My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
Thanks DH, will try to get some more fish oil in there, but I haven’t been to costco in a while, so my supply is running low. Today I had:

eggs
whey protien ,(4X)
monterey jack cheese, (2X)
pumpkin seed kernals
cheddar cheese
big spinach salad with much olive oil (3X)
pork roast
bit of pepperoni

How does this look? I realize I’m lacking on the good meats, but I really didn’t have any time to cook today. [/quote]

This thread is one of the best ever on the forums. I think some of us should post our daily menu from time to time…kind of keep focus and maybe learn something new to eat.

Today I had:

5 eggs, 2 meatballs, 1oz feta, 2 fish oil caps
tuna, olive oil, redleaf lettuce
Low-Carb Grow! in coffee (c. 24oz)
Whey shake, 5 fish oil caps
Steak, 2c spinach, olive oil
Whey and Low-Carb Grow! shake, flaxmeal
About 3/4gallon water
3 glasses iced green tea

Thats pretty lite, but I am usually still full from the weekends on monday.

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just got my copy of the AD diet and I’m reading it now. Saw on one of the pages that it helps women with pms. My wife is ready to start training again after the birth of our son. I would like to do this with my wife. Are there any precautions you should take with this diet with a woman. thx

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[quote]milkmeasurer wrote:
just got my copy of the AD diet and I’m reading it now. Saw on one of the pages that it helps women with pms. My wife is ready to start training again after the birth of our son. I would like to do this with my wife. Are there any precautions you should take with this diet with a woman. thx[/quote]

I’d have her wait until she was no longer nursing, but otherwise no.

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Yesterday in the life of DH:

Meal 1:
5 fish caps
5 free range eggs
6 slices bacon
1/2 tomato
1/2 reg mixed w 1/2 decaf. coffee
2tbsp heavy whipping cream
2tsp splenda

Meal 2:
6oz deli roast beef
2 slices of colby jack cheese
2 pickle spears
2 tbsp cream cheese
2 sticks celery with natural PB.

*Made into meat rolls
12oz low carb chocolate milk

Meal 3:
2x 1/3lb angus beef burgers
2 slices american cheese
2 tbsp low carb ketchup
1 large salad: romaine lettuce, radishes, red onions, eggs, frozen peas, and bacon bits.
2 tbsp Ceasar dressing

Meal 4:
2 oz Milk protein/WPC mix (50/50)
3tbsp olive oil
2 slim jims
1/2 tomato

Pre/during workout. 40g of Hydrolyzed whey with a bit of whey isolate for taste (75/25) Added splenda and sugar free jello.

Post workout. 25g Hydro whey (MW 520)
5g creatine
10g of grape juice for a small kick

Meal 5:
8oz sirloin tips w/ onions & shrooms
Large salad (rest of pre made above)
Olive oil and vinegar mix for dressing.
1 cup green beans (cooked in onions and bacon pieces)

Meal 6:
1oz of Milk protein/WPC
12oz Hood LC choc. milk
4 oz cottage cheese (full fat)
5 fish caps

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Hey new AD devotees,

Check the second or so message in the thread. Don’t say you weren’t warned! Stick it out like Hoss and the guys are saying. Many people give up right here. One good thing to note is that you are on the right track. Feeling this ‘dead’ is a sign your body is fighting to adapt.

In answer to those questions about how long, how much. Basically: 30 grams for 12 days, 2 day free for all (you deserve it)then 5 days 30 grams, 1 or 2 days carb load but not such a free for all. Forget about the hype filled ‘net carb’ bs. Count whole foods as much as possible. Like the veterans have been saying this diet was conceived before the low carb fad.

A real good meat that works for me is ‘little smokies’ you know little cocktail weiners. Just microwave them and you are good to go. I’ve had good results with a full 2 day, 48 hr. carb load. Friday night to Sunday night.

When cutting for a Bodybuilding Contest I went to a 1 day load for about 5 weeks and just got ripped to the bone. You just have to try it out and even vary the carb loads from time to time. But I can’t stress enough to tough it out through the adaptation phase. I’ve seen many people give up right here.

Barry

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This is awesome. I’ll post my menu later today (when I’m done with it). :wink:

I’m waiting for the crash, sittin here on day 2 of the first 12 days. It seems everyone is getting it about day 8. I think DH mentioned this in an earlier post, but is the crash lessened in intensity if you have been rather low on carbs before the AD? Before this I was only eating carbs with my first 3 meals of the day, and always before the afternoon.

Hey Barry, where you at in Idaho man?

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I’m on day two also, so far so good. Damn I love meat and cheese! The biggest problem for me is going to be beer consumption. I generally have 3 or 4 beers on tuesdays and wednesdays due to golf league. Can anyone think of a very low carb alcoholic drink? Maybe captain and diet coke or something?

V

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Hey Charles,

I live in Roberts, Idaho. Over by Idaho Falls. I noticed you are a spud too. Where are you?

Barry

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Day 10: fuck my ass has been dragging get it Dragon…dragging since Sunday. I have to walk half a mile from the parking lot to my desk everyday and it has been kicking my ass! I love pain so I’m not complaining just preparing you poor bastards who are following this.

I had a six egg omolette today and could have slept another six hours. I’ve decided to put one pancake on the bar and do 3 sets of 10 of Squat, deadlift, bench and bent over rows for Tuesday and Thursday. This will be my recovery work until Sunday. I’ll have the carb up Friday morning through Saturday night. I’ll wake up Sunday morning have my bacon (I do love bacon) and eggs. Have a protien shake w/ flax oil an hour later and head out for some serious Strongman Training. I hope to make my partner cry by outpacing his ass for two hours.

Thank you guys for making this thread such a success and for making my diet and the others who have joined the diet an easier journey. You guys have been invaluable! I hope to be kissing your asses in 6 to 8 weeks when I’m reaping the full benefits of it! DH thanks for the sample day…helps alot!

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Hey, AD veterans, what do you think about Enova as a supplement? Maybe a spoonful or two to boost kcals? What about some of the other oils out there, coconut for example, or the wierd red one that had palm oil in it?

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[quote]mozhne wrote:
Hey Charles,

I live in Roberts, Idaho. Over by Idaho Falls. I noticed you are a spud too. Where are you?

Barry[/quote]

I’m in Boise. Just came back from Idaho Falls actually, I was there for a couple o’ days. Good to see another I-DEE-HO boy on the boards. How long have you been on the AD man?

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Hey Charles,

I bought the book from Dr. D when it first came out. Must have been 96 or so. It had a video that was sort of a question/answer with Dr. D. Still have the video somewhere. I went on the AD for about 2 years 'till '98. Since then I’ve used it usually in the spring to lose the winter gut. This year I started about March and I will likely stay on it 'till fall or maybe through the winter.

The cool thing about this diet I have found is your body adapts quickly once you cycle off and back on again. In '98 I did a Bodybuilding contest and my after contest pig out didn’t stop for several years! That’s how I came to go off and on the AD. Great thing about it: It works like a charm. Best diet ever. However my wife has tried it and followed it to the letter and it was a disaster for her. Not sure it works for women. No idea why as she is the only woman I have personally known to try the AD.

Barry

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[quote]mozhne wrote:
Hey Charles,

I bought the book from Dr. D when it first came out. Must have been 96 or so. It had a video that was sort of a question/answer with Dr. D. Still have the video somewhere. I went on the AD for about 2 years 'till '98. Since then I’ve used it usually in the spring to lose the winter gut. This year I started about March and I will likely stay on it 'till fall or maybe through the winter.

The cool thing about this diet I have found is your body adapts quickly once you cycle off and back on again. In '98 I did a Bodybuilding contest and my after contest pig out didn’t stop for several years! That’s how I came to go off and on the AD. Great thing about it: It works like a charm. Best diet ever. However my wife has tried it and followed it to the letter and it was a disaster for her. Not sure it works for women. No idea why as she is the only woman I have personally known to try the AD.

Barry[/quote]

That’s what I hear, that the body sort of becomes acclimated to using fat as an energy substrate. I remember reading somewhere on this site also about some people just being unable to oxidize the fats.

I’m quite sure, (hopeful?), that mine doesn’t work this way. I get a “charge” from eating fat and protein, don’t know why, but I’ll take it.

I plan to stay on this diet as long as I can. Give it at least a year to break it in and gain back some size. I don’t really plan on cycling off any time soon, (famous last words right?).

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I figured out the answer to the age old question…“Where’s the beef?” We’re all eating it, all of it, massive quantities of it. God, I love cows!!!

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Gents,

Fascinating thread. I have nothing but respect for DiscHoss and some of the other posters to this thread, so to see these results and the genuine excitement, it gets real contagious. I plan to start AD in early August.

My question is about which days are best for carb loading in relation to lifting. I currently use a three day a week total body workout with 10x3 on Sunday, 5x5 on Tuesday and 3x8 on Thursday. Will I get my best performance on Sunday lifts by carb loading Fri/Sat or Sat/Sun? Does it matter?

Thanks for the help.

  • reddman
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I am loving this! Day nine and yet to crash? Maybe I crashed on Friday, my workout was kind of off, but not too bad. This is today’s menu:

Meal one: six eggs, 1/4 cup of cheese, 6-8 pieces of bacon, three low carb fajitas, 5 fish oil caps, 1 table spoon of olive oil, one table spoon of flax. Btw this meal is ate at 3:00 am!

Meal two: same as above minus the fajitas.

Meal three: during training 40 grams wpi

meal four: Same as above

meal five: thirty minutes after drinking 2nd shake. three bubba burgers, three pieces of cheese (Swiss, mozzarella, and cheddar) low carb A-1, spinach salad with oil and vinegar, oinions, tomato, and more cheese:), 1 table spoon of flax, five fish oil caps

meal six: Steak, a lot of broccoli and cauliflower, two table spoons of smart balance butter, 1 table spoon of olive oil and flax oil, five fish oil caps.

Meal seven: I am about to eat 1/2 cup of full fat cottage cheese, 1/2 serving of Low-Carb grow, 8 ounces of Hood chocolate milk:) flax, fish, and olive oil.

I take one table spoon of flax and olive oil plus five fish oil caps with every meal except my two wpi shake during and post workout. I also take three table spoons of benefiber throughout the day mixed with water. I am gonna either carb up a day early(friday) or keep it to only one day this week. Will this be a problem ? I have to have x-rays on Monday morning and can’t eat anything solid after noon on Sunday:(

Joe

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[quote]Joebob wrote:
I am loving this! Day nine and yet to crash? Maybe I crashed on Friday, my workout was kind of off, but not too bad. This is today’s menu:

Meal one: six eggs, 1/4 cup of cheese, 6-8 pieces of bacon, three low carb fajitas, 5 fish oil caps, 1 table spoon of olive oil, one table spoon of flax. Btw this meal is ate at 3:00 am!

Meal two: same as above minus the fajitas.

Meal three: during training 40 grams wpi

meal four: Same as above

meal five: thirty minutes after drinking 2nd shake. three bubba burgers, three pieces of cheese (Swiss, mozzarella, and cheddar) low carb A-1, spinach salad with oil and vinegar, oinions, tomato, and more cheese:), 1 table spoon of flax, five fish oil caps

meal six: Steak, a lot of broccoli and cauliflower, two table spoons of smart balance butter, 1 table spoon of olive oil and flax oil, five fish oil caps.

Meal seven: I am about to eat 1/2 cup of full fat cottage cheese, 1/2 serving of Low-Carb grow, 8 ounces of Hood chocolate milk:) flax, fish, and olive oil.

I take one table spoon of flax and olive oil plus five fish oil caps with every meal except my two wpi shake during and post workout. I also take three table spoons of benefiber throughout the day mixed with water. I am gonna either carb up a day early(friday) or keep it to only one day this week. Will this be a problem ? I have to have x-rays on Monday morning and can’t eat anything solid after noon on Sunday:(

Joe[/quote]

Joe - maybe you won’t crash. If you didn’t eat a lot of carbs previously, then the transition period should be a lot easier on you. I didn’t crash, but I did feel like I was fighting off a cold for about three days. Some people have a harder time than other with the transition period, especially if you aren’t eating enough fat and calories.

Vegita - I drink spirits with either soda or diet coke if I have a drink mid-week.

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I’ve gotta check out these LC fajita wraps, I don’t think I’ve ever seen them before. I know I used to get this low carb fiber bread, but it was expensive, so I stopped using it.

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Here is my day two. I had to take up the calories from yesterday’s 3000 to 3500 today, and I still felt absolutely starving around 2:30 or 3:00. Tommorow I’ll take them up to 4000, but here it is anyhow:

Meal 1-7.30(all other meals are 2.5hrs after the previous meal)
4eggs, 2oz chicken breast, 1oz cheddar cheese, big cup of coffee(about 2C).

Meal 2
6 hard boiled eggs, 1oz cheddar cheese

Meal 3
5oz chicken breast, 3oz raw spinach, 2T olive oil

Meal 4
3/4C raw pumpkin seed kernals, 2oz chicken breast

Meal 5
1.5oz raw walnuts, 5oz yellow bell pepper, 10 fish oil tabs, 1 scoop of wpi

Meal 6
9oz Pork Roast, 3oz Spinach, 1T olive oil, 10 fish oil tabs

that’s it for today.

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This is an awesome thread and I just wanted to give it a bump.