NAACP Plays Race Card on Tea Party

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:
What I think is so funny is how obama jumped the gun and pressured her firring, when not long ago he came down hard on a certain police officer that was just doing his job as acting stupidy. Today Robert Gibbs issued an apology saying they acted withou all the facts. I think another beer summit is in order.[/quote]

No this is not the same.

The police officer thing they commented on without know any fact about the officer.

This racist lady they commented on after listening to her racist views.

Further, they immediately apologized to this racist because they later found out she claimed to have gotten better about racial decision making (even though she still admits racist beliefs), the officer (who was never racist to begin with) was never apologized to publicly.[/quote]

I never said it was the same. I agree with you thet they knew nothing about the officer. Yes she was treated alot better than him. I was trying to make the point of the incompitence of this administration by comparing the two, and maybe point out that obama might be a littler racist himself

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DoubleDuece
I just watched the last 2 parts of the video, and I think you are right. I saw the first where she said she had seen where it was not black and white, but late in the speech all she does is refer to people and thier color. I believe she still has some hate in her. I do not know her personally though so it is hard to be sure

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Her reflections of “his own people” were her current beliefs.

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I agree, so I will not ask anyone to help get her job back, but I just read where she was offered a unique job. What is this? Administrator of the redistribution of farm land from white to black. sarcasm

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[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:

SO your unaware of a historical event known as Sherman’s march to the sea, how typical.[/quote]

How cute. Someone point this toad in the right direction.

Show me evidence that (1) Sherman encouraged his soldiers to rape anyone, and (2) Sherman discouraged the rape of white women.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

I’m serious about this. The short version with her racist view of whites, viewing things along racial lines, and with holding of aid due to race was entirely in context. How does saying, “25 years later I don’t do that any more” absolve her?
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It’s difficult not to respond to this sarcastically, particularly given your posting history regarding the civil war.

For others reading this thread, this is why outsiders like myself sometimes see racist tendencies in the tea party.

Actions speak a lot louder than words. She saved their farm. Period. She did not withhold aid. The (white!) farmers themselves fully support her. Period. Further, when her comments are taken in context, they do not appear racist whatsoever.

In the words of the (white!) farmer in the video, “[People who say she’s racist] Don’t know what they’re talking about! They don’t know what they’re talking about!”

Bluntly speaking DD, I don’t think you’ll admit fault in this. That’s fine. We can respectfully disagree. I hope you can, however, see how from an outsider’s perspective, continuing to harp on this woman after all the facts came out makes you yourself get questioned further (again, particularly given your views on the civil war).

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The story still serves a purpose. It demonstrates the almost phobic hysteria over racism, and the knee-jerk responses born of it. The left might remember that the next time they try to malign an entire group of people. Or, wait, stereotypes are good now? Hard to keep up!

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

I’m serious about this. The short version with her racist view of whites, viewing things along racial lines, and with holding of aid due to race was entirely in context. How does saying, “25 years later I don’t do that any more” absolve her?
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It’s difficult not to respond to this sarcastically, particularly given your posting history regarding the civil war.

For others reading this thread, this is why outsiders like myself sometimes see racist tendencies in the tea party.

Actions speak a lot louder than words. She saved their farm. Period. She did not withhold aid. The (white!) farmers themselves fully support her. Period. Further, when her comments are taken in context, they do not appear racist whatsoever.

In the words of the (white!) farmer in the video, “[People who say she’s racist] Don’t know what they’re talking about! They don’t know what they’re talking about!”

Bluntly speaking DD, I don’t think you’ll admit fault in this. That’s fine. We can respectfully disagree. I hope you can, however, see how from an outsider’s perspective, continuing to harp on this woman after all the facts came out makes you yourself get questioned further (again, particularly given your views on the civil war). [/quote]

WTF? Are you serious?

Yes, she saved there farm, but she also admits to initial withholding aid. She also still sees things racially. She also still considers whites and black 2 different peoples. I know racist white guys who have black friends. Somehow having black friends doesnâ??t work as an excuse.

And could you explain how my views on the civil war overshadow my opinion of this.

Iâ??ll bet money that if a white guy made a similar speech, no one would be on his side.

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The hypocrisy is ALWAYS the same in this forum. And the rightwingers are the lousiest bunch-

“Fox this/ Bible that”

“Actually…”

"I still believe that person is a traitor/ god loves me and you gonna roast "

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[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:
My apologies on the video not being completely true. I found it on biggovernment.com and thought it was relevent to the topic. Breightbart only had access to that part though, why would the naacp only release that bit. I think this shoes thier intention very well. If they were not racist and wanted to bring people together, they would have released the whole thing, because it shows a change of heart. I believe they only released that part to keep racism alive, but I do believe we will see more come out about this befor it is over. Again though I am sorry for posting something out of context, and will do a better job here on out. I also owe Sherod an apology.[/quote]

Oh, come on. The NAACP did not release a partial video because they are “racist” and “want to keep racism alive.” They released it with a CONDEMNATION of her conduct out of stupidity, in a rush to judgment without actually searching their own archives or consulting the speaker. If anything, they were overly concerned with condeming racism of all types, against all colors. So much so that they failed to do their homework. [/quote]

They did not do it to candemn her. She was not even fired untill it was thought she would be on Beck. Trust me the naacp would not fail to do their homework on someone they wanted to condemn. I have seen them dig up stuff as far back as this, also if they watched enough to see theese clips, they would have seen the part where she explains how she changed, and yes she should get her job back. I am sending out an email to my tea party asking them to call people in the gov, since we are in GA.
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It was not the NAACP that released the tape at all, and she did not work for them. Once it was released, the NAACP rushed to judgment and issued a condemnation (without any actual investigation or determining all the facts). As did the USDA and administration. As for watching the clips, the NAACP could not watch the full clips until they dug up the videos from their archives, which yes, they should have done before making any public statements.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
She still admitted to racist practices in her job, she just thinks she got better. How does this absolve her?[/quote]

Well it shows progress. We all have demons to conquer and it takes time for a person to change. If she says she has changed as she did in the full video, I think she deserves another chance. She does still have marxist redistibution leanings wjich concerns me way more than what she did 25 yrs ago. I think an eye should be kept on her.[/quote]

What?

A woman with a billion dollar tax payer funded budged admits to distributing aid based on race and still having tenancies to view things racially, and she gets another chance?

If it were a white guy would he get another chance?

This stuff she admits to thinking and even currently believing is nauseating. “it was obvious he was trying to show he superiority to me” ← she admits to still believing that.[/quote]

Where is it that she actually admitted to distributing aid differentially? Not to the farmers in question here, at least.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
She still admitted to racist practices in her job, she just thinks she got better. How does this absolve her?[/quote]

Well it shows progress. We all have demons to conquer and it takes time for a person to change. If she says she has changed as she did in the full video, I think she deserves another chance. She does still have marxist redistibution leanings wjich concerns me way more than what she did 25 yrs ago. I think an eye should be kept on her.[/quote]

What?

A woman with a billion dollar tax payer funded budged admits to distributing aid based on race and still having tenancies to view things racially, and she gets another chance?

If it were a white guy would he get another chance?

This stuff she admits to thinking and even currently believing is nauseating. “it was obvious he was trying to show he superiority to me” ← she admits to still believing that.[/quote]

Where is it that she actually admitted to distributing aid differentially? Not to the farmers in question here, at least. [/quote]

The “so I didn’t do all I could do, I did enough” part. She apparently fixed it later. but she still did it.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
She still admitted to racist practices in her job, she just thinks she got better. How does this absolve her?[/quote]

Well it shows progress. We all have demons to conquer and it takes time for a person to change. If she says she has changed as she did in the full video, I think she deserves another chance. She does still have marxist redistibution leanings wjich concerns me way more than what she did 25 yrs ago. I think an eye should be kept on her.[/quote]

What?

A woman with a billion dollar tax payer funded budged admits to distributing aid based on race and still having tenancies to view things racially, and she gets another chance?

If it were a white guy would he get another chance?

This stuff she admits to thinking and even currently believing is nauseating. “it was obvious he was trying to show he superiority to me” ← she admits to still believing that.[/quote]

Where is it that she actually admitted to distributing aid differentially? Not to the farmers in question here, at least. [/quote]

The “so I didn’t do all I could do, I did enough” part. She apparently fixed it later. but she still did it.[/quote]

She ultimately did all she could do for THAT family and there is no evidence the same does not hold true for other white familers.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
She still admitted to racist practices in her job, she just thinks she got better. How does this absolve her?[/quote]

Well it shows progress. We all have demons to conquer and it takes time for a person to change. If she says she has changed as she did in the full video, I think she deserves another chance. She does still have marxist redistibution leanings wjich concerns me way more than what she did 25 yrs ago. I think an eye should be kept on her.[/quote]

What?

A woman with a billion dollar tax payer funded budged admits to distributing aid based on race and still having tenancies to view things racially, and she gets another chance?

If it were a white guy would he get another chance?

This stuff she admits to thinking and even currently believing is nauseating. “it was obvious he was trying to show he superiority to me” ← she admits to still believing that.[/quote]

Where is it that she actually admitted to distributing aid differentially? Not to the farmers in question here, at least. [/quote]

The “so I didn’t do all I could do, I did enough” part. She apparently fixed it later. but she still did it.[/quote]

She ultimately did all she could do for THAT family and there is no evidence the same does not hold true for other white familers. [/quote]

So if a white guy in charge of a billion dollars of tax money said “well initially, I didn’t do everything I could for this black guy. It was obvious he was talking down to me because I was white. I tried taking him to a black lawyer so his own people could take care of him, but they didn’t. So in the end I helped the guy out.” You’d be okay with that? You wouldn’t see any racism in it? You’d fight for him to keep his job?

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DD- If you listen to the words of Vilsack (sp?), you should be proud. It’s because of people such as yourself that she was sacked.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
DD- If you listen to the words of Vilsack (sp?), you should be proud. It’s because of people such as yourself that she was sacked. [/quote]

LOL. You mean I’m like the obama administration?

Didn’t answer my question.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]SUPER-T wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
She still admitted to racist practices in her job, she just thinks she got better. How does this absolve her?[/quote]

Well it shows progress. We all have demons to conquer and it takes time for a person to change. If she says she has changed as she did in the full video, I think she deserves another chance. She does still have marxist redistibution leanings wjich concerns me way more than what she did 25 yrs ago. I think an eye should be kept on her.[/quote]

What?

A woman with a billion dollar tax payer funded budged admits to distributing aid based on race and still having tenancies to view things racially, and she gets another chance?

If it were a white guy would he get another chance?

This stuff she admits to thinking and even currently believing is nauseating. “it was obvious he was trying to show he superiority to me” ← she admits to still believing that.[/quote]

Where is it that she actually admitted to distributing aid differentially? Not to the farmers in question here, at least. [/quote]

The “so I didn’t do all I could do, I did enough” part. She apparently fixed it later. but she still did it.[/quote]

She ultimately did all she could do for THAT family and there is no evidence the same does not hold true for other white familers. [/quote]

So if a white guy in charge of a billion dollars of tax money said “well initially, I didn’t do everything I could for this black guy. It was obvious he was talking down to me because I was white. I tried taking him to a black lawyer so his own people could take care of him, but they didn’t. So in the end I helped the guy out.” You’d be okay with that? You wouldn’t see any racism in it? You’d fight for him to keep his job?[/quote]

Good point…The ultimate result does negate the words used. There is a double standard here. To say otherwise is simply dishonest.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
DD- If you listen to the words of Vilsack (sp?), you should be proud. It’s because of people such as yourself that she was sacked. [/quote]

LOL. You mean I’m like the obama administration?

Didn’t answer my question.[/quote]

Nah, I mean poor, white guys living in rural districts who will scream “RACISM!!!” at every decision she makes from this point forth because of a heavily edited video posted on a douche-bag’s website.

You should be proud(?).

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Anyone see the Jim Webb piece?

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