I will give those a shot my next workout !
Thanks
Scott
Weāre you then called Jan Michael Vincent in a movie called Tribes? Ha ha
Scott
I think it was a few years later and a few years younger, but let me watch the movie on youtube and maybe it will come back to me.
I used to do these with a cable at the gym, holding onto the weight stack. What a burn!
What did you find wrong with face pulls and lateral raises ?
Scott
The exercises youāve mentioned mostly donāt cause pain, and some are rehabilitative in nature. You question people, including Darden, plenty on here. Someone questions you and itās offputting. I never critiqued your form, I said that your solution of stop everything and let time heal isnāt fixing any problems, and that one should consider whether or not theyāre doing an exercise properly when it hurts.
First you talked about ventricular hypertrophy and lifting and I asked you for studies, as well as someone else, and you started replying to everyone but us. Now youāve made another claim, that hypertrophy of the rotator cuffs can be problematic, and Iāll ask you again if you have evidence of that beyond your diagram.
That diagram is actually useful for seeing the subacromial space in the shoulder there that can disappear quickly if scapula arenāt moving with the humerus, but itās not evidence of shoulder hypertrophy being bad.
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Iāve personally never had any problem with doing overhead presses or any exercises that some say can be dangerous to our shoulder joint . The problem is unless you feel an indicator like pain or something you never know if by continuous use you may be damaging that joint in some way even if you donāt feel it. Some say certain exercises can be dangerous , others say the opposite .Iām sure if you examine every exercise we do you can find some way it can cause us trouble in the long run. Do you just go ahead and do those possible dangerous exercises or find a possible safer substitute? God knows? Being older now and not so indestructible as I used to be I tend to lean toward the wimpy safe side .
Scott
Every exercise has some inherent risk, but ultimately itās up to you if the juice is worth the squeeze. If itās not causing you any problems, donāt waste any thought worrying about it. Youāve been training a long time, donāt doubt yourself.
Thatās easy to say when youāre young. I donāt bring up these issues just for my benefit , Iām over the hill, as much as for those like yourself who feel indestructible now but through years of abuse might wish later on in life when they canāt lift up their arm that they thought more about it.
Scott
Do or donāt do whatever you want - I have 0 problem with that - Iām just saying avoiding pain has nothing to do with fixing the problems that are causing the pain. I donāt take issue with someone not doing something, I take issue with blaming the movement, or blaming hypertrophy itself for causing the problem in the first place. I do believe there are movements that are mechanically going to put you in a compromising position, though. Not saying everything is okay.
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I donāt follow the idea of hypertrophy causing the problem? Thatās way over my head. Maybe thatās why I rarely have problems with certain movements, I rarely produce any hypertrophy , ha ha!!
Not for everyone. For me, pre-workout Plazma works pretty well (subject to I had my breakfast 3-4 hours before), but I stopped using Plazma during the workout, and the post-workout shot of Plazma stays in my stomach for an hour or so. I should admit I have a stomach which is very sensitive to any supplements (in other words, do not digest/absorb them efficiently or at all). For my first two weeks, both Plazma and Mag-10 worked really well and I had no issues at all. Starting from the third week of the program I had some discomfort and considering dropping them altogether or just ingesting them at other times of the day and not around the workout itself.
Try taking the supplements at other times will be your solution.
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Dr D,
On the 10-30 days, I assume folks have been finding the session pretty easy if you are using the exact same loads? Is this the idea?
Also, and apologies if I have missed this, but how would you work in the chin/dip/spint circuits you wrote about on this site with this plan?
Many thanks
I think thats a completely seperate program
Chin, dip, sprint is done separately, it is its own 4 week plan. Iām finishing my last workout of it today. As for 10-30 days Iāve seen him say on the forum before to add 5% to the resistance
Thanks mate.
Iām also keeping an eye out for your log!
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Glad to hear it! Iām extremely excited to share my progress! Are you going to try out the routine by the book as well?
Yes, I was quite content doing my Menzter stuff but the positive feedback on the forum has finally prompted me to get the book and give it a go.
I train from home so there will be a few exercise tweaks but, on the whole, I can pretty much follow it as prescribed.
I used yesterday to give Day 1 a run through. I will do something similar tomorrow and then kick off proper start of next week. Glad I did as I misjudged the load on half of the exercises. Itās clear, given the short rest intervals, strength tapers off through the workout so I want to get as near as damn on my weights before Day 1.
I wonāt be adhering to the nutrition guidelines as I have very different views there. I will also be continuing with my fasting regimen, which should sit quite well on a 3 days a week training schedule.
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Keep us posted James. Looking forward to your feedback.