NAACP Plays Race Card on Tea Party

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[quote]Spartiates wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I believe all the pent up frustration was there. The election of a socialist was just the final straw.
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See, I think it’s not about him being “socialist”. Because the grip isn’t about the size and scope of government. It’s not that he “broke the camel’s back” by making the Federal government bigger, or the executive more powerful.

It’s that he has a different social agenda than Bush did.

It was okay(or not as bad) with Bush, not because of the debt, or the over-reaching fed, or the elected emperor-like executive, but because Bush used those tools to further a socially-conservative social agenda, where as Obama is using those exact same tools to further a liberal social agenda.

And that’s what this is really about.[/quote]

Speak for yourself, I never wanted either.

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With regards to the racism charge, forget the usual defense. The only defense needed is a great big “so what?” Racists attend TP gatherings? Big-dang-deal. Bet they go to the movies, too. Bet they love their moms. “Hit pause on the world, found us a racist in the crowd!”

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
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The white house with a watermelon patch is your proof that the tea party is racist? get the fuck outta here…How is a internet pic related to them at all…you are stretching big time with this one, or did a tea partier sneak into Michelle Obama’s veggie garden wreck havok. I guess all cats really say LOLZ too in real life. [/quote]

Jesus fucking Christ. You bit hook, line and sinker on those. I just typed in Tea Party racism on Google and posted the first few pics that I thought were funny. I figured they’d be a good way to rile some shit up.[/quote]

Dude, there is no doubt in my mind that you were trying to make a point with all of those pictures you posted. Don’t flake now that you’ve been called on it.
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If I was trying to make a point or I truly believed that a few pics were evidence of racism in the TP, don’t you think I would have responded to all the people here who have directly addressed these pics? If I was trying to use those pics to back up something, don’t you think I would have continued to back that point up throughout this thread? A mind reader you ain’t.

You can say all you want about me, but one thing that definitely holds true about me on all of these threads on this forum is that if I make a point I will always back it up and defend it. And on the few occasions where someone has made a good enough point or argument against a stance of mine, I’ve admitted as much. Normally it seems like it’s me against a whole slew of people here but I still try to make my point.

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[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
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The white house with a watermelon patch is your proof that the tea party is racist? get the fuck outta here…How is a internet pic related to them at all…you are stretching big time with this one, or did a tea partier sneak into Michelle Obama’s veggie garden wreck havok. I guess all cats really say LOLZ too in real life. [/quote]

Jesus fucking Christ. You bit hook, line and sinker on those. I just typed in Tea Party racism on Google and posted the first few pics that I thought were funny. I figured they’d be a good way to rile some shit up.[/quote]

Wrong, what you don’t get in all of this is…you typed in “Tea Party racism” and that shit comes up. Now I am not saying that is your fault, but how do you make sense of the fact that those pics come up under that seach? People are fucking stretching here, you gotta admit that. [/quote]

Well, just for the hell of it, I typed in “liberal racism” just now and most of the same pictures came up. But this is besides my point. My point is that there is racism within the TP, that I have seen firsthand. Yes, it exists in virtually any political group but for whatever reason the TP gains much more notoriety. The media is much to blame, but so are the racists themselves.

All I want to see is the TP leadership, whoever that may be, stand up and denounce these people. I understand that there is a double standard, and that’s a shame and it’s undeserving. But when you have people like DoubleDuce refusing to accept that there is racism in the TP, like EVERY other group, and demanding proof of this, it’s so bizarre it boggles the mind.

I don’t expect Democrats or the NAACP to stand up and denounce whatever racism exists in their party/group and I don’t care if they do or not. I don’t identify with those people but I do identify to a certain extent with the TP.

If I have a pile of shit in my yard and my neighbor has a pile of shit in his yard, I’m going to clean my yard rather than yell at my neighbor and demand that he clean his up or bitch and whine about how no one is saying anything about the shit in his yard. The bottom line is that there is shit in my yard that I need to clean up. My neighbor’s shit doesn’t affect me and if anything his shit makes my yard look much nicer if I clean mine up. I have nothing to say to those who want to dismiss my rationale by saying that there is no proof of racims within the TP.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
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The white house with a watermelon patch is your proof that the tea party is racist? get the fuck outta here…How is a internet pic related to them at all…you are stretching big time with this one, or did a tea partier sneak into Michelle Obama’s veggie garden wreck havok. I guess all cats really say LOLZ too in real life. [/quote]

Jesus fucking Christ. You bit hook, line and sinker on those. I just typed in Tea Party racism on Google and posted the first few pics that I thought were funny. I figured they’d be a good way to rile some shit up.[/quote]

Wrong, what you don’t get in all of this is…you typed in “Tea Party racism” and that shit comes up. Now I am not saying that is your fault, but how do you make sense of the fact that those pics come up under that seach? People are fucking stretching here, you gotta admit that. [/quote]

Well, just for the hell of it, I typed in “liberal racism” just now and most of the same pictures came up. But this is besides my point. My point is that there is racism within the TP, that I have seen firsthand. Yes, it exists in virtually any political group but for whatever reason the TP gains much more notoriety. The media is much to blame, but so are the racists themselves.

All I want to see is the TP leadership, whoever that may be, stand up and denounce these people. I understand that there is a double standard, and that’s a shame and it’s undeserving. But when you have people like DoubleDuce refusing to accept that there is racism in the TP, like EVERY other group, and demanding proof of this, it’s so bizarre it boggles the mind.

I don’t expect Democrats or the NAACP to stand up and denounce whatever racism exists in their party/group and I don’t care if they do or not. I don’t identify with those people but I do identify to a certain extent with the TP.

If I have a pile of shit in my yard and my neighbor has a pile of shit in his yard, I’m going to clean my yard rather than yell at my neighbor and demand that he clean his up or bitch and whine about how no one is saying anything about the shit in his yard. The bottom line is that there is shit in my yard that I need to clean up. My neighbor’s shit doesn’t affect me and if anything his shit makes my yard look much nicer if I clean mine up. I have nothing to say to those who want to dismiss my rationale by saying that there is no proof of racims within the TP.[/quote]

Fair enough, It just seems to me that other “groups” sole purpose is to blast everything they don’t like as racist. NAACP has made a living out of it, and I say fuck them. I agree with most of the tea party, and I think crying racist is a ploy because the TP is actually gaining steam. Race is such a touchy subject and they use it as a platform for their agenda. If you shout “racist” enough, some people may start to believe it.

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Just to add to what DB has said…

If the Tea Party continues to blame the “liberal media” and “well…“they” did it to (fill in the blanks)” on what is a growing vocal minority in their ranks…then their message of limited government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out.

For whatever reason, the party IS attracting racial and religious extremist, as they feel that the GOP is becoming more “liberal”.

Even if one concedes that the Tea Party is denouncing such views…they are starting to back more and more candidates with more extreme views.

That is their choice.

But as I said, the original message of limited Government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out by that of racial and religious extremism.

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add to what DB has said…

If the Tea Party continues to blame the “liberal media” and “well…“they” did it to (fill in the blanks)” on what is a growing vocal minority in their ranks…then their message of limited government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out.

For whatever reason, the party IS attracting racial and religious extremist, as they feel that the GOP is becoming more “liberal”.

Even if one concedes that the Tea Party is denouncing such views…they are starting to back more and more candidates with more extreme views.

That is their choice.

But as I said, the original message of limited Government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out by that of racial and religious extremism.

Mufasa[/quote]

It’s no big deal.

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I’m waiting for the NAACP to address it’s own inherent racism within it’s own ranks, and denounce the new black panther party perhaps for the blatant racism that it supports. Hmmmmm…

http://biggovernment.com/jdunetz/2010/07/13/the-racism-of-the-naacp/

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And of course the tea party has never denounced racists who’ve tried to attach themselves to the party… /sarcasm

Here’s some more evidence of racist tea partiers…

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
.[/quote]

The white house with a watermelon patch is your proof that the tea party is racist? get the fuck outta here…How is a internet pic related to them at all…you are stretching big time with this one, or did a tea partier sneak into Michelle Obama’s veggie garden wreck havok. I guess all cats really say LOLZ too in real life. [/quote]

Jesus fucking Christ. You bit hook, line and sinker on those. I just typed in Tea Party racism on Google and posted the first few pics that I thought were funny. I figured they’d be a good way to rile some shit up.[/quote]

Wrong, what you don’t get in all of this is…you typed in “Tea Party racism” and that shit comes up. Now I am not saying that is your fault, but how do you make sense of the fact that those pics come up under that seach? People are fucking stretching here, you gotta admit that. [/quote]

Well, just for the hell of it, I typed in “liberal racism” just now and most of the same pictures came up. But this is besides my point. My point is that there is racism within the TP, that I have seen firsthand. Yes, it exists in virtually any political group but for whatever reason the TP gains much more notoriety. The media is much to blame, but so are the racists themselves.

All I want to see is the TP leadership, whoever that may be, stand up and denounce these people. I understand that there is a double standard, and that’s a shame and it’s undeserving. But when you have people like DoubleDuce refusing to accept that there is racism in the TP, like EVERY other group, and demanding proof of this, it’s so bizarre it boggles the mind.

I don’t expect Democrats or the NAACP to stand up and denounce whatever racism exists in their party/group and I don’t care if they do or not. I don’t identify with those people but I do identify to a certain extent with the TP.

If I have a pile of shit in my yard and my neighbor has a pile of shit in his yard, I’m going to clean my yard rather than yell at my neighbor and demand that he clean his up or bitch and whine about how no one is saying anything about the shit in his yard. The bottom line is that there is shit in my yard that I need to clean up. My neighbor’s shit doesn’t affect me and if anything his shit makes my yard look much nicer if I clean mine up. I have nothing to say to those who want to dismiss my rationale by saying that there is no proof of racims within the TP.[/quote]

I wish the NAACP and the new black panther party would at least ACKNOWLEDGE the piles of shit in their yards.

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Bigflamer:

The NAACP has little, (if any) political relevance and/or influence…and they have even LESS when they practice a double-standard.

Are you suggesting that the Tea Party “follow their lead”?

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add to what DB has said…

If the Tea Party continues to blame the “liberal media” and “well…“they” did it to (fill in the blanks)” on what is a growing vocal minority in their ranks…then their message of limited government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out.

For whatever reason, the party IS attracting racial and religious extremist, as they feel that the GOP is becoming more “liberal”.

Even if one concedes that the Tea Party is denouncing such views…they are starting to back more and more candidates with more extreme views.

That is their choice.

But as I said, the original message of limited Government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out by that of racial and religious extremism.

Mufasa[/quote]

Let’s be honest here. You don’t really care about limited government or constitutional principles and neither do the other people on here who are saying that they do, but denounce the tea party for other things. If you REALLY cared about those things, all of this other stuff that keeps getting mentioned like racism and religious extremism wouldn’t even matter much. Especially on the small-scale on which they are occurring. Their message is only being drowned out because people like you keep talking about these unimportant things.

That being said, I think the Tea Party is doomed to failure as well, but for reasons that are different from yours.

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  1. I do believe in limited Government and Constitutional Principals.

  2. I have never denounced the Tea Party either personally or on the Board. My points are more a “warning” for a Party that could…and I emphasize could lead to some level of change if they are not “hi-jacked”.

Why do you think they will not survive?

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add to what DB has said…

If the Tea Party continues to blame the “liberal media” and “well…“they” did it to (fill in the blanks)” on what is a growing vocal minority in their ranks…then their message of limited government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out.

For whatever reason, the party IS attracting racial and religious extremist, as they feel that the GOP is becoming more “liberal”.

Even if one concedes that the Tea Party is denouncing such views…they are starting to back more and more candidates with more extreme views.

That is their choice.

But as I said, the original message of limited Government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out by that of racial and religious extremism.

Mufasa[/quote]

How has the t-party blaimed the liberal media, and what haven’t they done to get rid of racists?

Why can no one answer these questions?

“Oh, they haven’t done enough”

“They’ve done this, this , and this. What else are you suggesting they do?”

–silence–

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add to what DB has said…

If the Tea Party continues to blame the “liberal media” and “well…“they” did it to (fill in the blanks)” on what is a growing vocal minority in their ranks…then their message of limited government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out.

For whatever reason, the party IS attracting racial and religious extremist, as they feel that the GOP is becoming more “liberal”.

Even if one concedes that the Tea Party is denouncing such views…they are starting to back more and more candidates with more extreme views.

That is their choice.

But as I said, the original message of limited Government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out by that of racial and religious extremism.

Mufasa[/quote]

How has the t-party blaimed the liberal media, and what haven’t they done to get rid of racists?

Why can no one answer these questions?

“Oh, they haven’t done enough”

“They’ve done this, this , and this. What else are you suggesting they do?”

–silence–[/quote]

How has the Tea Party blamed the liberal media? Really? Is not the Tea Party its members and supporters? Do you mean to tell me that you’ve never seen any TP member/supporter blame the media for the racist albatross it carries around its neck? If I scoured your old posts enough I could probably find a dozen instances where you specifically blame the media for this problem. Shit, I’m a supporter of the TP to a certain extent and I’ll go on record right now as saying that a lot of this racism shit is media-fueled.

I guess you don’t think Glenn Beck is associated with the TP, but I certainly associate him with it since I just saw him voicing, in a very vocal manner, his support for it yesterday on his show. He spent most of the show pointing fingers at liberal racism that occurred 30-40 years ago (Jim Jones, Bill Ayers, Black Panthers, etc).

What else do I suggest people like him do? I suggest they accept responsibility for their own party/actions/supporters rather than continue to point the finger at everyone else. Is that so much to ask? All this talk about the NAACP or the liberal media means NOTHING. This whole thread reminds me of a bumper sticker I used to have: No one can make you feel disgusting without your cooperation, so get right with yourself first!

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

  1. I do believe in limited Government and Constitutional Principals.

  2. I have never denounced the Tea Party either personally or on the Board. My points are more a “warning” for a Party that could…and I emphasize could lead to some level of change if they are not “hi-jacked”.

Why do you think they will not survive?

Mufasa
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Essentially because all of the government programs are too entrenched at this point. Even if somehow the Tea Partiers were to elect a president and get a majority in congress (yeah right), they couldn’t even privatize the post office, let alone end the fed or any of the other seriously entrenched programs. The one thing they may be able to do is draw back the military, but I’m not convinced that most Tea Partiers want that anyways.

The moment they started cutting back on government programs, people would start complaining about it. Reducing welfare? The poor people hate you. Ending the Fed? You lose the support of the bankers and the super rich. Privatizing Social Security? You must hate the elderly. No politician could ever get away with anything like this. Sorry to say it to the limited government types, but we are on a road from which I don’t believe we can ever come back from, of course until the inevitable collapse happens.

I have a feeling that most of them aren’t as small government as they say anyways, at least not when “their” guy is in office. Hell, they probably won’t even get elected anyways if they ran. Either way, I don’t think they will survive.

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Thanks. And great points, Dabba.

It brings back memories of that “classic” protestor with the sign that said something like:

" I want the government to stay OUT of my Medicare, and to leave my Social Security ALONE!!!"

Mufasa

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add to what DB has said…

If the Tea Party continues to blame the “liberal media” and “well…“they” did it to (fill in the blanks)” on what is a growing vocal minority in their ranks…then their message of limited government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out.

For whatever reason, the party IS attracting racial and religious extremist, as they feel that the GOP is becoming more “liberal”.

Even if one concedes that the Tea Party is denouncing such views…they are starting to back more and more candidates with more extreme views.

That is their choice.

But as I said, the original message of limited Government and adherence to constitutional principals will be drowned out by that of racial and religious extremism.

Mufasa[/quote]

How has the t-party blaimed the liberal media, and what haven’t they done to get rid of racists?

Why can no one answer these questions?

“Oh, they haven’t done enough”

“They’ve done this, this , and this. What else are you suggesting they do?”

–silence–[/quote]

How has the Tea Party blamed the liberal media? Really? Is not the Tea Party its members and supporters? Do you mean to tell me that you’ve never seen any TP member/supporter blame the media for the racist albatross it carries around its neck? If I scoured your old posts enough I could probably find a dozen instances where you specifically blame the media for this problem. Shit, I’m a supporter of the TP to a certain extent and I’ll go on record right now as saying that a lot of this racism shit is media-fueled.

I guess you don’t think Glenn Beck is associated with the TP, but I certainly associate him with it since I just saw him voicing, in a very vocal manner, his support for it yesterday on his show. He spent most of the show pointing fingers at liberal racism that occurred 30-40 years ago (Jim Jones, Bill Ayers, Black Panthers, etc).

What else do I suggest people like him do? I suggest they accept responsibility for their own party/actions/supporters rather than continue to point the finger at everyone else. Is that so much to ask? All this talk about the NAACP or the liberal media means NOTHING. This whole thread reminds me of a bumper sticker I used to have: No one can make you feel disgusting without your cooperation, so get right with yourself first! [/quote]

They have denounced everything racist brought to the public. (which is absolutely nothing)

There are fringe people in every movement. Why does everyone focus on a few fringe people in this particular group? Why must the T-party stear the conversation towards a discusion of racism and detract from their actual message.

“Jim Jones, Bill Ayers, Black Panthers, etc” all of this are present problems today, not 30-40 years ago. To-freaking-day.

Why the hell is no one calling for Peta or the salvation army or the damn UN to denounce racists in their midst?

The Freaking t-party has done it. Time and time and time again (they do it at every gathering I’ve been to), even though they shouldn’t have had to.

What the hell wrong with the T-party saying “yes, racism is bad, but our point and goals have nothing to do with that. Here is what we’re about”

Why exactly are you demanding they focus on racism as an issue? It’s not there any more than it is in our society. No one can even present any evidence of any incidents.

How about The freaking existing political parties (both) who have deeply racist elements? Where are the cries and outrage about them not doing enough to get rid of them? They certainly don’t do as much as the t-parties.

How about the blatantly racist law makers in march that falsely accused people of chanting racial slurs? Where is the outcry for the democratic party to get rid of them?

Yall are a joke. The only way to see this situation the way you do is to poke out both your eyes.

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[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

  1. I do believe in limited Government and Constitutional Principals.

  2. I have never denounced the Tea Party either personally or on the Board. My points are more a “warning” for a Party that could…and I emphasize could lead to some level of change if they are not “hi-jacked”.

Why do you think they will not survive?

Mufasa
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Essentially because all of the government programs are too entrenched at this point. Even if somehow the Tea Partiers were to elect a president and get a majority in congress (yeah right), they couldn’t even privatize the post office, let alone end the fed or any of the other seriously entrenched programs. The one thing they may be able to do is draw back the military, but I’m not convinced that most Tea Partiers want that anyways.

The moment they started cutting back on government programs, people would start complaining about it. Reducing welfare? The poor people hate you. Ending the Fed? You lose the support of the bankers and the super rich. Privatizing Social Security? You must hate the elderly. No politician could ever get away with anything like this. Sorry to say it to the limited government types, but we are on a road from which I don’t believe we can ever come back from, of course until the inevitable collapse happens.

I have a feeling that most of them aren’t as small government as they say anyways, at least not when “their” guy is in office. Hell, they probably won’t even get elected anyways if they ran. Either way, I don’t think they will survive.
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Good post, and this is why I’m really starting to like Chris Christie.

He’s cutting spending across the board and is very unapologetic about it.

Sorry for the hijack.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
.[/quote]

The white house with a watermelon patch is your proof that the tea party is racist? get the fuck outta here…How is a internet pic related to them at all…you are stretching big time with this one, or did a tea partier sneak into Michelle Obama’s veggie garden wreck havok. I guess all cats really say LOLZ too in real life. [/quote]

Jesus fucking Christ. You bit hook, line and sinker on those. I just typed in Tea Party racism on Google and posted the first few pics that I thought were funny. I figured they’d be a good way to rile some shit up.[/quote]

Dude, there is no doubt in my mind that you were trying to make a point with all of those pictures you posted. Don’t flake now that you’ve been called on it.
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If I was trying to make a point or I truly believed that a few pics were evidence of racism in the TP, don’t you think I would have responded to all the people here who have directly addressed these pics? If I was trying to use those pics to back up something, don’t you think I would have continued to back that point up throughout this thread? A mind reader you ain’t.

You can say all you want about me, but one thing that definitely holds true about me on all of these threads on this forum is that if I make a point I will always back it up and defend it. And on the few occasions where someone has made a good enough point or argument against a stance of mine, I’ve admitted as much. Normally it seems like it’s me against a whole slew of people here but I still try to make my point.[/quote]

lol…oooook…

Why is it that every time someone posts a picture of a monkey in a poltical context all the liberals think they are talking about black people?