Nas' New Album

Professor_X · July 8, 2008, 2:37pm

[quote]jtg987 wrote:

i don’t have a problem with ring tone rap as i dont want too learn quantum physics when I’m trying to ‘mack bitches’ however i understand other rappers frustration that music they slave over including intelligent content and substance gets overlooked by the general population. Now the people complaining about this situation how many cd’s did you go out and buy last year?

The problem is the same people that are bitching hip hop is dead, that they don’t hear good quality music(not just limited to the rap/hip hop genre) on these radio stations and music video shows i.e trl are the ones who aren’t buying the cd’s.
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Bingo. I am sure nearly everyone here just downloads their stuff for free because I did the same all of the way through school…however, that action has it good and bad effects. The good is that downloading music online has changed the recording industry and forced them to not only face the fact that prices for cd’s were way too high (getting to as much as 20 bucks a pop), but the fact that it is now possible for an artist who is an unknown to become known by simply releasing his own product and getting it heard.

The negative is that cd sales no longer drive what music the record companies search for and produce. There is money in “ringtones” and the ability to only buy singles on line instead of the whole cd will no doubt lead to one hit wonders actually sticking around a little longer than they could have before.

I am not sure what the solution is or if there really needs to be one. The music industry needed to change. They were ripping us off every time they released a $40 2-disc cd package with only 2 songs worth listening to. They were also ripping the artists off by only allowing LESS THAN 8% of CD sales to actually go to the artist themselves…which then had to cover their own production, videos, pr, advertisements and image…which is why groups like TLC were basically flat broke even though they were considered the most successful female R&B group at one time.

Unfortunately, it also means artists who may have had a chance are now being phased out because no one who actually loves Hip Hop from its roots is actually BUYING the damn music.

Eielson · July 8, 2008, 3:51pm

Woo! I bought

Food & Liquor
The Cool
Hip Hop is Dead
Planning on buying Untitled and DMX’s CD if he would ever come out with it.

and then a few songs from a few CDs.

I don’t think we have a problem in people only buying a few songs from CDs. Our problem is people not buying the songs.

SSC · July 8, 2008, 4:59pm

[quote]Eielson wrote:
Woo! I bought

Food & Liquor
The Cool
Hip Hop is Dead
Planning on buying Untitled and DMX’s CD if he would ever come out with it.

and then a few songs from a few CDs.

I don’t think we have a problem in people only buying a few songs from CDs. Our problem is people not buying the songs.[/quote]

Those aren’t bad cds, but there’s so much better out there.

Try anything from:

9th Wonder
Kaze
Skyzoo
Gang Starr
Kenn Starr
One Be Lo
Blackstar
Binary Star
Chaundon
Little Brother
Zion I & the Grouch

Just for a few examples. This is the kind of HIP-HOP (most of the shit discussed in this thread isn’t hip-hop,) that I try to persuade people to get turned on to. It’s a bit more obscure, but not impossible to find by any means.

SSC · July 8, 2008, 5:00pm

[quote]jtg987 wrote:
malonetd wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Mal ive never heard of any of those songs except DWTD and it sucked.
Then you really don’t know shit, do you? You can’t claim something is “dead” when you don’t even know what it is or even name a classic example.

I knew you were narrow-minded with your listening choices, but I didn’t realize you limited yourself this much.

And there’s nothing wrong with only listening to a limited selection of music, but then you really have no business running your mouth in as many music threads as you do. Go listen to Weezy, kid, and stay out of conversations you are clueless about.

you guys wanna listen to backpack storytelling rap go ahead. i told yall a million times its dead so dont be so sour that no one is making it anymore and everyone that does sucks at it.

backpack nerds

I love how in several threads you throw about the backpack label. You probably couldn’t even define “backpack”. Hell, Lupe is damn near backpack, but you would never admit that.

judging by 781 posts especially in music threads, he seemingly accepts what trl throws at him as the best thing going around i.e in another thread calling weezy the greatest rapper ever, no.

i agreed with his points saying that soulja boy has as much reason to be in rap as nas, however back pack rap ain’t dead and i pretty much disagree with everything else he has had to say.

story telling isn’t dead, the only problem with hip hop is the over saturation of the radio’s and music video shows with ring tone rappers.

i don’t have a problem with ring tone rap as i dont want too learn quantum physics when I’m trying to ‘mack bitches’ however i understand other rappers frustration that music they slave over including intelligent content and substance gets overlooked by the general population. Now the people complaining about this situation how many cd’s did you go out and buy last year?

The problem is the same people that are bitching hip hop is dead, that they don’t hear good quality music(not just limited to the rap/hip hop genre) on these radio stations and music video shows i.e trl are the ones who aren’t buying the cd’s.

I’m not preaching a holier than thou attitude but you cant sit there and complain that your favorite musicians/artist album gets pushed back, they aren’t promoting it enough, not getting on the radio if YOU DON’T BUY THE CD AS WELL, when you purchase an album it’s showing the record company that you are interested in that artist, that you want to hear and see more from that artist and similar artists.

Now the reason why soulja boy was able to stay #1 for so long was because teenage girls were buying the songs off itunes/cd’s from the stores.

You know why teenage girls are the biggest buyers of to be frankly honest subpar music because record companies know if they market it to that population they are the most likely to go purchase the album and affiliated merchandise meaning they are getting a bigger return. Music is pretty much all about the profit margin.

I know big paragraph to people i know that aren’t going to bother reading it, I’m sure you are not smart enough to comprehend the general concepts i put forth in this post anyway

I’m done with this thread, why does every hip hop thread either end up turning into a soulja boy vs hip hop thread, or everyone against livefrom781, 781 maybe you should spend some time listening to the classics then come back too hip hop threads.

The hip hop classic they named I’m pretty sure even kids who rode the small bus in high school know the words they get played that much. I’m not a weezy hater I own his whole catalogue because he does make enjoyable music to listen too however claiming he is the greatest rapper alive when he’s obviously stole jay-z style.

and taken the dip set swag and come out a mediocre hybrid you really need to rethink your preferences and make sure you arent a 13 year old girl from the OC and wondering if your going to be the first person at your school with that new shawty lo song, so you know can seem super cool and maybe get asked too the formal by ben affleck and you know have a happy life and yeah

for a point of reference yes i know jay-z stole multiple people’s styles and bit multiple lines, so dont bothering bringing this up, i’m out of this thread till people actually discuss Nas’ latest cd

and yes ether makes the soul burn slooooooooooow[/quote]

And for the record, this is one of the better posts in this thread, and Prof’s response was a good one, too.

malonetd · July 8, 2008, 5:11pm

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
dude i know a ton about hiphop.
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No you don’t.

malonetd · July 8, 2008, 5:14pm

[quote]jtg987 wrote:
judging by 781 posts especially in music threads, he seemingly accepts what trl throws at him as the best thing going around i.e in another thread calling weezy the greatest rapper ever, no.