[quote]Malevolence wrote:
Pharrell Williams has made more money in under a decade than you will make in your entire life. Some failure.[/quote]
So has Paris Hilton. (and no, I mean with her books, tv shows and ‘acting’ and ‘singing’ she has in addition to her inheritance).
She stil fails at life in my book. Is money the only measure of success?
some of their older stuff is awesome.
Lap Dance and Rock Star being 2 of my all time favourite tracks.
[quote]rsg wrote:
FlavaDave wrote:
I’m still scratching my head over this, so my question is what do you listen to rsg?
What’s so confusing?
The beat sucks & the lyrics are ridiculous - at least some people here can see that.
As I wrote before, my preferred genres are rock/alternative/some metal/rap&hiphop/house/chillout. I like some of the stuff on the radio, it’s just that a lot of it is made primarily for money with no thought; the same thing over and over again gets monotonous.
If something has a good beat to it, then I’m all for it and I don’t care what the majority think.[/quote]
I’m just trying to figure out where you’re comfort zone is based on examples.
oh hey here’s another song to annoy you
A beat CAN annoy you - like if it’s in 9/16ths time - that’ll weird you out. But all these songs are 4/4th with very MINOR syncopation.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.
You’re a dumbass. Pharrell is older than me so what are you talking about? He was born in 1973. He is far from 20 years old.
Your perspective on quite a few things seems pretty off. You have either been extremely sheltered your entire life…or you are dumb enough to actually believe much of what you write.
In fact, the majority of the people who actually make the music “younger people” listen to are in their mid to late 30’s (or older in some cases if referring to those like Dr. Dre). Most of the artists younger than that couldn’t produce their way out of a paper bag, with artists like Kanye West being the exception.[/quote]
i never said pharrel was 20 years old. i said I was 20 years old. exactly what is my perspective “off” on? the song is exactly what i said its about. i thought he was younger than he really was, holy shit youre right i must be sheltered my entire life because i didnt do a biography on Pharrel.
i dont think you should be calling anyone sheltered either. from what ive gathered from your posts your life consists of: posting on T-Nation, playing video games, eating, working, and going to the gym.
[quote]rsg wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
I’m 20. i just dont see how you can think thats a bad song, its completely original in terms of sound. thats what i like about them, theyre always doing something new muscially.
They’re not afraid to try out new creative things and a lot of the times it works, case being this song. i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.
I was going to dignify this with an answer but Prof nailed it well.
I’m 23, so I am by no means old and your “theory” holds no water.
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you may not be old but you still have shitty taste in music.
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
So has Paris Hilton. (and no, I mean with her books, tv shows and ‘acting’ and ‘singing’ she has in addition to her inheritance).
She stil fails at life in my book. Is money the only measure of success?[/quote]
The original post was trying to make the argument that N.E.R.D failed at music. Which, given that they are amongst the most successful acts working in the music industry, is entirely false.
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
A beat CAN annoy you - like if it’s in 9/16ths time - that’ll weird you out. But all these songs are 4/4th with very MINOR syncopation.[/quote]
Meters are just pulses. How they feel has more to do with how you count them. In the case of 9/16, you would likely count it 3+3+3, which would make it feel similar to fast triplets. But even if you counted it in 3+4+2, it still wouldn’t feel all that weird because you’re still dealing with pulses that are easily divisible or could easily be written in 4/4 time(albeit with some notes going over the barline)
The stranger meters are the ones that are not easily divisible by 2 or 3. 5/4, 10/4, 11/8.
But even then, it still matters more how you count it, and there have been extensive musical traditions that revolve around 5s, 11s, 13s and 10s(which is often felt as a double time 5).
You can make 4/4 time feel incredibly awkward if you avoid defining a 1. Even more so if you avoid defining a 2,3,4. By use of anticipations, ties and syncopation.
Tempo makes a big impact in whether or not something will ‘feel’ awkward. In the above example of 9/16, let’s say, instead of 16ths you used half notes. so 9/2, and you played it at 50 bpm. Well, it would become very easy to lose track of where the pulse is at that point, regardless of how you counted it, it would quickly stop feeling like it even HAD a pulse.
[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
oh hey here’s another song to annoy you
i love that song
rap is my supermarket
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
A beat CAN annoy you - like if it’s in 9/16ths time - that’ll weird you out. But all these songs are 4/4th with very MINOR syncopation.
Meters are just pulses. How they feel has more to do with how you count them. In the case of 9/16, you would likely count it 3+3+3, which would make it feel similar to fast triplets. But even if you counted it in 3+4+2, it still wouldn’t feel all that weird because you’re still dealing with pulses that are easily divisible or could easily be written in 4/4 time(albeit with some notes going over the barline)
The stranger meters are the ones that are not easily divisible by 2 or 3. 5/4, 10/4, 11/8.
But even then, it still matters more how you count it, and there have been extensive musical traditions that revolve around 5s, 11s, 13s and 10s(which is often felt as a double time 5).
You can make 4/4 time feel incredibly awkward if you avoid defining a 1. Even more so if you avoid defining a 2,3,4. By use of anticipations, ties and syncopation.
Tempo makes a big impact in whether or not something will ‘feel’ awkward. In the above example of 9/16, let’s say, instead of 16ths you used half notes. so 9/2, and you played it at 50 bpm. Well, it would become very easy to lose track of where the pulse is at that point, regardless of how you counted it, it would quickly stop feeling like it even HAD a pulse.
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Dude, I’m a musician too…you’re preaching to the choir, no pun intended.
But PHYSIOLOGICALLY speaking anything that doesn’t tie nicely OUR pulses will ‘feel’ a little odd. And 9/16th was chosen because even though it’s a bunch of 3rds, that feels like a fast waltz and that’s hilarious to think it would even exist in modern hip hop or dance music.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.
You’re a dumbass. Pharrell is older than me so what are you talking about? He was born in 1973. He is far from 20 years old.
Your perspective on quite a few things seems pretty off. You have either been extremely sheltered your entire life…or you are dumb enough to actually believe much of what you write.
In fact, the majority of the people who actually make the music “younger people” listen to are in their mid to late 30’s (or older in some cases if referring to those like Dr. Dre). Most of the artists younger than that couldn’t produce their way out of a paper bag, with artists like Kanye West being the exception.
I never said pharrel was 20 years old. i said I was 20 years old. exactly what is my perspective “off” on? the song is exactly what I said its about. i thought he was younger than he really was, holy shit youre right i must be sheltered my entire life because i didnt do a biography on Pharrel.
i dont think you should be calling anyone sheltered either. from what ive gathered from your posts your life consists of: posting on T-Nation, playing video games, eating, working, and going to the gym.[/quote]
You actually wrote, “[quote]you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people[/quote]”. this is false. Most of these guys who write this music are not that young and are in their 30’s. Pharrell is 35 years old. Why back-peddle now? As far as you calling me sheltered, I don’t think that term applies to military personnel unless they never left the country. You don’t have more life experience than me judging by your “informative” posts.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Pharrell isn’t lazy…such a retarded statement. Where have you been for the past 15 years??
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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Actually I COMMENTED on YOUR argument that Pharrell is lazy…which had no logic to back your argument. I don’t know how I attacked you…sensitive are we?So how does an admitted non musician back up stating that a music producer is lazy? Hmmm?
And i’m sure Kanye and Pharrell are having good time “comparing” each other while working on their CRS album along with Lupe Fiasco
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Misread the opening paragraph of your first post. As much as I disagree with your opinion, I took it foo far with my comment, and for that I’m sorry.
However, to reply to you: I believe Pharrell is lazy as a rapper because his lyrics are consistently underwhelming and drab. All he can rap about is how good his life is, and various topics of the bubble-gum variety.
At the same time, I know he can deliver material of a higher quality, as he did in the only CRS track I’ve heard so far (the one which has a clip done by pharrel’s ex, the one with the kids). Speaking of that, I wonder if that project will ever take off? Haven’t heard anything about it since that one clip.
I’m also inclined to think he’s a lazy producer. E.g. when he was working on ODB’s material, once again, what came out was cookie-cutter, lackluster production. IMO, without Chad, Pharrel can’t produce well either.
To cap off, I’m not saying he’s a bad musician. A good 2/3 of Jay-Z’s guest verses are subpar, and I’m sure we can all agree that he can be great when he tries. It’s just that he seems to not put forth the effort a lot of the time.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.
You’re a dumbass. Pharrell is older than me so what are you talking about? He was born in 1973. He is far from 20 years old.
Your perspective on quite a few things seems pretty off. You have either been extremely sheltered your entire life…or you are dumb enough to actually believe much of what you write.
In fact, the majority of the people who actually make the music “younger people” listen to are in their mid to late 30’s (or older in some cases if referring to those like Dr. Dre). Most of the artists younger than that couldn’t produce their way out of a paper bag, with artists like Kanye West being the exception.
I never said pharrel was 20 years old. i said I was 20 years old. exactly what is my perspective “off” on? the song is exactly what i said its about. i thought he was younger than he really was, holy shit youre right i must be sheltered my entire life because i didnt do a biography on Pharrel.
i dont think you should be calling anyone sheltered either. from what ive gathered from your posts your life consists of: posting on T-Nation, playing video games, eating, working, and going to the gym.
You actually wrote, “you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people”. this is false. Most of these guys who write this music are not that young and are in their 30’s. Pharrell is 35 years old. Why back-peddle now?
As far as you calling me sheltered, I don’t think that term applies to military personnel unless they never left the country. You don’t have more life experience than me judging by your “informative” posts.[/quote]
i dont have more xbox live experience either.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You actually wrote, “you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people”. this is false. Most of these guys who write this music are not that young and are in their 30’s. Pharrell is 35 years old. Why back-peddle now?
As far as you calling me sheltered, I don’t think that term applies to military personnel unless they never left the country. You don’t have more life experience than me judging by your “informative” posts.[/quote]
But he has a mohawk. Totally cool.
Right?
… guys?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Professor X wrote:
You actually wrote, “you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people”. this is false. Most of these guys who write this music are not that young and are in their 30’s. Pharrell is 35 years old. Why back-peddle now?
As far as you calling me sheltered, I don’t think that term applies to military personnel unless they never left the country. You don’t have more life experience than me judging by your “informative” posts.
But he has a mohawk. Totally cool.
Right?
… guys?[/quote]
I wub E-Wars?
[quote]SSC wrote:
I wub E-Wars?[/quote]
I wub my penis in the shower.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
I dont have more xbox live experience either.
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Whoah, what a whopper of a comeback. I guess it would help if I had an X-Box at all, huh?
You’re a kid who talks too much without having shit to say. Make a real come back and try this again when you actually accomplish something in life besides cocaine references and the belief that everyone a little older than you is somehow less informed about life than you are.
How is college coming along?
High school?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
SSC wrote:
I wub E-Wars?
I wub my penis in the shower.[/quote]
Gee, and I thought I was the only one all along.
Why I listen to only Trance…
