New Routine, Am I Going to Overtrain?

I like to mix up my workouts about every 6 to 8 weeks. I have done so for about 2 years now.I’m only 18 years old and work a lot and usually average about 6 to 7 hours of sleep a night and sometimes less if i work late. I like to train as much as possible usually 4 or 5 times a week depending on my routine. I run and am in decent shape. I weigh 205 and under 10% bf.

But usually my routines do differ but i never do more than say 3 or 4 machines for one muscle with no more than 4 or 5 sets each little workout. So roughly 9-12 sets on a muscle group once a week.Usually something like Chest and Tri’s Monday, Bi’s and Back Tuesday, Legs Wednesday, Shoulders and abs Thursday,or something along those lines.

But my friend has been telling me that he is doing this other routine that this trainer friend of his told him to try. and he said that he is experiencing a lot of results and is getting a lot bigger than he ever has before. he does one muscle a day. Chest on monday, Back on Tuesday Arms on Wednesday, Shoulders on thursday etc etc. But, he does 20-25 sets on each muscle.

So basically he is beating the shit out of his muscle on that day and he doesn’t touch it again for a week. He was telling me that he lets it rest, and he’s getting stronger, bigger, and faster. I want to try and do this with him but i’ve looked at a lot of different routines and i’ve never seen any like this one. I don’t want to follow what everyone else does all the time and i like to experiment with my body to find out what works.

But even though I am young and consume roughly 150-200 grams of protein in a day will i be overtraining?? I wanted some advice before i started this routine, if i do end up doing it with him. Thanks in advance

you do use free weights right?

why not? you’re only 18. you have plenty of time to try every different kind of routine you want, see what works best for you. give the program a try for 10-12 weeks or until you think your progress has stalled, then switch to something completely different. point is; there are a bazillion different ways to lift, some are shittier than others, but they will all work to an extent for at least a while.

since your 205lbs and i assume you’re trying to gain muscle mass, and not trying to cut fat (cuz you say you’re 10% BF AND you run), you really need to be shooting for like 325g protein daily and consistently keep ramping it up as you gain weight.

[quote]daneq wrote:
why not? you’re only 18. you have plenty of time to try every different kind of routine you want, see what works best for you. give the program a try for 10-12 weeks or until you think your progress has stalled, then switch to something completely different. point is; there are a bazillion different ways to lift, some are shittier than others, but they will all work to an extent for at least a while.
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Yeah, I say why not as well. It honestly wouldn’t be what I would suggest someone do, but I know people who have done well on volume programs like the one your friend is doing. Like daneq said, you’re only 18. Even if you do find that it’s too much for you and you wind up overtrained you’ve still got plenty of years ahead of you to experiment and find out what works best for you.

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since your 205lbs and i assume you’re trying to gain muscle mass, and not trying to cut fat (cuz you say you’re 10% BF AND you run), you really need to be shooting for like 325g protein daily and consistently keep ramping it up as you gain weight. [/quote]

Also agree. You absolutely need to be eating at least 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight if you are seriously lifting (and I’d honestly suggest more like 1.5-2 grams).

k well ya i use a lot of free weights, roughly 90% of my workouts are done with free weights or cables. and this is way off subject but if i’m going to try to consume 350 grams of protein in a day then whats everyones opinion on having a shake in the middle of the night? mess up sleep patterns?

agrees with what they wrote /\

also, you said you avg 6-7 hrs of sleep? interrupting your sleep to take a shake might not be the best option, try eating some cottage cheese right before you get to bed…and try for 8hrs of sleep

heres a T-Nation article on sleep:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459864

read the “snore for more” paragraph to understand why you want no interruptions if possible…

Worrying about overtraining on a program you have not done is overthinking it

Dude your are 18. I will bet my left nutt that the amount of volume and intensity that you are capable of is far beyond anything you have done or will do in the near future.

I agree with ds77. I’ve seen a few threads lately expressing peoples’ concerns about overtraining and I have the same answer to each: cross that bridge when you get to it. Honestly, most people don’t work anywhere near their capacity, let alone above and beyond it. If you do start a new program and find after a couple of weeks you’re feeling like shit, not recovering, not sleeping, losing motivation, want to kill yourself, etc… then it may be time to take a week off and rethink your training strategy.

Yeah, it may be a minor setback, but unless you’re on a contest or competition schedule, so fucking what. You’ve got plenty of time to make up for it and you’ve now learned something about yourself and your capabilities and can take that into account in your next training plan.

In other words, go for it, see how it works and how you feel, and adjust if/as necessary.