Unless you’re under 5’ you need to weigh more and eat more.
Even though that’s an extremely hypo-caloric diet, having wrestled in high school, I understand where he’s coming from.
I’ve seen guys do some wacky shit to make weight.
That said, it’s still lacking in balance and nutrients. Maybe you should wrestle in a higher class so you can comfortably make weight without extreme measures…
i think your overreacting a bit…i dont have an eating disorder…according to a doctor an ideal weight for me is between 110 and 130…and at the rate water is coming off of me
(119.8 this morning) i wont need to stay with this for 2 weeks…might even only be a few more days.
you are uninformed, though, my friend, because you originally said you wanted to LOSE 12-14 pounds of fat.
after a carb binge it is basically expected to gain a good bloat, which is obviously mostly water and GI detritus, which you could have trained away eating normally, low carb, etc for a week and a half, seeing where your weight is, and then looking to manipulate water for the last few pounds
EATING 800 calories doesnt get rid of water. it messes with the physiological system
NOT SAYING YOUR GOAL IS REDICULOUS…though i think it is and this game that wrestlers pl,ay to make weight is dangerous and rediculous, but YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS LOW and that is obviously by the way you speak and the means to your ends.
i should have made that clear, i dont expect 12-14 pounds of fat loss…im expecting a few pounds of fat loss, and a ton of water weight loss
and im saying that water does not have calories, so why go so low? especially if you have strength and muscle you want to maintain
*go so low calorically
i studied alot of psmf…and if done shortly its generally safe…so thats what im doing but i modified it so i guess im just doing low carb now. i make sure i intake enough protein to protect lbm, if not a little more than needed.
got my good multivitamin…and eat alot of greens.i dont look like i have cancer at 114…and im not going to be 114 the rest of my life, just twice more. but afterwords, i wont binge…i’ll start doing a CKD again like i first did
Make a best estimation of how many calories per day you have been eating on average during the last year or whatever that you have not grown, that you consider “normal eating.”
Now find out from a medical professional if a highly active 14-year old really should be eating that little, or if maybe you have been eating too little and could that be related to why you have not grown.
And while there find out – now of course you could find out from peers as I suggested above, but if you like find out from a doctor though it is not as if doctors are particularly, or in fact at all, educated about this in medical school, or in residency, or at any time whatsoever – what sort of caloric intake is typical for a 14 year old athlete, and ocmpare that to your average.
Actually the doctor is highly unlikely to actually have any education on that but even so his figure will be better than what you are thinking.
And while there, you might as well ask about your theory that further growth must now be impossible anyway what with your having already reached the ripe old age of 14. Maybe he will inform you that your growth plates are unlikely to be closed yet.
The fact that a doctor said that your weight is healthy for your height does NOT in any way show you don’t have an eating disorder.
Rather how he or she can have told you your weight is normal is on account of these reasons:
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It has nothing to do with the entire issue of whether undereating could be a contributor to the short height
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It is ignoring that you have added muscle mass compared to the “normal” individual. You should for that reason weigh MORE than a typical in-shape 14-year old of your height.
And you would be at the upper end of weight for height – instead of aiming for the low end of the normal range – given your obvious seriousness for training, but for your eating disorder.
For a non-athletic kid that did not train, yes, 110 or so could be healthy for that height, if that was the product of normal eating. That is not you, in any of those regards (being non-athletic, not training, or eating normally.)
how old are you, just curious
im 14
i was eating about 3000 cal before, i would eat junk food, 2 pieces of pizza for lunch, lots of burgers for dinner and tons of liquid calories like chocolot milk. my parents are both 5"4’…my whole family is around that height to ignore that it would influence me is a little rediculous.
seriously, i perform like a machine at 114, dont look like i have cancer, and feel good. im making a weight twice more, then resuming eating habits of probably 200 cal above maintenence if not more with carb ups on the weekend.
i just think 1400 maintenance for an athlete is rediculous, even if you are 5’3 and 114
maybe, but i dont get why everyones jumping all over me.
psmf is safe in short term, which is what im doing.
i will not be eating like this for the rest of my life. nor do i want to weigh 114 the rest of my life, i think its a little rediculous that because i have to make a weight for wrestling, and i’d rather do it dieting with high protein to preserve lbm instead of the alternative of a garbage bag suit type scenerio where im trying to cut all this in water, suddenly makes me have an eating disorder.
Because you are trying to hurt yourself. People don’t care that much when an adult tries to hurt himself out of not knowing what he’s doing, but when a younger person is about to they tend to care about it.
If you are correct that your average caloric intake before was 3000 calories then this is totally contrary to your previous post that your maintenance is 1400 calories per day.
If you know that your average while weight was changing little was 3000 cal/day, then THAT is what you should be figuring from. Reduce some modest amount from 3000 cal/day.
That would not be an eating-disorder type plan, that would be a sensible plan for a short period of time. Still not a sensible long term plan at your age though.
And yes it is still very questionable whether you were eating enough before, either. But at least 3000 calories is much better than the 1400 you were saying was your maintenance.
I didn’t count calories at your age, so I don’t know any exact figure for my own case, but I was a skinny kid (don’t remember weight at 14 but I was 97 lb at 13 and 147 by 16) and I routinely ordered two dinners to eat at the same time. It’s normal for a teenager, particularly an active one, to put away quite a lot, which 3000 cal/day isn’t.
before dieting pre-season to get my weight down, i weighed 133 and was fairly fat with some muscle thats when i ate so much shit
How recent was this and how long did the diet take? Had you consistently been eating similarly to what got you to the “fat” level up to that point? Or was it a temporary thing?
Agreeing with Roberts…
People are jumping on you because you are young and do not have years of experience with nutrition, diet, training and LIFE. Losing 14lbs in two weeks is hurting yourself, whether you understand that or not. Restricting calories to 800 is hurting yourself, whether you realize it or not.
Again, the weight you need to lose is mostly bloat. If you agreed with this, then why restrict calories? You can restrict carbs if you must and still get in more than 800kcals.
You asked for advice and you are getting advice, and even concern. I think that is something to consider. I know you need to make weight, and I am telling you that making weight doesnt necessitate starvation.
P.S. EATING 200g of protein and NOTHING ELSE wont conserve LBM. if YOUR BODY HAS NO CALORIES it will USE THE PROTEIN CALORIES to live, i.e. that muscle you are trying to spare…goodbye.
the diet began september, and consisted of 12 egg whites 1 yolk, multivitamin, water, tuna fish sandwich on whole wheat low carb bread packed with lettuce and light mayo, chicken breast and 3 servings of broccoli. took me about 3 months to lose the weight. now im just trying to get the water and a little fat off asap…then maintain. before the diet yes i consistently ate shit food. didnt realize diet effected performance before.
Diet effects performance. For an example see me in the gym yesterday after 2 huge pieces of yule log cake the night before. Pathetic…
Well I don’t know what people suggested to you previously, but if you have the money you could invest in a quality protein supplement and maybe something like Biotest Superfood.
I don’t know how much better taking the Superfood is than eating regular fruits & vegetables in terms of ingesting less food mass to keep your weight down but still getting the high quality nutrients from fruit & vegetable, but I suspect it wouldn’t be a bad addition to any wrestlers diet that was trying to cut weight by eating less without hurting themselves too much.
[quote]Rusty Barbell wrote:
Diet effects performance. For an example see me in the gym yesterday after 2 huge pieces of yule log cake the night before. Pathetic…
Well I don’t know what people suggested to you previously, but if you have the money you could invest in a quality protein supplement and maybe something like Biotest Superfood.
I don’t know how much better taking the Superfood is than eating regular fruits & vegetables in terms of ingesting less food mass to keep your weight down but still getting the high quality nutrients from fruit & vegetable, but I suspect it wouldn’t be a bad addition to any wrestlers diet that was trying to cut weight by eating less without hurting themselves too much.[/quote]
dude, thanks for reading all the replies we gave him, but based on your photograph, your best friend is not the deadlift, but the ab-rocket and some celery
if youre going to post at the end of a long forum, please have some understanding of the current issues at hand. no?