[quote]sctb wrote:
I picked up some BCAAs+Glutamine+Citrulline, so I’m going to experiment with replacing my water fast with 30g of this concoction (totals 8g leucine). I’m not expecting dramatic results, but since I’m drinking 2L of water during the day anyways I thought I’d put something in it.[/quote]
Wise experiment. Apart from detox and digestion rest I see no real benefits with a water fast when following an IF lifestyle. Hofmekler also appears to recommend using whey protein (albeit his brand!) on this diet.
Of course, may be worth experimenting with both, e.g. aminos on training days and water only on non-WO days?
[quote]tworkinhard wrote:
Gotta quick question for y’all… so I’ve started to cycle carbs on the WD based on what I’m training that day (lower body = high carb, upper body = med carb, off day = no/low carb). I train in the AM, take BCAA’s throughout the day, the eat around 7ish. Being that I wake up, drink some coffee, and go right to the gym, should my carb consumption for that particular day be reflected in the meal I had the night before, or the meal I have at the end of the day? For example, if I train lower body in the AM, should I have my high carb day the night before or later that same day? Hope that makes sense…[/quote]
From personal experience, I like the back load method. I also train in the AM and estimate that around 8 out of 10 times I am stronger next day when I’ve consumed ample carbs. I should qualify this and say I usually always eat some complex carbs, usually rice, daily and am never purely P+F alone. However, the amount of carbs I eat can vary wildly from approx 100g to 400g.
[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Wise experiment. Apart from detox and digestion rest I see no real benefits with a water fast when following an IF lifestyle. Hofmekler also appears to recommend using whey protein (albeit his brand!) on this diet.[/quote]
One possibility is that the insulin release from the amino acids would have a negative effect on fat mobilization, in which case I would expect to notice some effects on my energy throughout the day. I’ll be watching out for that.
[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Wise experiment. Apart from detox and digestion rest I see no real benefits with a water fast when following an IF lifestyle. Hofmekler also appears to recommend using whey protein (albeit his brand!) on this diet.[/quote]
One possibility is that the insulin release from the amino acids would have a negative effect on fat mobilization, in which case I would expect to notice some effects on my energy throughout the day. I’ll be watching out for that.
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I think you are sweating the small stuff. The leucine may cause an insulin response but in the grand scheme of things it won’t negatively affect your fat loss goals. In addition, consuming any food during an IF causes some insulin reaction so the aminos are not unique there. I think the value dervived from the nutrient uptake from the aminos outweighs concerns about the insulin response.
After the best part of 4 months on this eating system I thought I’ve give a summary on my experience:
ADVANTAGES
It’s easy to follow - no need to weigh and measure foods. Eat good, clean, natural produce and let your body guide you regarding macro intake and quantity;
Intermittent fasting (IF) frees you up to get on with life, no more 3-hour feedings;
Dispels some myths about workout nutrition and the need to ingest large amounts of carbs and/or calories around the training period;
DISADVANTAGES
Like many IFs and cycling diets, there can be temptation to binge during the over-feeding period;
Instinctive dieting can be risky especially if you?re trying to lose fat;
Depending on intake, bowel movements can be pretty intense, e.g. 3-4 times on the toilet per day
In summary, it’s good enough for me to stick with it for the foreseeable future. On the whole, I have been able to continue to make progress in the gym. I am not as lean as I’d like to be right now. Part of the reason is I love eating quality carbs and put away a fair bit of rice, as well as oatmeal and honey during my evening feeds. I’ve found it hard to reduce these and go for more P+F meals, although I’m working on that.
As an aside, I have also adopted Waterbury?s PLP daily system (Waterbury is one of the reasons I took up the WD to begin with). My current circumstances mean I’m getting to the gym 2-3 times a week max, so the daily PLP, as well as walking, lends itself well. I generally start eating after doing the PLP each evening.
I take leucine during this just before eating; and a Peptopro formula, or BCAAs, when I go to the gym. I take a heap of supplements in addition.
I’m debating starting the WD. I’m 25, about 215 and 20% BF. I need to get back down below 10%. I have just started a job in banking and typically work from 9am - 12am, but there is a gym in the building so I can work out in the morning or evening. I am considering doing the WD for both mental focus during the day and weight loss, but am concerned that following my 8pm workout and feast I would have to return to work and would then be in a catatonic fed state when I should be my most productive (8pm - ?am). Perhaps the WD is just not for me at this time? Or perhaps I should have something light like a protein shake and some carbs after the workout and then wait several hours to go home before really pigging out?
How have people been sleeping on the WD? I noticed a significant improvement in my sleep quality after I shifted towards having my last meal 2+ hours before bedtime.
What’s the word from those that are utilizing the WD?
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
How have people been sleeping on the WD? I noticed a significant improvement in my sleep quality after I shifted towards having my last meal 2+ hours before bedtime.
What’s the word from those that are utilizing the WD?[/quote]
I have generally always slept pretty well so can’t really give much feedback on that aspect of the WD.
I’m debating starting the WD. I’m 25, about 215 and 20% BF. I need to get back down below 10%. I have just started a job in banking and typically work from 9am - 12am, but there is a gym in the building so I can work out in the morning or evening. I am considering doing the WD for both mental focus during the day and weight loss, but am concerned that following my 8pm workout and feast I would have to return to work and would then be in a catatonic fed state when I should be my most productive (8pm - ?am). Perhaps the WD is just not for me at this time? Or perhaps I should have something light like a protein shake and some carbs after the workout and then wait several hours to go home before really pigging out?
Thanks[/quote]
Nothing wrong with having a post-workout snack to tide you over if you’re training at night but can’t fully dine until a few hours afterwards. Remember, though it’s not meant to be “pigging out”. Hofmekler stresses quality over quantity intake. Of course, the odd splurg is permitted, as it is on most diets, but the principle is quality first.
Anybody using a GDA whilst following the warrior diet? I have been for the past 6 weeks or so with good results… just wondering if anybody else had a similar experience.
[quote]tworkinhard wrote:
Anybody using a GDA whilst following the warrior diet? I have been for the past 6 weeks or so with good results… just wondering if anybody else had a similar experience. [/quote]
Glucose Disposal Agent. Mountaindog’s Ultimate GDA is what I’ve used, also heard of Glycobol and Need2slin. Checkout Mountaindog’s main site, he’s got a good write up on his product, and what GDA’s do in general.