My Quest for the "Bodyweight OHP"

I wouldn’t say that. You are just performing the press in a different manner than I am.

Does it become a military press when you are more strict? I’m confused, I thought military press was just another name for OHP.

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No, I’m pitifully weak right now, haha. I’ve been sick forever.

But yeah. The press I’m referring to is known as the Olympic Press. The military press should generally refer to a stricter standing press, probably the way you’re doing it. The Olympic Press is utilized to primarily train the movement, while the military press is used to primarily train a muscle. However, all of these are classified under the OHP.

I train the Olympic Press because I want to.

However, I can also perform 160 pushups in 10 minutes. So there’s that.

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I feel personally attacked right now

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Yes, I watched a few videos and I understand the difference now. Military press is basically the same movement without the body English. I understand what you mean about it for “training a movement”.

Since I started training my OHP (or military press) I always opted to progress using minimal body English. So if I wasn’t able to get the weight up in a strict fashion, I didn’t progress.

Should I have specified this information before I made this post? I think most of the information I have gotten still applies.

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I would consider what @liftangryordie500 is doing to be closer to a push press than a strict press, with the amount of body English and leg drive he’s using. It’s still a legit lift, but you can definitely put up more weight when you do it that way. It’s even a good way to get stronger in the strict press.

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A true military press would be a dead stop press from the chest standing at attention with heels together and with very minimal lean back. If you look up old training of Maxick or Saxon you’ll see pictures or descriptions of this

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There is no leg drive being utilized in that press. I’d deem it similar to this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bve6U94gDHI/

@anon10035199 this is how my press would look from a different angle.

I’m not being a dick cuz the guy in the video is clearly stronger than me. By a long distance. But that’s a standing bench press is it not. If I leant that far back my training partner would hit me with a stick.

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You have to accept that everyone is different. Different training goals and egos.

I do OHP and push press and I always distinguish which one I’m doing.

OHP = strict press but not a military press
Push press = OHP with leg drive
Push jerk = push press with a drop of the hips to catch the weight

You’ll see that everyone is different. If it’s on social media then it’s probably the version that let’s them put up the most weight.

Can you say disk herniation ?

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If:

  • the hip and/or knee angle doesn’t close
  • the ankle angle doesn’t open
  • the heels remain in contact with the floor
  • the weight is stablised overhead
  • elbows are locked out
  • head is forward

Then it’s good. Otherwise, how do you judge how much lean is okay? You can’t be completely straight unless you have no face.

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I mean…I’m not going to sit here and try to defend my press. If Olympic pressing were dangerous, it would have been removed from competition! Right? Right? :wink:
I also press the way I press because I have an inflated ego, as @Frank_C so eloquently stated.

I kid. I press the way I press because I want to press the way I press. Nuff said.

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I wasn’t trying to call out your press for not being good. It’s still a press, just like you said, an ‘Olympic press’, not a strict or military press. There’s also the reason they took it out of the Olympics, it became impossible to judge, and there were people who were basically doing a standing bench press, they leaned back so much…

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My original reason for even posting my press on this thread was because I did not know that @anon10035199 was aiming for a Bodyweight Military-Style Press.

I would be of no help to him in this area, however, because I have experience with reaching a bodyweight press by utilizing a moderate layback to begin the rep.

If I’ve come over as attacking you I’m not. I just think that the ammount of lay back in the Chase video is a bit “much”. But that said you have a body weight ohp using the same technique so I can see why you feel I might be digging at you. So I’ll clear it up, irrespective of the nuance of form a body weight ohp is good. Well done.

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Yeah I guess. I just think that’s too much. Impressive but to much.

Thank you. I didn’t bend to the degree of layback Chase uses frequently (because I don’t feel stable bending that far back), but I was posting his video in order to show that no leg drive was being utilized in the concentric motion of the press. We share the same technique, but I use significantly less layback simply because I am more comfortable doing so.

Bros!

Ripplestiltskin Wants us to argue about like this! He wants us to divide us.

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I remember reading a loooog time ago. That there was a big controversy at one of the Olympics over judging it. Where the eastern block nations were doing some major lean back. Which was allowed due to bias on the judges part.

Rip is a CIA troll . :smirk:

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