on the video, the way that guy is arching his back and bringing the bar down to his belly button and pushing back up at a awkward angle is some funky $hit.
[quote]Med Pro wrote:
Day 31:
Injected 200mg Deca & 250 Sus250. Went to the gym after that and felt really good. I think cutting my weekly injection to bi-weekly injections feel much better. Thanks for the sugg…
In the morn I take centum, Salmon oil, Flax oil, Milk Thisle, Andro-D Gel, 2000mg Vit C, 20mg Zinc, 50mg Mag, Folic Acid, Vit E2000IU, Yohimbe, Meca, 50mg protien.
1 hr before work outs liquid Amminos, B vit, Centrum and 40-50gms of protein, Andro-D Gel. Post work out 40-50mg protien fluids and meat.
Things are really looking bigger in the mirror and recovery has been good! The HCG worked well. No signs of gyno, hair loss, ect. Oily skin is all I’m dealing with and trouble sleeping again.
BTW!!! WTF?!?!?~~~~~> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2131223751045523694&q=workout&hl=en
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You are already taking HCG? I thought this was more apt for pct?
Anyone?
[quote]Jimfound wrote:
Med Pro wrote:
Day 31:
Injected 200mg Deca & 250 Sus250. Went to the gym after that and felt really good. I think cutting my weekly injection to bi-weekly injections feel much better. Thanks for the sugg…
In the morn I take centum, Salmon oil, Flax oil, Milk Thisle, Andro-D Gel, 2000mg Vit C, 20mg Zinc, 50mg Mag, Folic Acid, Vit E2000IU, Yohimbe, Meca, 50mg protien.
1 hr before work outs liquid Amminos, B vit, Centrum and 40-50gms of protein, Andro-D Gel. Post work out 40-50mg protien fluids and meat.
Things are really looking bigger in the mirror and recovery has been good! The HCG worked well. No signs of gyno, hair loss, ect. Oily skin is all I’m dealing with and trouble sleeping again.
BTW!!! WTF?!?!?~~~~~> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2131223751045523694&q=workout&hl=en
You are already taking HCG? I thought this was more apt for pct?
Anyone?
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Jimfound, who the hell do you think you are?!!
He’s a med PRO! He’s flown helicopters and saved babies that could fit in the palm of your hand! He KNOWS what he’s doing!
Anyone who’s doing his PCT even before he’s halfway through his cycle obviously knows what he’s doing. You, Jimfound, obviously doesn’t… because you are not a med PRO!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: He KNOWS what he’s doing! Don’t tell him otherwise! He’s a med PRO!
ROTFLMFAO… ;D ;D ;D
[quote]Jimfound wrote:
You are already taking HCG? I thought this was more apt for pct?
Anyone?
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The idea of this option is not to use HCG to restart the testes after a cycle, but keep them from shutting down in the first place. Much of what has been posted about HCG doses in the past are typically too high for this. 250IU EOD will preserve testicular function as gauged by research on intratesticular testosterone levels.
MedPro…where you been? You didn’t get shanked on one of your trips to Mexico…did you?
Just came across this thread and his pictures have been taken down…too bad. Are you around? How’s the cycle coming?
DAY 39:
Life get in the way of posting somtimes… Sorry for the laps.
Things are ExCeLLeNt!! Health & performance are excellent, still no major side effect, I’m geting bigger yet. Chest is 50 1/4in cold, arms are 17-17 1/8in cold, people I havent seen for a few weeks say I’m big, I am liking very much what I see in the mirror! I will be posting more pictures… No gyno or hair loss.
I like the split week injections! No drop off’s noted!
People you are missing out if you haven’t tried the stuff!!! The biggest thing to note with AAS is recovery, I work hard & hurt bad but 2-3 hrs to the next day even, No pain! I feel so good that I have to stop myself from retrainning the same body part.
In addition to all my suppliments, I’m Focusing on sleep, 3gms of vit C, Glutimine pre & post, stopped all caffeine!
COTISOL SUCKS!!!
I am following advice of
Very interesting for everyday progress & PCT’s!!! ScArY!!!
[quote]Lifting Power wrote:
Anyone who’s doing his PCT even before he’s halfway through his cycle obviously knows what he’s doing. You, Jimfound, obviously doesn’t… because you are not a med PRO! [/quote] <~~ASS Fool, Don’t be a hater…
To answer a previous Q for Jimfound: HCG mid cycle is exactly as stated. Keeps your nuts from shutting down due to the test I’m taking. HCG did not effect my cycle adversly in any way. You can get the AAS Book by Richard C Daniels page 14 & 15 where it’s reccommended mid & post cycle. Keeping your nuts dormante for to long is a bad idea! Read for yourself!
Which suggests:
“2000-5000 i.u. HCG every 5th day for 2-3 weeks” and talks about LH receptor down regulation as well.
The down-regulation is from too much HCG. Research in 2006 showed that 250IU SC EOD maintained baseline intratesticular testosterone levels. The same research paper suggested that dosing practices should be changed in light of that fact. So maybe a larger dose to jump start things could be done, or get on 250IU EOD HCG from the get-go for the whole cycle. When you start injecting test, LH shuts down very quickly. There has not been any research derived basis for dosing before, do not ignore this new data.
DAY39:
KSman
I find that info interesting. To be honest, I would rather do 250IU daily vs 2500IU mid/post cycle. I was talking today with a doctor friend who actually performs test injections and he said daily doses are what he has known. He said the types of HCG he administers comes in a pen style injection and was about $450 per month supply. He said he see’s the cost coming down as demand increases.
He said HCG works very well for weight loss as I illustrated earlier. His dad (a doctor) does daily test injections and participates in Anti Aging medicine. This week theres a big conference in Las Vegas for MD’s about AAS’s, Test type medicine.
My doctor friend said he is considering starting Test type therapy for himself. He stated that more and more the medical community is becoming accepting of AAS & test therapies…
DAY 41:
Injection day, 250mg Sus250, Deca 200mg
15 LBS of muscle so far.
Weight 250LBS from 235lbs
BP 128/84 Labs normal thus far.
SLIM-FAST VITAMINE LOW CARB DIET SHAKE 11oz CAN, VERY GOOD! 2gms of carbs & 20gms of protein per can, I do 2 cans 3-4 times a day.
med pro could you post your workout routine please, and actual nutrition, not just things like “some more meat.” Since you are going through with AAS I think it’s important you maximize your gains.
Good work man…keep posting.
DAY 42:
Scott aka Rice:
My workout on starting w/Monday
Chest:225,285,315lb 3set ea 7-10reps of flat bench, then incline bench, then decline bench. From there I do 100lb dumbell flat bench 5-7rep/3sets.
Then Cable lower, mid, upper chest “WIDE” fly’s 10 reps 3set ea 32-37.5lbs treadmill 20min
Tues: Tri’s, 3 sets 10rep close grip flat bench 185lbs, then I go to cable pulldowns 10rep/3sets Full stack (220lbs?). Then I sit backwards on the preacher curl bench and do above the head tri extensions 95lbs 3 sets 10reps.
Then I go to the squat rack and set a upright bench and do military presses 10rep/3sets @ 185lbs. Then I finnish w/ flat bench close grip presses 3sets/10rsps @ 185lbs.
Wed: Bi’s. Lower cable curls @37lbs, then I use the curl bar 95-115lbs and do 3sets/10rep concentrated curls very slow, 2 sec up & 2 sec down. Then Cable hammer curls @ 37lbs. Then Back to bench press bar culrs @ 115lbs 3 sets/10rep. Then 21’s @75 lbs. treadmill 20min.
Damm… I falling asleep… I’ll finnish later today!
OK I’m Back
Thurs: Back and Shoulders, Reverse cable fly’s 22lbs 3set/10reps with elbow locked. Then front Cable raises 27lbs - 37-lbs 3set/10reps. Then Cross over cable delt extensions 20-30lbs 10rep/3 sets fallowed w/ bent elbo delt extensions (These frik’n BURN!!!) 3set/10reps. Then cable rows close grip full stack (240lbs?) 3 sets/10reps,
Fri; Off
Sat: Treadmill 20min, Legs, Leg squat 225-315lbs 3set/7-10reps, Leg press 1/4 ton 3set/10rep, leg curl 3set/10rep full stack, leg extension 3eset/10rep full stack,
[quote]Med Pro wrote:
DAY 42:
Scott aka Rice:
My workout on starting w/Monday
Chest:225,285,315lb 3set ea 7-10reps of flat bench, then incline bench, then decline bench. From there I do 100lb dumbell flat bench 5-7rep/3sets.
Then Cable lower, mid, upper chest “WIDE” fly’s 10 reps 3set ea 32-37.5lbs
Tues: Tri’s, 3 sets 10rep close grip flat bench 185lbs, then I go to cable pulldowns 10rep/3sets Full stack (220lbs?). Then I sit backwards on the preacher curl bench and do above the head tri extensions 95lbs 3 sets 10reps.
Then I go to the squat rack and set a upright bench and do military presses 10rep/3sets @ 185lbs. Then I finnish w/ flat bench close grip presses 3sets/10rsps @ 185lbs.
Wed: Bi’s. Lower cable curls @37lbs, then I use the curl bar 95-115lbs and do 3sets/10rep concentrated curls very slow, 2 sec up & 2 sec down. Then Cable hammer curls @ 37lbs. Then Back to bench press bar culrs @ 115lbs 3 sets/10rep. Then 21’s @75 lbs.
Damm… I falling asleep… I’ll finnish later today!
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Doing all those variations for bench in one workout is unneccessary. You’d be better off doing more sets for one type (maybe 10x3) for 2 weeks then switch exercises. I also think you should separate more days between your chest workout and triceps…maybe switch triceps with biceps day. I’ve never had a day just for biceps, seems kind of a waste since your body can recouperate quickly. I’ve seen my best gains doing TBT variations. I don’t know much about AAS, just throwing my 2cents out. Good luck with your progress sir.
DAY 42:
My DAILY supplement Log:
1 Twinlab cher-amino
2 Centrum Liquid
3 Twinlab Super B Liquid
4-Androstenediol
5 Body Fortress glutimine
6 Andro-D Gel Z Labs
7 Relacore
Alpha Linolenic Acid 570mg
B1 5mg
B12 60mcg
B2 5mg
B6 17mg
B6 2mg
B6 50mg
Biotin 400mcg
C 3333mg
Calcium 33mg
Choline Bitartrate 50mg
Chromium 25mcg
Chrysin
Docosahexanoic Acid 240 mg
E 1030IU
Eicosapentaenoic Acid 160mg
Ejaculoid 2pills
Epimedium Leaf Extract 500mg
Flaxseed Oil 1000mg
Folic Acid 500mg
Glutamine 18g
Inositol 50mg
Iodine 150mcg
Iron 9mg
Korean Ginseng 50mg
L-Alanine 1450mg
L-Arginine 1295mg
L-Aspartic Acid 1080mg
L-Cystine 40mg
L-Glutamatic Acid 1880mg
L-Glycine 4140mg
L-Histidine 150mg
L-Hydroxylysine 150mg
L-Hydroxyproline 1955mg
Linoleic Acid 160mg
L-Isoleucine2 260mg
L-Leuciene2 630mg
L-Lysene2 790mg
L-Methionine2 150mg
L-Phenylalanine2 360mg
L-Proline 2540mg
L-Serine 570mg
L-Threonine2 385mg
L-Tryptophan1,2 25mg
L-Tyrosine 100mg
L-Valine2 450mg
Maca Root Extract 300mg
Magnesium 467mg
Manganese 2mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Molybdenum 25mcg
Mucuna Pruriens Seed Extract 50mg
Muria Puama Root 600mg
Niacin 20mg
Niacin 50mg
Oleic Acid 180mg
Omega 3 400mg
Paba 10mg
Palmitic Acid 50mg
Pantothenic Acid 68mg
Predigested Collagen 13g
Progesterone
Riboflavin 52mg
Salmon Oil 1000mg
Saw Palmetto 900mg
Stearic Acid 40mg
Thiamin 52mg
Tongkat Ali 500mg
Zinc 78mg
Protein 1.8g per lb average
WATER!!!
Carbs 50-80g
Weekly:
Deca Durabolin 400mg
Sustanon250 500mg
for 12 weeks of cycle
Mid Cycle: Gonakor HCG 2500IU w/300mcg B12
Post cycle: Gonakor HCG 2500IU w/300mcg B12 for 3 weeks
Nolvadex 20 mg I starting on my last cycle taking for 3 weeks.
My food intake:
8am: Supplemenets, 2 cans of Slim Fast Low Carb (40g Protein) 3 eggs, low carb toast, Sugar free kool aid or low sugar OJ.
10: 1 can Slim Fast Low Carb 1/2 cup nuts or 6oz of Beef Jerky.
12: Steak Burrito 3/4 of Beef, 2-3oz of Cheese, 2-3oz Salsa, Red sause, 1/4 cup onions, 1oz sour cream, 1/2 avacado or… a Sandwitch with 8-10oz of Turkey of chicken on low carb bread 2oz of cheese.
2: Beef jurky and maybe a Slim Fast Low Carb shake
4: Slim Fast Low Carb
6: 1 Lb of steak, salsa or in a sandwitch or ckicken with 1 whole tomato, olive oil, 2 oz feta, Slim Fast Low Carb shake, Amino, B Complex and Liquid Centrum, Glutimine,
8: Slim Fast Low Carb 8oz steak & Slim Fast Low Carb shake.
10: 1/2 cup nuts of 6oz of Beef Jerky & Slim Fast Low Carb.
Post cycle my suppliments will change up a bit to keep what I’ve gained to stave off Cortisol effects post cycle.
I TOOK A PICTURE OF ALL MY SUPPLEMENTS & DRUGS I TAKE IN MY PROFILE PICTURES… It’s CRAZY!!!
Please don’t “QUOTE” this WHOLE post as it takes up to much room.
I would reccomend looking into something more than just nolva for 3 weeks for pct.
A question for you as well. Why would you incorporate androgel and andro within this cycle? I personally think its likley a waste and just more for your body to try to process. Just curious as to your reasoning.
See Ya
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I would reccomend looking into something more than just nolva for 3 weeks for pct.
A question for you as well. Why would you incorporate androgel and andro within this cycle? I personally think its likley a waste and just more for your body to try to process. Just curious as to your reasoning.
See Ya[/quote]
HCG, Nolvadex, Clenbuterol, C 3gm, Androgel-D Progesterone, Chrysin, SuperB Complex, NO CAFFEINE, Natural Herbs, Glutimine, PROTEIN! Will be looking for HMG next Mexico trip and more Clen. Lil any suggestions???
Andro-D Gel by Zlabs w/ 4-Androstenediol 4-AD) is an anabolic testosterone precursor www.bodybuilding.com/store/4andro.html is in my opinion wont hurt. But the main reason I use the product is for the Chrysin & Progesterone.
What’s your thought on this?
DAY 42:
I had to post this!
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/lifestyle/healthfitness/menshealth/part1_4-2.html
This has HELP’d me with the male side effects of cycle’n tremendously. I am very pleased with my performance!
Zinc
C 3g
E 1000 IU
DAY 43:
Scott aka Rice: Training hard while cycle’n is scary becuase the recovery is excellent! I mean, If I hit the same body parts the next day, I would have no problem training as hard. I try to stop myself from retraining the same body part. I get the urge to push myself as I see how huch bigger and stronger I have become. When I end my cycle I’ll train differently, but for now things are going very well.