[quote]derek wrote:
My bad, I thought you wrote this:
Professor X wrote:
Hey, if someone is “getting there” and they are now huge as a result of training like this, I congratulate them. I put much honor into someone who has worked their ass off to make progress to that degree. However, that is not what I usually see evidence of here. The majority of the people training like this on this site are over 250lbs?
Oh, wait, you DID!
Follow?
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I am so sorry, I thought I was having an ADULT discussion. No, I don’t think simply being 250lbs means you have reached a significant point of development. However, if someone is going to imply that I am missing out, I expect to see people as developed or more developed than me training as such with a focuson the majority making such progress.
Follow? Do you understand that the number “250” came up because another poster mentioned it? Let me know if crayons are necessary.
JS: I think certain athletes can benefit greatly from Strongman training. Strength athletes like powerlifters can expect greater hip, back, and abdominal stability, strength, and power from using Strongman equipment like the super yoke, stones, tries, kegs, and sandbags. Bodybuilders can fill the sandbags with chicken breasts to make sure they get their 1200 grams of protein a day, and use the kegs to stock up on posing oil! For combat athletes, I think it can also be extremely beneficial. Lifting oddly shaped, uneven objects will tax your body in a way you don’t normally encounter in the weight room. On top of that, strongman medleys are an unbelievably effective conditioning method. Summarily, I’ve had great utilizing these methods with my football, hockey, wrestling, and baseball clients (just to name a few).
Didn’t you say in another thread that you train primarily with machines because you’re “afraid of getting hurt”? Or was that a joke? [/quote]
I have never said I am afraid of getting hurt and I said I train MY CHEST using Hammer Strength machines lately and then listed the reasons why. In fact, do you need the address to the thread where I went into detail about my training? I was able to bench 405lbs on the benchpress within 3 years of serious training. I then moved to mostly dumbbells until I was moving 140lbs on each. I found I needed a spotter to progress further so I started adding in more Hammer Strength machines which allow me to add weight without the need of a spotter.
I mean, seriously, at least do better at misquoting than you did. That was just lame.
I train by myself. Heavy benchpressing with barbells (something I don’t even think builds the most strength and size) requires a spotter.
Derek, do you need me to list photos of bodybuilders who don’t train that way? I am talking about people on this site who are making exceptional leaps in development being able to attribute this to sled dragging.
For those who are into the strongman implements, I’m interested in getting the huge sandbags. Based on all of your experience, please hook me up on the reputable dealers.
[quote]derek wrote:
Sure, and them write them a letter and see if they’ll compete on any level with these guys and most of the ones I know.
Perhaps you decided to skip my previous posts from an article by Eric Cressey on the subject.
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Compete for what? Bodybuilding? Don’t tell me we are about to get back into the difference between powerlifting and bodybuilding. This discussion is about to get lame if you are about to take the stance that because you train to flip tires that you are better at flipping tires. No fucking shit.
Army/Navy surplus canvas duffle bags. Look in the Strength Sports forum under “My Gym-Pics”. You can see mine. PM me if you need further details on construction.
Just wanted to throw out there that I was able to bring a two mile run from the mid 15’s to low 13’s with mostly sled pulls (strap around waist, primarily). I have been doing a lot of deadlifts, some with chains but I doubt that did much to speed my run up. It helped me keep my upper body conditioning up to par in the absence of my lifting. Not all that much to contribute, I know, but I was REALLY amazed that I set a personal best on that run with sled dragging being my solitary means of training outside of the usual morning Army training. And it’s been fun drawing a lot of stares and rubbernecking from the neighbors and the drivers on my street.
Don’t tell me we are about to get back into the difference between powerlifting and bodybuilding. [/quote]
OK I wont tell you. And you have a short memory. I just wrote that I would never call BB-ers weak (or words to that effect) or any type of comparison. Hey, it was you remember that compared furniture movers to sled draggers/tire flippers.
And bodybuilding isn’t much of a competition. In a sport where having a better tan than the next guy in a Speedo could mean victory, there is no real competition!
[quote]djoh615893 wrote:
Just wanted to throw out there that I was able to bring a two mile run from the mid 15’s to low 13’s with mostly sled pulls (strap around waist, primarily). I have been doing a lot of deadlifts, some with chains but I doubt that did much to speed my run up. It helped me keep my upper body conditioning up to par in the absence of my lifting. Not all that much to contribute, I know, but I was REALLY amazed that I set a personal best on that run with sled dragging being my solitary means of training outside of the usual morning Army training. And it’s been fun drawing a lot of stares and rubbernecking from the neighbors and the drivers on my street.[/quote]
That is GREAT to hear. Congratulations!
It does not suprise me that sled dragging helped in this way.
It’s good for everything! Even BODYBUILDING!
Lifting isn’t all about other people thinking you’re strong. I bet someone already stated this though. It feels good to know you are stronger than others, or if not stronger, I think those lifts give a person a more rugged feeling. Besides, there is nothing better then getting out of the gym and hitting some weights in the sun.
I’m sure tire flipping and sand bag work has more benefit to a wrestler than a lot of conventional weight lifting in a gym. Besides sled dragging has proved to help build some massive squats.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but don’t be so quick to discredit the odd lifts. The gym can get boring sometimes.
Don’t tell me we are about to get back into the difference between powerlifting and bodybuilding.
OK I wont tell you. And you have a short memory. I just wrote that I would never call BB-ers weak (or words to that effect) or any type of comparison. Hey, it was you remember that compared furniture movers to sled draggers/tire flippers.
And bodybuilding isn’t much of a competition. In a sport where having a better tan than the next guy in a Speedo could mean victory, there is no real competition!
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hey derek…I agree with you that grown men posing in little teeny bikinis is even funnier than pulling a sled down the middle of the street. If I had a choice between the two you would definately see me doing the husky.
Nate Dog…I don’t have a problem with you pulling a sled down your street if your neighbours don’t. I do however feel that your time would be better spent packing on muscle in the gym…
You cannot do both to maximum effort.
Building muscle is a very tough job.
Pulling sleds and shit looks hard as well.
If your going to do both then when are you recovering?
150 pounds is not a weight for flipping tires. Eat a steak. Eat some rice. Hit the weights.
If you want to return to strongman lifts after you have packed on some size then go for it. Using weights with compound movements gives concentrated stimulus to the groups involved.
It seems that strongman lifts are more of a total body conditioning thing.
Tell me i’m wrong?
[quote]grey wrote:
Nate Dog…I don’t have a problem with you pulling a sled down your street if your neighbours don’t. I do however feel that your time would be better spent packing on muscle in the gym…
You cannot do both to maximum effort.[/quote]
I do spend the majority of my time in the weight room lifting weights.
[quote]It seems that strongman lifts are more of a total body conditioning thing.
Tell me i’m wrong?
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That is the main use of the exercises I use during one day of the week. It’s a conditioning workout that allows me to still lift fairly heavy and get a total body workout.
My other days are in the weight room to get stronger.
[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
grey wrote:
Nate Dog…I don’t have a problem with you pulling a sled down your street if your neighbours don’t. I do however feel that your time would be better spent packing on muscle in the gym…
You cannot do both to maximum effort.
I do spend the majority of my time in the weight room lifting weights.
It seems that strongman lifts are more of a total body conditioning thing.
Tell me i’m wrong?
That is the main use of the exercises I use during one day of the week. It’s a conditioning workout that allows me to still lift fairly heavy and get a total body workout.
My other days are in the weight room to get stronger.
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