293. I know it was out before 1295… I just know that it costs about ten bucks a vial, but they are selling a stack special of 2 GHRP 6 along with 2 CJC 1293 for 19 bucks or so.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
BBB, if you are gonna visit this thread, can you please throw in your two cents about 1293 and how
compares to 1295 with Dac, and without Dac? I mentioned above that the 1293 is about a buck a vial
when I order it with GHRP 6. There is a reason it is cheap. It is worth doing? The price is great.
If you all say No Dac, then why not use the 1293? I have read it only lasts 5 minutes, but isn’t that
good enough? The 1295 is like 12 bucks a 2mg vial…the 1293 about a buck when it is thrown in with
the GHRP 6.[/quote]
Like I said, DAC causes a GH bleed. W/O DAC causes a GH spike. Women have GH bleeds. Men have GH spikes.
No it is not worth doing. It will negate the positives of the GHRP6 itself.[/quote]
Lurx, what about the 1293? As in CJC 1293. I know it was out before 1295… I just know that it costs about ten bucks a vial, but they are selling a stack special of 2 GHRP 6 along with 2 CJC 1293 for 19 bucks or so. [/quote]
Yeah, it’s weird how they label their products but that is the one you want… The one in the “big nasty” stack. Just note they’re only giving you 2/5 of the Mod GRF you’ll need. So you will have to buy 3 more GRF’s for 1 to 1 doses.
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
BBB, if you are gonna visit this thread, can you please throw in your two cents about 1293 and how
compares to 1295 with Dac, and without Dac? I mentioned above that the 1293 is about a buck a vial
when I order it with GHRP 6. There is a reason it is cheap. It is worth doing? The price is great.
That’s the one I was looking at. They pretty much give you the CJC 1293 for free. And yes, I have been using it for a while, and it is only 2 mg in the same vial. Goes fast.
If you all say No Dac, then why not use the 1293? I have read it only lasts 5 minutes, but isn’t that
good enough? The 1295 is like 12 bucks a 2mg vial…the 1293 about a buck when it is thrown in with
the GHRP 6.[/quote]
Like I said, DAC causes a GH bleed. W/O DAC causes a GH spike. Women have GH bleeds. Men have GH spikes.
No it is not worth doing. It will negate the positives of the GHRP6 itself.[/quote]
Lurx, what about the 1293? As in CJC 1293. I know it was out before 1295… I just know that it costs about ten bucks a vial, but they are selling a stack special of 2 GHRP 6 along with 2 CJC 1293 for 19 bucks or so. [/quote]
Yeah, it’s weird how they label their products but that is the one you want… The one in the “big nasty” stack. Just note they’re only giving you 2/5 of the Mod GRF you’ll need. So you will have to buy 3 more GRF’s for 1 to 1 doses.[/quote]
From the way it looks I think they are calling a few different products GRF… Email them just to be sure you order the right thing.
So could you reconstitute the CJC with GHRP or vice versa? Reconstitute the CJC first with the bacteriostatic water then after that has dissolved use that solution to reconstitute the GHRP. Obviously that would only work if the concentrations would come out to work for you. The ones i am looking at are both 5mg vials. So you can reconstitute with 2.5ml and get the same concentration of each and be able to inject 100mcg of each at once. Hope i wrote that so people can understand.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
So could you reconstitute the CJC with GHRP or vice versa? Reconstitute the CJC first with the bacteriostatic water then after that has dissolved use that solution to reconstitute the GHRP. Obviously that would only work if the concentrations would come out to work for you. The ones i am looking at are both 5mg vials. So you can reconstitute with 2.5ml and get the same concentration of each and be able to inject 100mcg of each at once. Hope i wrote that so people can understand.[/quote]
No, you don’t want to mix them. They react with each other and degrade.
Are you asking b/c you’re trying to save on BAC?
Naw i was trying to save needles. So then i could just suck a double dose up in the morning. Then one shot in the morning then the night time shot same pin. Save needles and sticks. Right now i just use ghrp2 and use 1 pin. Pull up a double dose in the morning inject half morning half at night.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Naw i was trying to save needles. So then i could just suck a double dose up in the morning. Then one shot in the morning then the night time shot same pin. Save needles and sticks. Right now i just use ghrp2 and use 1 pin. Pull up a double dose in the morning inject half morning half at night.[/quote]
I just fill my syringes and leave them in the fridge. They don’t really get dull until piercing the rubber stopper a few times… I go sub-q.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
So could you reconstitute the CJC with GHRP or vice versa? Reconstitute the CJC first with the bacteriostatic water then after that has dissolved use that solution to reconstitute the GHRP. Obviously that would only work if the concentrations would come out to work for you. The ones i am looking at are both 5mg vials. So you can reconstitute with 2.5ml and get the same concentration of each and be able to inject 100mcg of each at once. Hope i wrote that so people can understand.[/quote]
When you reconst. the CJC, you are using only 40 % of the BAC that you use for GHRP, right?
The CJC comes 2 mg in a vial, GHRP 5 mg.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Naw i was trying to save needles. So then i could just suck a double dose up in the morning. Then one shot in the morning then the night time shot same pin. Save needles and sticks. Right now i just use ghrp2 and use 1 pin. Pull up a double dose in the morning inject half morning half at night.[/quote]
Just so you are keeping it on the cheap, I get needles for about 8 cents per now, BAC is about 5 bucks for 6 months worth, and the GHRP is about 10 bucks a vial… Also, if you look at the “stacks” they have at P P I am sure the GHRP 2 is in one of em, and much cheaper when it is bundled. Also, each order you build up a little Percy Points, i.e. discount applyable for future orders…
I am not currently using and CJC. I have enough GHRP2 for quite some time so it will be awhile before i purchase again. Everytime i get some money i am forced to spend on somehting. Had to buy a new car as my old one bit the dust. Finally started recovering from that and now i am going to have to put a down payment on an apartment for next year for med school. Money comes in then dissappears. No money for anything fun. Only life.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I am not currently using and CJC. I have enough GHRP2 for quite some time so it will be awhile before i purchase again. Everytime i get some money i am forced to spend on somehting. Had to buy a new car as my old one bit the dust. Finally started recovering from that and now i am going to have to put a down payment on an apartment for next year for med school. Money comes in then dissappears. No money for anything fun. Only life.[/quote]
You should be married with two daughters !!!
No thanks. Med school will rack up enough bills. Damn my budget will get tight in aug.
Wait till you have school loans to pay, AND KIDS.
Randomly decided to chekc my glucose using a glucometer and it was above 100 which is vary suprising. 3 months ago when i tested it fasting i was below 80. So i will lay out what had been done up to this point and then ask my question/hypothesis.
I carb backload so lots of carbs/calories form 630-930pm post workout. I did my shot of GHRP 100mcg at 745. 840-910 i did light/moderate cardio on the elyptical. THen tested my glucose at around 930. Is there any way any of this would have my blood sugar elevated? From reading my hypothesis would be the decrease in absorbiton of glucose by the liver combined with the increased gluconeogenesis from the GH pulse might cause this. I will keep researching but if those out there with much more knowlege in these areas could shed any light as i research further i would appreciate it.
Too much time on my hands today. What about carbs partially inhibits the GH release from GHRP’s? Is it the glucose levels in the blood? Or insulin? I have read that insulin when combined with GH administration is a very effective muscle builder. GH reduces the uptake of glucose by fatty tissue. This is coming form reading in Dat’s posts on another forum. I have not run into the answers yet or if i did i misread them
GH will effect different people different ways I believe. That ebing said, that is one of the downsides to high doses of ED GH. Fasting glucose will always be elevated with some of the higher doses you see going around.
Also, I think it is just the insulin. The insulin blunts the actual GH release when using GHRP’s.
Thanks for the reply Lurx. I wasnt sure that GHRPs by themselves could elicit a high enough GH pulse to have that effect but i guess if people are seeing some muscle building/fat loss help over a long period of time it must create a fairly decent pulse.
Thought of two more questions: 1) If the regime that i am on (the 1 am 1pm dosing of GHRP2) is causing an elevated fasting glucose would it make sense on days when i can to wait to do a dose pre workout around 3pm and then do my normal bedtime dose (even considering the diet that i laid out earlier)? My thought is that it might help lower blood sugar for more of the day then if the GHRP is really elevating blood sugar after my morning dose.
2) I have read that GH helps creat muscle cell hyperplasia in higher doses…does the use of a GHRP create enough of a pulse to create this? I have not been able to find this out on the couple other forums i read.
I will have to look more into the protocol they were using with insulin and GHRPs because i know some where using them together for a better effect (that was the only reason i did not think insulin blunted the release).
Thanks
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
GH will effect different people different ways I believe. That ebing said, that is one of the downsides to high doses of ED GH. Fasting glucose will always be elevated with some of the higher doses you see going around.
Also, I think it is just the insulin. The insulin blunts the actual GH release when using GHRP’s.[/quote]
I don’t think it is. If that were the case, then an insulinogenic protein pulse would be more detrimental than a fat intake. Which is not the case, so…
BBB[/quote]
BBB what do you think it is then the blood glucose levels or some other mechanism?