^ Yep its to the point where I saw the look on his face after he was finished. He complained the whole day before he even worked out the second time. He looked like he was in pain and I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t even want to stay after to lift anymore.
He was obviously overtrained and he was even lucky that we got out for thanksgiving break but they’ll start again next week. I do my own thing since I know what I’m doing. Since football season for me is over I can start a good leg routine along with doing full squats.
Well stronghold that true. But I think he’s going too hard on them atleast this early. I was only there for part of the workout so they didn’t even do much, but it was something like 4 sets of 10 on each exercise. When I was there they did bench, shoulder press, skull crushers, curls, incline, and they’ll start doing some leg stuff next week. I tried that everyday routine once and I stayed weak throughout the whole week and each workout I went lighter and lighter on the weight because of sorness and it got me nowhere and then, I was already lifting regularly before that.
I’m not a believer in that routine and think that you need atleast a day to recover. When I went back to their upper and lower body alternate days each day I would go back stronger than the previous workout. What’s the point in lifting when you are not finished recovering from the previous workout and forced to lift light because you are sore? Crappy workouts will get you nowhere. Like I said before the coach that actually reads fitness books and knows something about weightlifting always puts us on a upper/lowerbody routine on alternate days.
Are you serious? Everday as in everyday of the week? A full body workout 7 times a week?
Holy **** I hope I’m reading that wrong. I’m not always happy with the workouts our coaches have us doing but they’re okay and I put up with them because he’s coach and they’re generally stubborn…especially football coaches. If this is as ridiculous as it sounds, you might have to talk to him about some things you’ve seen other places. Not like telling him how to do things or anything, but just asking questions and maybe show him some stuff you’ve seen. You have any good books on training?
[quote]Eielson wrote:
Are you serious? Everday as in everyday of the week? A full body workout 7 times a week?
Holy **** I hope I’m reading that wrong. I’m not always happy with the workouts our coaches have us doing but they’re okay and I put up with them because he’s coach and they’re generally stubborn…especially football coaches. If this is as ridiculous as it sounds, you might have to talk to him about some things you’ve seen other places. Not like telling him how to do things or anything, but just asking questions and maybe show him some stuff you’ve seen. You have any good books on training?[/quote]
5days a week, just the days that we are in school.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
Eielson wrote:
Are you serious? Everday as in everyday of the week? A full body workout 7 times a week?
Holy **** I hope I’m reading that wrong. I’m not always happy with the workouts our coaches have us doing but they’re okay and I put up with them because he’s coach and they’re generally stubborn…especially football coaches. If this is as ridiculous as it sounds, you might have to talk to him about some things you’ve seen other places. Not like telling him how to do things or anything, but just asking questions and maybe show him some stuff you’ve seen. You have any good books on training?
5days a week, just the days that we are in school.
I’m not doing what their doing. I’m doing upper body one day and lower body the next. Atleast until I’m out of weightlifting class which is next semester. But yes they are doing squat along with other exercises every weekday.
Your telling me they are beginners, and they are using weights so heavy that they can perform 10 quality reps one day and get weaker the next? Seriuosly doubt that. I’ve seen highschool kids. The highschool kids that are true beginners generally don’t have the coordination to use weights too heavy to go every day. At least for a few weeks or so.
Many people not strong enough to do pushups start a program where they start doing pushups everyday and build from there. They don’t get weaker or more sore after a while.
OK he has changed his routine, why I don’t know. But he has. He now does upper/lower split alternating days. I guess he saw that his way wasn’t surely going to work. They were barely able to function that second day so I guess he noticed and decided to switch it up.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
OK he has changed his routine, why I don’t know. But he has. He now does upper/lower split alternating days. I guess he saw that his way wasn’t surely going to work. They were barely able to function that second day so I guess he noticed and decided to switch it up.[/quote]
Or maybe he planned all along to have them do that work at the start to toughen them up a bit. Or maybe scare away the pansies. Teaching kids to work through pain is part of what footballs about.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Your telling me they are beginners, and they are using weights so heavy that they can perform 10 quality reps one day and get weaker the next? Seriuosly doubt that. I’ve seen highschool kids. The highschool kids that are true beginners generally don’t have the coordination to use weights too heavy to go every day. At least for a few weeks or so.
Many people not strong enough to do pushups start a program where they start doing pushups everyday and build from there. They don’t get weaker or more sore after a while.[/quote]
This is what I was thinking.
Do what your coach tells you.
I still remember the very first time I played around with my dad’s old weights in the garage. I went to town on bench press and curls (all I knew how to do!) and the next day I couldn’t move my arms. I asked my dad “Is it supposed to hurt this much?” ‘Yep.’ “Oh.”
Most important lesson of lifting for newbies in my mind is that the pain goes away quicker if you lift again after a couple days rather than trying to wait it out. No pain, no gain!