[quote]JackedGunz wrote:
Typical meathead! Sounds really weird though. I agree with what Tatsu said, maintain your cool.[/quote]
i don’t know how typical it is…i’ve personally never seen anyone act like this.
[quote]Itchy wrote:
[quote]JackedGunz wrote:
Typical meathead! Sounds really weird though. I agree with what Tatsu said, maintain your cool.[/quote]
i don’t know how typical it is…i’ve personally never seen anyone act like this. [/quote]
Itchy, that dude’s a troll … it’s best to just look over his posts
2 words: pack heat
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Itchy wrote:
[quote]JackedGunz wrote:
Typical meathead! Sounds really weird though. I agree with what Tatsu said, maintain your cool.[/quote]
i don’t know how typical it is…i’ve personally never seen anyone act like this. [/quote]
Itchy, that dude’s a troll … it’s best to just look over his posts [/quote]
Ooooh…
Ask him if he wanted to fight or he wanted to fuck because thats the one reason why any man should be staring at another man.
if you seriously arent sure what happened i can give you an answer, at least scientifically.
i study a form of sociology that focuses on human interaction. this guy was trying to A.M.O.G. you. that is, he was trying to assert his “Alpha Male Of the Group” status OVER you. further, he was trying to tell you that he is the Alpha of the group and he was challenging you to see where your status is.
there are several things you could have done that would have made you what he considered Beta to him. Displaying Low Survival & Replication (S&R) Value (DLV) are things that will make you Beta to an Alpha Male. examples of this would include but ARE NOT limited to: averting your eyes to his gaze, letting him take control of and lead a conversational frame, not sticking to your guns on a personal opinion, and displaying his ‘high’ S&R value to others. another words being an unconfident little b!tch to him.
in my self study, there is a distinct philosophy behind AMOG tactics. some things to be aware of are:
the very fact that what he was doing bothered you means that he got a negative reaction out of you. this gave him some form of control over you. control over men (technically it would be called ‘leader of men’) is an Alpha trait.
the fact that any person reacts to an AMOG tactic shows they are Beta if it goes unchallenged. unchallenged, AMOG tactics make Beta people react and that reaction is a Display of Low S&R Value (DLV).
evolutionarily speaking, what you did was dangerous. he challenged your S&R value and status. the result was that you stared him down. if this guy is REALLY bent on AMOGing you, expect more b.s. in that gym. the reason why is because there was no clear winner to the challenge. some COULD possibly argue that because he got up you, in turn, AMOGed him. but an egostitical AMOG might not be able to let something like that go so be fully aware of that.
there are several things you can do to overcome the AMOG tactic:
spotlight the fact that he needs the validation to be an AMOG. someone that needs validation is DLVing themselves. highly confident and well socialy adjusted men do not need validation. they know who they are and that identity is strong.
like greggio said, you can imply homosexuality. homo sexuality is a DLV because its counterproductive to our purpose on earth: to Survive & Replicacte. btw oftentimes in social settings outside the gym world implying homo sexuality works very well.
next could be to remain completely unaffected by his tactics. social unaffectedness is extremely powerful. if the hottest girl in a club rejects you, you walk away smiling, then begin talking to the next hottest girl in the club, you have just demonstrated complete social unaffectedness. everyone will see that consciously or subconsciously and thus assess your S&R value as comparably high. not caring that other people reject you BECAUSE you know who you are and that identity is made of iron is one of the more powerful things in social sciences.
a direct example for this chode would be to, at the first time its required, brush him aside conversationally and/or lightly physically while saying something like, “excuse me i need those plates and youre in my way”. you told him what you wanted, what to do, you were polite (confident men are polite unless provoked) about it, and that you didnt care about what he was trying to do.
while you could simplify this whole thing as just another douche trying to slap you with some of his douche-ness id rather dig a little deeper and understand better whats going on under the surface. for more information on what i study feel free to send me a private message.
best of luck next time at your gym
Rad
Good post Rad, interesting read
You say you have done independent studies? How long have you been studying this type of behavior? What are your other insights? Have you found that this type of behavior is universal or more centrally located to one specific area? What other types of behavior have you observed? What are you other insights?
I expect a full report on my desk my Tuesday
Seriously though, very well written
was he sitting on your bar? or was he sitting on the rack that you were getting your weights from?
Honestly can’t say I’ve ever had issues like this. Sounds like a total douche though, and a simply telling him in a falsely oblivious manner “Hey man I’m using those” would’ve done the trick.
Because at that point, you’ve given him only 2 main options:
1)“Oh, ok” gets off of plates
2)“What you gonna do about it?” in which case, you’ve succesfully exposed him for the douche he is in public, and now you can present the problem to management, and everyone that witnessed the event will side with you
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Honestly can’t say I’ve ever had issues like this. Sounds like a total douche though, and a simply telling him in a falsely oblivious manner “Hey man I’m using those” would’ve done the trick.
Because at that point, you’ve given him only 2 main options:
1)“Oh, ok” gets off of plates
2)“What you gonna do about it?” in which case, you’ve succesfully exposed him for the douche he is in public, and now you can present the problem to management, and everyone that witnessed the event will side with you[/quote]
this here.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Dude, are you in the U.K or U.S.A? this guy sound s like a total king sized cock rocket. I agree with Tatsu, this guy’s ego and confidence has probably grown in tandem with his muscle mass and steroid use.
I’m guessing from your typing that your not English or American and this guy (animal hat douche bag guy) is, perhaps he is racist and was trying to intimidate you. [/quote]
The OP typed in fine english and his display pic is clearly a picture of him… He’s white. You’re clearly no detective, don’t quit your day job.
OP I also want to hear more explanation of where he was sitting… Literally on your bar?
[quote]dday wrote:
Sounds like an ass. Wait until he’s squatting and stick it in his pooper.[/quote]
I LOL’ed hard at this. [pause]
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Dang-ita-dang-ita-dang!
There is a book I have lent to an asshole in a similar situation it’s called “My secret insicurities” as I gave it to this guy trying to AMOG me I told him this should help with your problems. Of course he did try to hit me, and that’s when everyone basically booed him out of the buidling. He smelled like an ass, looked like and ass and now everyone knew exactly what he was… an ass. The point is don’t let jerks push you around, you don’t have to sink to his level to let him know how you roll… Or the next time her site on your plates just start doing kettle bell hip swings right by his head, i’m sure he’ll move.
It’s pretty obvious as what to do. just say ‘‘sorry I am using those plates’’ and he leave. If he doesnt then tell him wtf and that he should know a better gym ethic
EVERYONE WANT UPDATES! Okay lots of questions here sorry if I forget to answer some of the questions they are all really good questions.
This is how it is:
I’m a humble guy, and really don’t want trouble. Another fact of the matter is I mean I sneak into the gym as well…so it’s not like I’m payin or anything. I need that money for food, whether I will keep sneaking in, or pay for membership we’ll see. There is absolutely no way I am leaving the gym because of him.
Like I mentioned before, I’m a pretty big guy for my size, and he IS bigger than me…not really height wise…but people have been tellin me there is lots of steroids going around this gym, especially with the football team there.
Thing is there is quite a bit of smaller guys at this gym, and this guy just loved to try to put everyone down with his eyes it seemed.
More things, and once again thank you for all the responses…I’m new to the weightlifting gym and am acting as like I am presenting myself to someone for an interview.
Okay so when he sits multiple times I could feel he was trying to dominate and to show that “this is his”.
Like before the first 2 times he did it. First time was just…okay? in my mind…2nd time when I add the weights and he’s still SITTIN ON MY PLATES that are LOADED ONTO THE BAR. (to answer the questions where he was sittin and where the plates were) I think to myself, can’t believe this guy is tryin to pull somethin with me. He was doing this because 1) I was lifting more weight than him 2) my friend as well said he feels threatened by my prescence.
So I believe it to be true he felt threatened by my presence (I am new at the gym). And he tried to show me up. As well because of the intensity I was lifting with played a factor and I wasn’t like most people in that gym that are kinda taking it easy and going through the motions, more than the mindset of seek and destroy while lifting.
So the first 2 times I didn’t really do much other than smile the 2nd time, becaues I am trying to be friendly to everyone at this gym. In between resting sets I just get some water, seeing if he will get off, etc.
The 3rd time I just had enough so I didn’t keep my eyes off him, and he then looks at me…he realizes I’m not shifting my eyes, looking away, I mean I’m puttin my foot down as to say…yes I’m lookin at you, why you testing me…so he looks away, gets up, finishes his set and leaves without lookin at me again.
Hey everyone! Last post until more questions or comments lol.One thing I really don’t want these posts to sound like “you know I will do this and that” this is the internet and a lot of people will say what they don’t mean. I give this story just to see responses if anyone else has had this happen to them, as well maybe some proper gym advice because I am new to the gym.
I’ll definaetly will be going to this gym again, I’m sure I will see him there because I’m sure he is there a lot. Of course that is fine, but if he trys anything funny…or any “tests” I’m gonna have to say something. I’m just going to ask him how he is doing.
That’s probably about it.
I know most of you wouldn’t tolerate this, but to me…he is just a bodybuilder who wants to stroke his ego confidence whatever. I’ll probably make some jokes and what not and he’ll be cool with me and there won’t be any problems. I mean after it happened of course I was amped, thought about him all night and all the evil shit I can do, but I rather save those thoughts to myself before they get me in trouble 
lol.
haha and yes this is me in my avatar, actualy I’m sittin at 205lbs there…I was 220 before but cut some weight because of my boxing conditioing all that runnin made me lose some. I then had 3 months off of liftnig and am back full force now, and soon will be back 100% to my boxing, but just making sure my shoulder is 100%.
Anyways can’t wait to see the look on the bodybuilders face when I do 405x15 on squats, deep, no belt, and just serbian power!
Alright everyone, I’ll be waiting for more comments, have a good one!