NAACP Plays Race Card on Tea Party

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[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

What made him qualified. His small stint as a senator in which most of his votes were present. Or was it the fact he can read a teleprompter better than anyone. Enjoy your socialism. As for Palin what was wrong with her. Obama was threatened so she was attacked from every angle, and Mccain being passive would not let her talk. I believe if he would have shut up and let her talk mccain would be sound asleep at 1600 penn ave.
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Senator, Constitutional law professor, lawyer, Colubmia, Harvard, Law Review, Charisma, centrist

Telepromptor thing is a red herring. They all use teleprompters. Obama no more no less.
Democrats beleive in a social safety net. Its not socialism.

Palin stank it up. You may like her, undecideds sure didn’t.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

I bet you are a nice guy, would never burn any crosses but…
I bet you think twice when you walk past a man in a dark alley. I bet you think three times when its a black guy. I sure do. I’m a racist, you’re a racist.

[/quote]

That isn’t racism, racism is thinking a specific race is superior. Good try tho.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

“I guess he was scared of the Unbeleivably impressive campaign Barry ran.”

Did you jerk it to the 1/2 hour commercial that he aired?
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No.

Nobel prize was tarded.
14th best president tarded.
Its too early.

Just cause I voted for him doesnt mean im elated by everything he does. Lets face it hes facing a shitstorm. I voted my conscience and now I have to see how it plays out. So far mildly dissapointed but I havent seen a better candidate. When I do I’ll vote for him.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

What made him qualified. His small stint as a senator in which most of his votes were present. Or was it the fact he can read a teleprompter better than anyone. Enjoy your socialism. As for Palin what was wrong with her. Obama was threatened so she was attacked from every angle, and Mccain being passive would not let her talk. I believe if he would have shut up and let her talk mccain would be sound asleep at 1600 penn ave.
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Senator, Constitutional law professor, lawyer, Colubmia, Harvard, Law Review, Charisma, centrist

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Those are all nice titles, but what has he actually done? You have no clue what he did…hardly anything but “present” in senate, can’t access most of his past, school records, reviews. So you went solely off Charisma I guess. Good job being a responsible voter P Diddy Jr. Vote or die, next time chose option 2 please and stop fucking up our country.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

“I guess he was scared of the Unbeleivably impressive campaign Barry ran.”

Did you jerk it to the 1/2 hour commercial that he aired?
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No.

Nobel prize was tarded.
14th best president tarded.
Its too early.

Just cause I voted for him doesnt mean im elated by everything he does. Lets face it hes facing a shitstorm. I voted my conscience and now I have to see how it plays out. So far mildly dissapointed but I havent seen a better candidate. When I do I’ll vote for him.[/quote]

You’re Honestly going to tell me that ITS TOO EARLY??? In the crazy 1.5 yrs hes been president he hasn’t made enough decisions for you to decide whether or not you dig his work? This is probably worse than saying “he the best president ever”. If you aren’t gonna evaluate him yet, when will you evaluate him? Maybe you’re a little more disappointed than you think and you’re just hoping that he does something amazing tomorrow…or the next day…or the day after that

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I really hate when people use the word “socialism” to describe things that have nothing to do with socialism.

Socialism = a system where the means of production (factories, for the most part) are owned by the people who do the production (laborers, or classically the Proletariat).

Regulation of the financial system isn’t socialism. Health insurance reform isn’t socialism. Unemployment insurance, welfare, and any other social programs are not socialism. They are well within the scope of classic liberal democracy. Don’t believe me? Read Thomas Paine’s Rights of Man. Progressive taxation, social safety nets… its all there.

PERHAPS one could say that the government-backed settlement between GM and the UAW is socialist. I could buy that.

Socialism is just a scary word that some people use to scare and manipulate other people into doing things.

Also, we should be clear that the Tea Party movement is solely a reaction to the Democratic power in Washington, and throughout the country. When the pendulum swings the other way again (and it will), the Tea Partyers will magically disappear. As long as the government gets more power in a Republican way, these people will shut up.

Also, I don’t want to hear another damn thing about 9-11. I live in NY. People I know died on that day. If you live in friggin Nebraska, 9-11 changed nothing for you. Your life went on as planned, except that you got riled up for a war.

Edit to last statement: Unless you are one of the rare people who actually honor your country by picking up a weapon and serving. As my over-educated, northeast, liberal, Jewish ass has
(hooah!).

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Also, I don’t get what some of this debate is:

The NAACP wants the “leaders” of the movement to say that overt racism is bad.

Rather than saying “of course we don’t want racists in our movement. That’s ridiculous.”, the reaction has been “Look at them playing the race card again”.

It’s fairly obvious that Mrs. Palin (among others) does not want to alienate racists, and by her words (or lack thereof), makes it look like the Tea Party is composed of racists. I would imagine that the vast majority of the people who identify with the Tea Party are not.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Our civil liberties have been slowly chipped away at for the last 50 or so years and government has grown exponentially. Where was the tea party then? What is different now?[/quote]

Are you serious? That’s like asking where was Rosa Parks the first 100 times she was forced to sit at the back of the bus.

There comes a point where enough is enough.[/quote]

It just has to be at a point when a country that had historically oppressed colored people had just elected one as a leader and had to be in the form of a movement that has a lot of racist people in it.[/quote]

Do you honestly believe the tea party was formed because we have a black president?[/quote]

It’s not the sole reason, but to suggest that it isn’t a part of it is just plain stupid.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Our civil liberties have been slowly chipped away at for the last 50 or so years and government has grown exponentially. Where was the tea party then? What is different now?[/quote]

Are you serious? That’s like asking where was Rosa Parks the first 100 times she was forced to sit at the back of the bus.

There comes a point where enough is enough.[/quote]

It just has to be at a point when a country that had historically oppressed colored people had just elected one as a leader and had to be in the form of a movement that has a lot of racist people in it.[/quote]

Do you honestly believe the tea party was formed because we have a black president?[/quote]

Yes. Partially. People are projecting some pretty crazy fears. I think that comes partially from racial discomfort.

You know whats a really fucking stupid argument…“Its not ignorant because they did the same thing to bush.”

No both were ignorant. Only one was related to race though.[/quote]

Ignorant? What do you mean ignorant? Are you sure you know what ignorant means?

[quote]People are so touchy about being racist. People react to it like they’re being called child molestors. Guess what? Im racist, you’re racist we’re all racist. Own up to it.

Until then Obama had no choice but to institute bail outs and stimulus spending. Political suicide not to.

Health care has been a democratic platform plank since Lyndon Johnson. Fuck off.

All this wire tap shit i’m not thrilled about but its bush stuff. Where was the tea party then? I think thats a valid question.

Until someone can answer that question for me I think the tea party is 5% libertarians/‘true conservatives’ 90% Pissed off republicans who supported bush and 5% lunatics.

100% of those people are racist because 100% of people are racist.[/quote]

Most of this had nothing to do with my question about racism. But I’ll say that if you believe 100% of people are racist than it serves absolutely NO PURPOSE to even mention that the tea party is racist. It would make just as much sense if I went around everywhere shouting how racist Al Franken is.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Our civil liberties have been slowly chipped away at for the last 50 or so years and government has grown exponentially. Where was the tea party then? What is different now?[/quote]

Are you serious? That’s like asking where was Rosa Parks the first 100 times she was forced to sit at the back of the bus.

There comes a point where enough is enough.[/quote]

It just has to be at a point when a country that had historically oppressed colored people had just elected one as a leader and had to be in the form of a movement that has a lot of racist people in it.[/quote]

Do you honestly believe the tea party was formed because we have a black president?[/quote]

It’s not the sole reason, but to suggest that it isn’t a part of it is just plain stupid.[/quote]

Well I think it’s pretty stupid to suggest it’s about race. Ultimately, the race card is pretty tired and worn out.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
<<< It’s not the sole reason, but to suggest that it isn’t a part of it is just plain stupid.[/quote]
I really hope the leftist power structure in this country continues to hang on to the same delusion here expressed by this New Zealander. It has next to no credibility in the populous at large because most regular folks just know better any more and the continuous harping on an illusory issue will nicely serve to further discredit and alienate those who persist therein.

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“Yes, we’re white. Oh, but we’re not racist whites. We’re a different kind of white. Please, you have to believe us!”

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What do you call a gathering of more than one white person in the same place?

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
What do you call a gathering of more than one white person in the same place?[/quote]
KKK meeting?

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[quote]bluefingas wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
What do you call a gathering of more than one white person in the same place?[/quote]
KKK meeting?[/quote]

Yeah, Klan rally.

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If you are at this thread(thats you), read this SHORT little article

from Tim Scott:

http://biggovernment.com/tscott/2010/07/15/naacp-is-making-a-grave-mistake/

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
If you are at this thread(thats you), read this SHORT little article

from Tim Scott:

http://biggovernment.com/tscott/2010/07/15/naacp-is-making-a-grave-mistake/[/quote]

Great article, I love that web site. Tim Scott will probaly be called an uncle Tom for writting that though. That is why I think more blacks have not gotten involved with Tea party, they dont want to be called a sell out.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

  1. I see your point about 9/11.

  2. No, there are varying levels of racism that can be overcome in individual cases by establishing relationships.

I bet you are a nice guy, would never burn any crosses but…
I bet you think twice when you walk past a man in a dark alley. I bet you think three times when its a black guy. I sure do. I’m a racist, you’re a racist.

I can point you to many psychological studies that indicate at least low levels of racial ‘preference’ in just about everyone tested.

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One of particular interest showed increased levels of suspicion/lack of empathy/understanding of people with different facial features to the persons own race ESPECIALLY when those participants live in relatively homogenous communities. I find this interesting because the tea partiers I meet are a handful of urbanites, and a great deal more of people in the segregated, isolated suburbs and exurbs.

but at the same time racism does not mean hate but I think it can strongly influence politics.

And finally i think the NAACP comment is pointless and counterproductive. Sometimes you cant control who shows up to your party with that lunatic fringe. NAACP are a bunch of racists that get suspicous/nervous when mobs of angry white people form. Racism cuts both ways.[/quote]

So you say there are varying levels thet are overcome by relationships, are you saying we are born racist. My son is only five, his best friend is a mexican, but he did not even know it bc race is not an issue in my house, he just thought he had a tan. I am a nice guy and I dont walk down dark allies much, but when I had like after a braves game or something like that. The first thing I want to see is some one walking that can help me get to my car, and most of the time they are black. We are all the same, some just have more pigment than others. Have you ever seen a black person with that pigment disease they look white. Some whites, like myself, with dark tans and hair look mexican. I have even had them talk spanish to me. So like I said it is all pigment. Racist does mean hate. Listen to people who are openly racist they hate the other race.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

What made him qualified. His small stint as a senator in which most of his votes were present. Or was it the fact he can read a teleprompter better than anyone. Enjoy your socialism. As for Palin what was wrong with her. Obama was threatened so she was attacked from every angle, and Mccain being passive would not let her talk. I believe if he would have shut up and let her talk mccain would be sound asleep at 1600 penn ave.
[/quote]

Senator, Constitutional law professor, lawyer, Colubmia, Harvard, Law Review, Charisma, centrist

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Telepromptor thing is a red herring. They all use teleprompters. Obama no more no less.
Democrats beleive in a social safety net. Its not socialism.

Palin stank it up. You may like her, undecideds sure didn’t.[/quote]

So being a constitutional law prof makes him qualified. Listen to what he says about the constitution. Hitler also had charisma, and now lawyers are qualified. They are the sleesiest people you will ever meet.
Obama uses the tele more, he cant talk with out it. Social safety net please it is socialism or collectivism what ever you call it. No one should have to pay for some one elses mistakes. The gov just wants people to be dependent on them.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Our civil liberties have been slowly chipped away at for the last 50 or so years and government has grown exponentially. Where was the tea party then? What is different now?[/quote]

Are you serious? That’s like asking where was Rosa Parks the first 100 times she was forced to sit at the back of the bus.

There comes a point where enough is enough.[/quote]

It just has to be at a point when a country that had historically oppressed colored people had just elected one as a leader and had to be in the form of a movement that has a lot of racist people in it.[/quote]

So because what people in the past do, dictates what we can do now? So because some people have slaves in the past, now other people in the future can’t disagree with someone politically because he’s part black, but not from a family that were even slaves (since we are going off of bloodlines I guess, or are all light skinned people responsible for all other light skinned people’s actions).