Need a Diet to Gain 25 Pounds

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, I don’t believe your lifts. You can incline 255 for 10 but 225 for 20? That doesn’t add up at all. Second, if you “had the genes for this” you’d already be where you’re trying to get.[/quote]

Dont believe them then. And once you get over a certain nuber of reps, endurance comes into play moreso than strength. However, what you believe is of little consequence to me.

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:

You either educate yourself or shell out the 75 to 300 bucks to get help.

Whoa its a recession my brotha!!![/quote]

Then you have to do it yourself or find someone on this board or elsewhere to design your diet for free.

What does a recession have to do with people charging a fee for a service?

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:

Well ill be 23 years old in a few weeks and have been at it since 2003. I am pound for pound one of the strongest men in my gym and I lift at the original Powerhouse Gym in Highland Park, MI. Now for the past 6 years i lift real hard and heavy, check my hub for my lifts, but my giet has been shit. When I went to the doc a while back, he said my t levels are high.

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i checked you profile, checke your pics. nice pcs, decent arms adn shuloder. but cince you make no mention of your legs, nor of your squat nor your deadlift, nor any back shit, perhaps your missin part of the puzzle.

so tell me, you hittin the legs and back hard?

[quote]clip11 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, I don’t believe your lifts. You can incline 255 for 10 but 225 for 20? That doesn’t add up at all. Second, if you “had the genes for this” you’d already be where you’re trying to get.

Dont believe them then. And once you get over a certain nuber of reps, endurance comes into play moreso than strength. However, what you believe is of little consequence to me.[/quote]

I’m glad you feel that way. The thing is, you’ve been claiming those numbers since you got here. Seems to me that if “you had the genes for this”, you’d of gotten bigger and stronger in almost two years.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:

You either educate yourself or shell out the 75 to 300 bucks to get help.

Whoa its a recession my brotha!!!

Then you have to do it yourself or find someone on this board or elsewhere to design your diet for free.

What does a recession have to do with people charging a fee for a service?

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Its the price of the service

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
clip11 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, I don’t believe your lifts. You can incline 255 for 10 but 225 for 20? That doesn’t add up at all. Second, if you “had the genes for this” you’d already be where you’re trying to get.

Dont believe them then. And once you get over a certain nuber of reps, endurance comes into play moreso than strength. However, what you believe is of little consequence to me.

I’m glad you feel that way. The thing is, you’ve been claiming those numbers since you got here. Seems to me that if “you had the genes for this”, you’d of gotten bigger and stronger in almost two years.[/quote]

I have gottenbigger and a whole lot stronger. In 2003 when i started I was 160 lbs now Im 175. I was bench pressing 165 pounds and now can bench press a pair of 150’s. But I know I cann be better if my diet was better. I just need to know how to design the diet.

[quote]Kanada wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:

Well ill be 23 years old in a few weeks and have been at it since 2003. I am pound for pound one of the strongest men in my gym and I lift at the original Powerhouse Gym in Highland Park, MI. Now for the past 6 years i lift real hard and heavy, check my hub for my lifts, but my giet has been shit. When I went to the doc a while back, he said my t levels are high.

i checked you profile, checke your pics. nice pcs, decent arms adn shuloder. but cince you make no mention of your legs, nor of your squat nor your deadlift, nor any back shit, perhaps your missin part of the puzzle.

so tell me, you hittin the legs and back hard?
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Yeah I do do deadlifts. My best dead was 545 pounds, but I usually just rep 400 or 450 pounds. I would put a pic of my back but its hard for me to get a shot of my back. My legs are my point of shame. I just want to change the subject.

Send me a check for 100 bucks and I’ll write you a diet.

Sneak in nuts as often as possible. Example for breakfast: scrambled eggs w/ melted cheese on top, whole wheat english muffin smothered in peanut butter, serving of oatmeal with 2 tbspoons of peanut butter, tall glass of milk. 2 hours later, handful of mixed nuts + protein shake. Normal lunch. Afternoon snack more nuts. Normal dinner. 2 hours later protein shake. Adding those nuts and peanut butter will make you gain weight for sure. They are loaded with calories and easy to eat even if you are not hungry.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Send me a check for 100 bucks and I’ll write you a diet. [/quote]

Ok, but dont cash it

[quote]TheSwami44 wrote:
Sneak in nuts as often as possible. Example for breakfast: scrambled eggs w/ melted cheese on top, whole wheat english muffin smothered in peanut butter, serving of oatmeal with 2 tbspoons of peanut butter, tall glass of milk. 2 hours later, handful of mixed nuts + protein shake. Normal lunch. Afternoon snack more nuts. Normal dinner. 2 hours later protein shake. Adding those nuts and peanut butter will make you gain weight for sure. They are loaded with calories and easy to eat even if you are not hungry.[/quote]

…and that’s also a great way to become allergic to something that you shouldn’t probably be overeating.

Speaking of gaining weight: the woman in the OP’s avatar, Skyy Black, used to be so much thinner than she is now. Why not write to her fan club for weight-gain tips?

Yeah brick, after I replied, I looked at the way he wrote it and figured you might have have misunderstood what he said.

lol at “don’t cash it”

Clip, I am still waiting for the day when you post a thread that is not totally retarded. Today is not that day.

[quote]HBSBound wrote:
TheSwami44 wrote:
Sneak in nuts as often as possible. Example for breakfast: scrambled eggs w/ melted cheese on top, whole wheat english muffin smothered in peanut butter, serving of oatmeal with 2 tbspoons of peanut butter, tall glass of milk. 2 hours later, handful of mixed nuts + protein shake. Normal lunch. Afternoon snack more nuts. Normal dinner. 2 hours later protein shake. Adding those nuts and peanut butter will make you gain weight for sure. They are loaded with calories and easy to eat even if you are not hungry.

…and that’s also a great way to become allergic to something that you shouldn’t probably be overeating. [/quote]

Just answering his ? about how to gain 25 lbs. I suppose any answer COULD warrant a “yeah but” response. Example: Eat more meat. “Yeah but that will raise your cholesterol.” Eat more seafood. “Yeah but that will raise your mercury levels.” Eat more nuts. “Yeah but that will cause allergies.” Purposely gaining 25 lbs. against your natural homeostasis will undoubtedly bring a “yeah but” response to just about any answer posted on this forum.

Most of this info is useless to students who have a limited budget. You don’t need any of this micro nutrient bullshit just eat carbs, protein and drink milk. Eat junk food on occasion if you want to.

Man, I look at all these posters talking about 200g protein and shit like that and I just have to resist laughing. Unless you want to cut fat most of this stuff is B.S, coming from dudes with stupid degrees that want to show off with there application of the stupid theory they learned in class or on the internet.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Most of this info is useless to students who have a limited budget. You don’t need any of this micro nutrient bullshit just eat carbs, protein and drink milk. Eat junk food on occasion if you want to.

Man, I look at all these posters talking about 200g protein and shit like that and I just have to resist laughing. Unless you want to cut fat most of this stuff is B.S, coming from dudes with stupid degrees that want to show off with there application of the stupid theory they learned in class or on the internet.[/quote]

Um, I’m in college…I’m pretty detailed with my nutrition. I could tell you what I eat everyday. I think I’m allowed to say that the application of this “stupid theory” works quite well.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Most of this info is useless to students who have a limited budget. You don’t need any of this micro nutrient bullshit just eat carbs, protein and drink milk. Eat junk food on occasion if you want to.

Man, I look at all these posters talking about 200g protein and shit like that and I just have to resist laughing. Unless you want to cut fat most of this stuff is B.S, coming from dudes with stupid degrees that want to show off with there application of the stupid theory they learned in class or on the internet.[/quote]

I guess that would make all those huge guys who embody the pinnacle of physique development–you know, guys like Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Arnold, and so on–were just dabbling with “theories” when getting huge and or in shape for a competition. I mean, when dieting for a show, they just eyeballed shit and didn’t bother with counting calories and macronutrients.

And for your information, moron, most people on here–actually nearly all–don’t have a health-related degree!

And yeah, degrees are stupid. I mean, formal academic training and education only gives peoples the knowledge, skill, and competence to be gainfully employed and successful in their respective fields.

With your wisdom, you should be putting sports nutritionists out of business! Instead of them receiving 75 to 300 bucks per hour and whatever other fees involved in their services, you can outdo them by charging pennies on the dollar or no fee to tell people to eat indiscriminately.

Maybe you can join the other geniuses that offer other awesome, thorough advice:

Eat more.
Eat a lot of …
Drink a lot of …

I hope that works great for this kid, who wants to accomplish the godly feat of packing on 25 pounds of LEAN mass while not having a clue of how to eat to do it.

And yeah, all those dietary prescriptions used by dietitians and nutritionists only work in theory. I mean, if you get a patient’s A1C level down, partially secondary to making the right food choices (and perhaps some medication and lifestyle adjustments), it’s all still working in THEORY! The improved lab value that came back was just a blunder, not due to appropriate exercise and nutrition protocols.

Same goes for carb-loading, carb-rotation, pre-contest diets, protein-sparing modified fasts, renal diets, low-gluten diets, low-sodium diets, and any other god-damn diet around!

I guess I shouldn’t fucking tell renal patients to count grams of protein, potassium, sodium, and phosphorous in their diets because, after all, such advice only works in theory. They should just continue to worsen their condition by making inappropriate food choices because nutrition therapy does shit, nothing, zilch.

And the education and training that gave me the competence to deal with these patients was all stupid education and training.

Moron!

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

I guess that would make all those huge guys who embody the pinnacle of physique development–you know, guys like Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Arnold, and so on–were just dabbling with “theories” when getting huge and or in shape for a competition. I mean, when dieting for a show, they just eyeballed shit and didn’t bother with counting calories and macronutrients.

And for your information, moron, most people on here–actually nearly all–don’t have a health-related degree!

And yeah, degrees are stupid. I mean, formal academic training and education only gives peoples the knowledge, skill, and competence to be gainfully employed and successful in their respective fields.

With your wisdom, you should be putting sports nutritionists out of business! Instead of them receiving 75 to 300 bucks per hour and whatever other fees involved in their services, you can outdo them by charging pennies on the dollar or no fee to tell people to eat indiscriminately.

Maybe you can join the other geniuses that offer other awesome, thorough advice:

Eat more.
Eat a lot of …
Drink a lot of …

I hope that works great for this kid, who wants to accomplish the godly feat of packing on 25 pounds of LEAN mass while not having a clue of how to eat to do it.

And yeah, all those dietary prescriptions used by dietitians and nutritionists only work in theory. I mean, if you get a patient’s A1C level down, partially secondary to making the right food choices (and perhaps some medication and lifestyle adjustments), it’s all still working in THEORY! The improved lab value that came back was just a blunder, not due to appropriate exercise and nutrition protocols.

Same goes for carb-loading, carb-rotation, pre-contest diets, protein-sparing modified fasts, renal diets, low-gluten diets, low-sodium diets, and any other god-damn diet around!

I guess I shouldn’t fucking tell renal patients to count grams of protein, potassium, sodium, and phosphorous in their diets because, after all, such advice only works in theory. They should just continue to worsen their condition by making inappropriate food choices because nutrition therapy does shit, nothing, zilch.

And the education and training that gave me the competence to deal with these patients was all stupid education and training.

Moron!

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Man. I don’t know who the fuck you are but you can suck my dick.

I’m glad I posted my remarks because it seems it served as an alley for you to express some deep philosophical ideas you had lingering in your head. So basically you just needed the right trigger to go on the defensive about what you do. But hey listen I don’t have a problem with what you do, in fact I think its great; in context. The scenario here is that you’ve got a 23 yo wanted to put on muscle.

Now I have no clue why you keep reiterating and complaining about the ‘25lb of muscle’ statement. Its not like this dude is a prize fighter needing to get to a specific weight to fight in a specific weight class. The 25 lb is a generalization of the amount of size he wants to attain. He just wants to put on mass (I guess lean mass) and put it on quickly (the ‘1 year’). I don’t think he needs a specific meal plan for that with all the macros. He ain’t entering any contest.

Again, dickhead, I have no problem with nutritionists. In fact I’ll probably be PMing people like you on this site for advice when I want to cut or etc etc.

Also a lot of dietitians are hot healthy women. I’m all for education.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Again, dickhead, I have no problem with nutritionists. In fact I’ll probably be PMing people like you on this site for advice when I want to cut or etc etc.
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Thought that one through.