N.E.R.D Musical Failure

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Pharrell isn’t lazy…such a retarded statement. Where have you been for the past 15 years??

He’s a PRODUCER who just doesn’t take himself too seriously AS AN ARTIST…as most (coughKanye) do these days. N.E.R.D. is for fun…nothing more.
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“Although I cannot lay an egg, I am a very good judge of omelettes.” Your opening argument lacks logic and/or sense. I’m not a musician, and I was 5 15 years ago, so what’s your fucking point? A PERSONAL attack against your opponent does NOT disprove his initial point.

Now… Pharrell is a very lazy - yet talented - musician and producer. Right now, both as a solo artist and part of NERD, Pharrell is just living off his fame and making music… yeah, probably for fun. And cash.

However, he is NOWHERE near as thorough as Kanye. Kanye, although not a good lyricist OR rapper, is VERY serious when it comes to production and music overall. Don’t even compare the two.

Pharrell’s solo album (“in my mind”), by the way, was hot garbage.

[quote]G87 wrote:

Pharrell’s solo album (“in my mind”), by the way, was hot garbage.[/quote]

In a good way? Because I heard it was total shit. In a bad way.

Fun fact: Remember the song from wRexx & Effects or whatever they were called…the song rumpshaker? Pharell wrote that…he was like 14 at the time.

I’m still scratching my head over this, so my question is what do you listen to rsg?

[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
I’m still scratching my head over this, so my question is what do you listen to rsg?[/quote]

Rage Against The N.E.R.D ?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
SSC wrote:
rsg wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Everything played on Billboard free radio is FAIL, bottom line.

Try listening to some underground Metal and Indie for a change. It may just open your eyes to music that is not only as diverse as it is complex, but also to a whole 'nother world.

Try listening to Agalloch, Sigur Ros, Anterior, or even Burzum. You’ll never want to listen to “Grammy” music or “MTV” music again.

It would be a long stretch to say I go out of my way to listen to the radio. I heard this crap on tv when it was mixed into some program.

My main genres are rock/alternative/metal/rap/house/chillout. I can tolerate some of this commercial music, but most of it bothers me, so I try avoid it.

There’s obviously a market for it though, as you can tell from some of the responses.

It’s interesting; N.E.R.D. use to have some interesting shit in their music, and they just went terrible. They remind me of an [even worse] version of Gnarles Barkley. There are, however, a lot of really talented musicians in the mainstream market. For one, Justin Timberlake.

Oh yeah, I said it. Like him or not, I know I don’t, the man’s pretty talented. He just happens to make shitty music that gets him millions of dollars a year and a boat load of women to have sex with…

No one said pop stars were dumb, that’s for sure.

Except the Simpson sisters. They suck in all ways possible, really.

What the fuck is wrong with Gnarles Barkely?

I think some of you just have bad taste. I can’t stand that NERD song, but apparently someone likes it because they keep buying their shit.

I liked some of his other stuff, like “Can I Have It Like That” with Gwen Steph, but much of it sounds like he is trying to copy Timberland’s unique use of different random sounds to come up with a beat. The difference is, Timberland’s shit actually sounds good most of the time.[/quote]

I don’t think Gnarles Barkley is a bad band, I actually really like Danger Mouse and most of everything that Cee-Lo has done. To me, it just seems like the two guys got together to make obscure music just for the sake of making obscure music.

The critics picked it up, and they had a good, catchy single. Put those two ignredients together and you have one overhyped album. Again, not bad, but far too critically acclaimed for what they did musically… IMHO.

[quote]rsg wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
anyway to find out you think everyone nose is the worst song…wow i think you have absolutely terrible taste in music. im not gonna stand here saying throwing insults over it. i just think you have really really really really bad taste, or ears, if you think that song is bad let alone terrible or “musical failure”.

How old are you?[/quote]

I’m 20. i just dont see how you can think thats a bad song, its completely original in terms of sound. thats what i like about them, theyre always doing something new muscially.

They’re not afraid to try out new creative things and a lot of the times it works, case being this song. i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke.[/quote]

Do you even know how old these guys are? I’m 21, and I don’t spend MY time hanging around fucktards that do coke and “party” 24/7.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke.

Do you even know how old these guys are? I’m 21, and I don’t spend MY time hanging around fucktards that do coke and “party” 24/7.[/quote]

Leaves thread and takes his bag of coke with him

[quote]G87 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Pharrell isn’t lazy…such a retarded statement. Where have you been for the past 15 years??

He’s a PRODUCER who just doesn’t take himself too seriously AS AN ARTIST…as most (coughKanye) do these days. N.E.R.D. is for fun…nothing more.

“Although I cannot lay an egg, I am a very good judge of omelettes.” Your opening argument lacks logic and/or sense. I’m not a musician, and I was 5 15 years ago, so what’s your fucking point? A PERSONAL attack against your opponent does NOT disprove his initial point.

Now… Pharrell is a very lazy - yet talented - musician and producer. Right now, both as a solo artist and part of NERD, Pharrell is just living off his fame and making music… yeah, probably for fun. And cash.

However, he is NOWHERE near as thorough as Kanye. Kanye, although not a good lyricist OR rapper, is VERY serious when it comes to production and music overall. Don’t even compare the two.

Pharrell’s solo album (“in my mind”), by the way, was hot garbage.[/quote]
Actually I COMMENTED on YOUR argument that Pharrell is lazy…which had no logic to back your argument. I don’t know how I attacked you…sensitive are we?So how does an admitted non musician back up stating that a music producer is lazy? Hmmm?

And i’m sure Kanye and Pharrell are having good time “comparing” each other while working on their CRS album along with Lupe Fiasco

[quote]TermInNate wrote:
Leaves thread and takes his bag of coke with him[/quote]

ROFL!

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.[/quote]

You’re a dumbass. Pharrell is older than me so what are you talking about? He was born in 1973. He is far from 20 years old.

Your perspective on quite a few things seems pretty off. You have either been extremely sheltered your entire life…or you are dumb enough to actually believe much of what you write.

In fact, the majority of the people who actually make the music “younger people” listen to are in their mid to late 30’s (or older in some cases if referring to those like Dr. Dre). Most of the artists younger than that couldn’t produce their way out of a paper bag, with artists like Kanye West being the exception.

[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
I’m still scratching my head over this, so my question is what do you listen to rsg?[/quote]

What’s so confusing?

The beat sucks & the lyrics are ridiculous - at least some people here can see that.

As I wrote before, my preferred genres are rock/alternative/some metal/rap&hiphop/house/chillout. I like some of the stuff on the radio, it’s just that a lot of it is made primarily for money with no thought; the same thing over and over again gets monotonous.

If something has a good beat to it, then I’m all for it and I don’t care what the majority think.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
I’m 20. i just dont see how you can think thats a bad song, its completely original in terms of sound. thats what i like about them, theyre always doing something new muscially.

They’re not afraid to try out new creative things and a lot of the times it works, case being this song. i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.[/quote]

I was going to dignify this with an answer but Prof nailed it well.

I’m 23, so I am by no means old and your “theory” holds no water.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
G87 wrote:

Pharrell’s solo album (“in my mind”), by the way, was hot garbage.

In a good way? Because I heard it was total shit. In a bad way. [/quote]

Nah, in a bad way. Wouldn’t say it was total shit, but damn close. The DJ Drama mixtape was considerably better.

So we’re all pretty much in agreement that N.E.R.D just blows and that there’s no further reason to listen to them, right? I’d rather listen to Dragonforce (vomits) than listen to “Ringtone Rappers” like Pharrell

[quote]rsg wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
I’m 20. i just dont see how you can think thats a bad song, its completely original in terms of sound. thats what i like about them, theyre always doing something new muscially.

They’re not afraid to try out new creative things and a lot of the times it works, case being this song. i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.

I was going to dignify this with an answer but Prof nailed it well.

I’m 23, so I am by no means old and your “theory” holds no water.

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Hell, I just checked and Kanye West is even over the age of 30. Are there even ANY decent producers who also rap who are under the age of 25 right now creating shit worth listening to?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
rsg wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
I’m 20. i just dont see how you can think thats a bad song, its completely original in terms of sound. thats what i like about them, theyre always doing something new muscially.

They’re not afraid to try out new creative things and a lot of the times it works, case being this song. i mean whatever, you probaly dont like it because its made for younger people by younger people its about partying and girls doing coke. I just really think its a good song though.

I was going to dignify this with an answer but Prof nailed it well.

I’m 23, so I am by no means old and your “theory” holds no water.

Hell, I just checked and Kanye West is even over the age of 30. Are there even ANY decent producers who also rap who are under the age of 25 right now creating shit worth listening to?[/quote]

I don’t mind some of T.I’s stuff, but he’s 27 - so out of that bracket.

Bow Wow? Oh wait, you said decent.

You all seem to be forgetting Lil Wayne. Or is he 26?

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
You all seem to be forgetting Lil Wayne. Or is he 26?[/quote]

He’s 26. All of these dudes are older than some in this thread seemed to think they were. Timbaland is 37 or 38.