Need Cycle Advise

Pharma
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I have done many cycles over the years. Most of them have been cycles consisting of two or three drugs. I have taken some fairly heavy stuff without any side effects other then an occasional zit.

I would like to take a 16 week or longer cycle and really step it up. I have no problem obtaining pretty much anything. The last cycle I did was 1600 mg a week of sus, 50 mg a day of dbol followed by hcg. I got pretty good gains from it.

A friend of mine said I should do a long cycle and change the drug I’m using every 5 or 6 weeks to minimize receptor downgrade. I would appreciate any input on what I should do. I wouldn’t mind trying insulin but, I’ve never taken it before and frankly…it scares the shit out of me…

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your friend is on the right path …and unless your an expert stay the fuck away from insulin

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any suggestions on what I should take? Like I said, I’ve never had any side effects other then a zit or two and I can get about anything. Plus, I’ve been considering gh. You had any luck with that? Let me know. Thanks

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How big and strong are you now? I take it your looking into a bulking/strength cycle?

Anyway, in all your years and cycles did you ever do the Test/Deca/DBol trifecta? I assume you have.
Anyway, that could lend itself quite well to a 16 week duration.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
How big and strong are you now? I take it your looking into a bulking/strength cycle?

Anyway, in all your years and cycles did you ever do the Test/Deca/DBol trifecta? I assume you have.
Anyway, that could lend itself quite well to a 16 week duration. [/quote]

I am 5’8" and 225 or so. My body fat is around 10% give or take. I have not maxed out in years but, when I’m on, my work out weights are around 405 for 5 on bench, 255 for 6 on military, 335 for 6 on bent over rows, 400 plus on squat.

I am looking into a strength/bulking cycle. I just got off of sus 1500 mg a week and 50 mg a day of dbol. But, it was for only 8 weeks. I did the dbol cause I got a really good deal on it. I’ve had moderate gains from dbol but, not what I want…I believe everyone feels it’s never enough. I’ve done some pretty heavy cycles with no side effects. I want to try something heavier and longer this time.

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Why not just do a variety of Test with some anavar? You could do the Test and anavar long term test at a high dose and anavar at a lighter dose. Test for the bulk anavar for the strength. You could go off Anavar every 6 weeks if you are worried about liver being that it is an oral and just bump up the test a little during the two weeks you are off anavar.

You could do T-bol instead of anavar…just some thoughts. I know those two orals are not known for bulking but with the test they would be great for the strength and they can be done long term relatively safely. I think those two orals are pretty under used, but the anavar is because of cost. T-bol is much less expensive. Very cheap if IP China makes it.

[quote]superdave wrote:
sapasion wrote:
How big and strong are you now? I take it your looking into a bulking/strength cycle?

Anyway, in all your years and cycles did you ever do the Test/Deca/DBol trifecta? I assume you have.
Anyway, that could lend itself quite well to a 16 week duration.

I am 5’8" and 225 or so. My body fat is around 10% give or take. I have not maxed out in years but, when I’m on, my work out weights are around 405 for 5 on bench, 255 for 6 on military, 335 for 6 on bent over rows, 400 plus on squat.

I am looking into a strength/bulking cycle. I just got off of sus 1500 mg a week and 50 mg a day of dbol. But, it was for only 8 weeks. I did the dbol cause I got a really good deal on it. I’ve had moderate gains from dbol but, not what I want…I believe everyone feels it’s never enough. I’ve done some pretty heavy cycles with no side effects. I want to try something heavier and longer this time.
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How about test enanthate, deca and anadrol?

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That sounds like a good combo. How much do you suggest? I’ve taken all 3 before. One cycle I did was 1000 mg a week of enthetate, 400 mg a week of cypionate and I pyramided the anadrol for 6 weeks from 1 to 3 back to 1 a week. I got quite strong and had no side effects. Funny thing though about anadrol and me. I don’t really bulk up when I’m on it. I actually lose fat.

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Yeah that’s the trifecta. Anadrol vs DBol is a matter of opinion. I still tend to prefer Dbol both for overall results as well as costs. But anadrol usually is a good substitute. In your case losing fat is rather odd but oh well.

14 weeks of 800-1000mg a week of TestE/C
12 weeks of 400-600mg a week Nandrolone
25-50mg of Proviron ED
and the Anadrol/Dbol as your kickstart would be a good gainer.

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[quote]superdave wrote:
That sounds like a good combo. How much do you suggest? I’ve taken all 3 before. One cycle I did was 1000 mg a week of enthetate, 400 mg a week of cypionate and I pyramided the anadrol for 6 weeks from 1 to 3 back to 1 a week. I got quite strong and had no side effects. Funny thing though about anadrol and me. I don’t really bulk up when I’m on it. I actually lose fat.[/quote]

1grm enanthate 12 weeks
600mgs deca 12 weeks
100mgs anadrol ed for 4-5 weeks…no need to pyramid up or down…just go with it

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I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)

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[quote]jaredbr wrote:
I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)[/quote]

Where do you get the idea that anadrol and dbol will screw up your liver and kidneys? Have you ever heard of milk thistle and liv52? As far as the pizza face goes you have a better chance of that happening on test and winstrol than drol or dbol.

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[quote]Mr. Shoulders wrote:
jaredbr wrote:
I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)

Where do you get the idea that anadrol and dbol will screw up your liver and kidneys? Have you ever heard of milk thistle and liv52? As far as the pizza face goes you have a better chance of that happening on test and winstrol than drol or dbol.
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I concur. Since introducing myself to Liv52 myself liver function is actually better than 5 years ago before I touched any gear.

Acne wise that is a myth as well. I’m not saying certain people won’t have breakouts but I’d say more people get zits from chocolate than gear.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
Mr. Shoulders wrote:
jaredbr wrote:
I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)

Where do you get the idea that anadrol and dbol will screw up your liver and kidneys? Have you ever heard of milk thistle and liv52? As far as the pizza face goes you have a better chance of that happening on test and winstrol than drol or dbol.

I concur. Since introducing myself to Liv52 myself liver function is actually better than 5 years ago before I touched any gear.

Acne wise that is a myth as well. I’m not saying certain people won’t have breakouts but I’d say more people get zits from chocolate than gear.[/quote]

I only gey zits when I’m coming off and even then, it’s usally only a couple of them. My skin actually clears up when I’m on. From what everyone has said, sounds like enthenate, either eq or deca, and anadrol is the way to go. I was alos thinking of doing gh with this but, for alot longer then 12 weeks or so.

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[quote]Mr. Shoulders wrote:
jaredbr wrote:
I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)

Where do you get the idea that anadrol and dbol will screw up your liver and kidneys? Have you ever heard of milk thistle and liv52? As far as the pizza face goes you have a better chance of that happening on test and winstrol than drol or dbol.
[/quote]

Is the Liv52 an encapsolated oil like cod or fish oil?

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[quote]superdave wrote:
sapasion wrote:
Mr. Shoulders wrote:
jaredbr wrote:
I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)

Where do you get the idea that anadrol and dbol will screw up your liver and kidneys? Have you ever heard of milk thistle and liv52? As far as the pizza face goes you have a better chance of that happening on test and winstrol than drol or dbol.

I concur. Since introducing myself to Liv52 myself liver function is actually better than 5 years ago before I touched any gear.

Acne wise that is a myth as well. I’m not saying certain people won’t have breakouts but I’d say more people get zits from chocolate than gear.

I only gey zits when I’m coming off and even then, it’s usally only a couple of them. My skin actually clears up when I’m on. From what everyone has said, sounds like enthenate, either eq or deca, and anadrol is the way to go. I was alos thinking of doing gh with this but, for alot longer then 12 weeks or so.
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[At higher levels of test I had a hard time sleeping. The addition of HGH helped me rest and was a great addition to any stack I’ve done. Just finished 12 weeks Sustonon/Oxandrolone/HGH. Got good results in strength and size. Did not gain or loose weight, stayed around 220 throughout entire cycle. Just got real hard and cut.

If you have a scrip for anavar, Central pharma out of calif recently started mixing anavar in an injectable, pretty sweet stuff. All the benefits without the problems. Winstrol gave me acne, I did not really like the stuff. The Oxandrolone is a superior product if you ask me.

I would be cautious about long term test injections, when its time to get off the stuff your body may not react to the abscence of the AAS very well. If your going to go to 1000mg PW test make sure you keep a anti E handy.]

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You want a fun cycle?

Try this…

Weeks 1-10
800mg EQ/wk
400mg Test Enan/Cyp/wk
600-800mg/wk Primobolan

Weeks 1-6
50mg dbol/d

Weeks 11-15
75-100mg Tren ace/d
75-100mg Test Suspension/d
75-100mg Masteron/d
50-80mg anavar/d
.25-.5mg cabaser (cabergoline)/day

Week 16 Throw away all your clothes because you’re going to look like a Greek Statue.

T-Matt

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[quote]jaredbr wrote:
I always tell all my buddies to Do a stack of
test 1000mg a week
Eq 600mg a week
whinny depot 50mg ed

I use this one myself if you feel a need to front load on some test use propinate. anadrol and dbol will just screw up your liver and kidneys, and make you look like a 16 year old pizza face kid.

The cycle listed above will give you solid gain that you will not lose much of when you go off with the proper pct’s. Eq will make you want to eat all the time all the time and we all know what test and whinny do.

On top of all that its a cheap cycle to do(good bang for the buck)[/quote]

i’m lovin this gentlemans ideas and perhaps throw in some tren as well at 50-100mg per day for 6 weeks or so.

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OK. This is what I’ve decided on. 1000 mg a week of enthatate for 16 weeks, 750 mg a week of deca for 16 weeks, for weeks 1-4, 500 mg of propionate, weeks 5-10, 90 mg a day of winny, weeks 11-16, 150 mg a day of anadrol, and I will be taking hgh during this entire time too. I will also be taking hcg and clomid.

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I would start with the anadrol and end with the winny but otherwise looks pretty kickass.
remember your clearance times for the esters. you may want to cut the deca short of the test cause it takes longer to clear. Here is a template:

W 1-16 Test Enth
W 1-14 Deca or EQ
W 1-6 Adrol or Dbol
W 1-4 Test Prop and NPP
W 14-18 Winny or Masteron Prop
W 19-22 PCT or test taper
Run adex or nolva throughout cause that is a lot of gear and may give you boobies.
best of luck with your cycle bro
FG